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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 15 2012 17:04 GMT
#581
On February 16 2012 01:53 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 01:47 Shikyo wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:39 Shikyo wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:20 Two_DoWn wrote:
Well, its sort of like mundo going where he pleases. Only your a bear who doesnt care. Or a bur who doesnt cur. Hard to write, easy to say.

And it was a normal, which I feel is for helping people. Even if im vs them.

That's another of those saintvicious thingies isn't it? >_> For some reason I don't find that one funny at all. Oh but it's true that volibear should gank as he's imba at it

TOO actually

Really? O_O I've heard SV say that like 20 times, my bad ><

Ya too started it by jungling bear and going around saying "im a bear"


I used to shout "HI IM A TREE" whenever I killed someone as Maokai. Then he got popular. =(
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 17:08:29
February 15 2012 17:07 GMT
#582
I believe Saint is the "i'ma a dragon!" while TOO is the "IMA ABuR"

though at this point I believe they both toss the phrases around.

I myself also yelled out "I'ma a tree I don't care!" when ganking and starting fights.

-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
jadoth
Profile Joined December 2011
694 Posts
February 15 2012 17:14 GMT
#583
On February 16 2012 00:48 ManyCookies wrote:
Now here's a funner task; what's the highest possible expected (factoring in crit chance) DPS over the interval of, say 5 seconds, on a 100/100 Resistances 2.5k health target from a single champion? Bonus points for general solutions for any Resistance and Health values.


nasus, sion and vieg can theoretically get infinite damage.
Fts
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden369 Posts
February 15 2012 17:14 GMT
#584
On February 16 2012 01:25 Attakijing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 01:16 Fts wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:12 unichan wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:06 Attakijing wrote:
after reading the infographic i am never doing the tribunal. i would apparently have to vote about a thousand times to buy an armored bear.

not really relevant but recently i've been reporting everyone post game i didn't queue up with, it's a lot of fun


Sry but I cant see the fun part in your statement. (unless everyone you actually report is a twat, and that happens to actually be the ones you dont queue up with).
Wow are you misogynist or something? fuck off troll. unichan is a girl so she can do whatever she wants


Well done! We dont need feminism any more, because you just solved it!


Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 15 2012 17:17 GMT
#585
I just remember stating "Tree > Rock" at the start of a game where I jungled Maokai with enemy top being Malphite. He did better than me in the end, tho.

As for the "normals are for learning" thingy, I've always been insulted or looked at funny when I offered to give some tips to someone who failed, or didn't do particularly bad but had some gaping flaws. A friend made fun of me for no being really diplomatic, but I don't offer anymore either way.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
February 15 2012 17:21 GMT
#586
On February 16 2012 02:14 jadoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 00:48 ManyCookies wrote:
Now here's a funner task; what's the highest possible expected (factoring in crit chance) DPS over the interval of, say 5 seconds, on a 100/100 Resistances 2.5k health target from a single champion? Bonus points for general solutions for any Resistance and Health values.


nasus, sion and vieg can theoretically get infinite damage.


sion can get infinite health not damage
NoobieOne
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1183 Posts
February 15 2012 17:23 GMT
#587
On February 16 2012 02:21 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 02:14 jadoth wrote:
On February 16 2012 00:48 ManyCookies wrote:
Now here's a funner task; what's the highest possible expected (factoring in crit chance) DPS over the interval of, say 5 seconds, on a 100/100 Resistances 2.5k health target from a single champion? Bonus points for general solutions for any Resistance and Health values.


nasus, sion and vieg can theoretically get infinite damage.


sion can get infinite health not damage


Atmas Impaler translates that to damage
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 15 2012 17:23 GMT
#588
On February 16 2012 02:21 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 02:14 jadoth wrote:
On February 16 2012 00:48 ManyCookies wrote:
Now here's a funner task; what's the highest possible expected (factoring in crit chance) DPS over the interval of, say 5 seconds, on a 100/100 Resistances 2.5k health target from a single champion? Bonus points for general solutions for any Resistance and Health values.


nasus, sion and vieg can theoretically get infinite damage.


sion can get infinite health not damage


atma's says otherwise.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
February 15 2012 17:38 GMT
#589
So, now that I'm about to hit 30 and venture into ranked games, I was hoping I could get some tips from some pro TLers.

A couple of questions I'm curious about are:
1. How do you deal with jungle Shaco? This asshole always tends to ruin my fun when I'm wrecking people mid. I tend to keep a ward up on at least one side-brush at all times, but otherwise I have to tower-hug since he gets so fed from the other lanes/our jungler.

2. Assuming I'm dominating my mid lane(I'd probably get smashed by you guys, but I'd say I can beat the opposing mid 80% of the time unless I get ganked or straight outplayed), what could I do to improve our chances of winning? Keep farming? Gank nonstop? Sometimes I feel like when I go to gank, my team backs off or the other team is warded and I wasted time.

3. Who is an effective jungler to add to my list? Currently I play Rammus(always banned though apparently), Trundle(usually do great or horrible with him), Yi, and learning Lee Sin.

4. How do you prevent yourself from getting frustrated by moronic/troll teammates when your team should be winning, but are now losing because they throw the game? It gets annoying by the 3rd game it happens in normals, so I imagine in ranked it'd be even more frustrating.

5. What's considered a good ELO to sit at? In HoN I sat around 1650-1700, which was decent IMO. Trying to get to a similar or higher skill level than that.

6. And lastly, do you setup an AP Carry as a squishy, glass cannon? Or some build for some tankiness as well?

Thanks in advance for any replies <3
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 15 2012 17:41 GMT
#590
On February 16 2012 02:38 Mondeezy wrote:
So, now that I'm about to hit 30 and venture into ranked games, I was hoping I could get some tips from some pro TLers.

A couple of questions I'm curious about are:
1. How do you deal with jungle Shaco? This asshole always tends to ruin my fun when I'm wrecking people mid. I tend to keep a ward up on at least one side-brush at all times, but otherwise I have to tower-hug since he gets so fed from the other lanes/our jungler.

2. Assuming I'm dominating my mid lane(I'd probably get smashed by you guys, but I'd say I can beat the opposing mid 80% of the time unless I get ganked or straight outplayed), what could I do to improve our chances of winning? Keep farming? Gank nonstop? Sometimes I feel like when I go to gank, my team backs off or the other team is warded and I wasted time.

3. Who is an effective jungler to add to my list? Currently I play Rammus(always banned though apparently), Trundle(usually do great or horrible with him), Yi, and learning Lee Sin.

4. How do you prevent yourself from getting frustrated by moronic/troll teammates when your team should be winning, but are now losing because they throw the game? It gets annoying by the 3rd game it happens in normals, so I imagine in ranked it'd be even more frustrating.

5. What's considered a good ELO to sit at? In HoN I sat around 1650-1700, which was decent IMO. Trying to get to a similar or higher skill level than that.

6. And lastly, do you setup an AP Carry as a squishy, glass cannon? Or some build for some tankiness as well?

Thanks in advance for any replies <3

1 - moar wards and very careful the first 10 minutes
2 - either push to their tower and gank other lanes/counter jungle or kill them under their tower after harassing
3 - YOU CAN'T MILK THOSE. #1 solo queue jungler
4 - /ignore all, and follow them around if they derp. They can't read your mind.
5 - 1k4 is the mid range I'd say
6 - depends
The legend of Darien lives on
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
February 15 2012 17:46 GMT
#591
On February 16 2012 01:47 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 01:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:39 Shikyo wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:20 Two_DoWn wrote:
Well, its sort of like mundo going where he pleases. Only your a bear who doesnt care. Or a bur who doesnt cur. Hard to write, easy to say.

And it was a normal, which I feel is for helping people. Even if im vs them.

That's another of those saintvicious thingies isn't it? >_> For some reason I don't find that one funny at all. Oh but it's true that volibear should gank as he's imba at it

TOO actually

Really? O_O I've heard SV say that like 20 times, my bad ><


But it's not funny cause SV said it, AMIRIGHT!?
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
February 15 2012 17:49 GMT
#592
On February 16 2012 00:26 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
It's k. Make a self-serving thread about "Tech Support" or something lame like that and you can get your own sticked thread you can shamelessly bump every day at the top of the subforum!

Just my $0.02 on the Tribunal issue. The Wrenchies had a long discussion about this not too long ago. I'm not allowed to reveal what was said. However, I just want to assure you all that there are appropriate safeguards in place to ensure the Tribunal is working properly. Several Rioters are pretty much tasked with nothing but Tribunal Audit and ensuring everything is working properly (RiotPi is one of them, for instance). More improvements are being planned, especially with regards to the Tribunal heuristics.

Personally I think the Tribunal is a decent system but I'd argue that most of the statistics you describe in this infographic are undesired. For example, 76% of report-ees being on the losing team is probably not a situation you want to happen because it suggests that people are being reported just because they lost the game. I think most ban-able behavior is present regardless of whether you won or lost a game. Similarly, 94% of people reported to the Tribunal being punished seems extraordinarily high.
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
February 15 2012 17:50 GMT
#593
On February 15 2012 23:30 Two_DoWn wrote:
So cuz im bored at work, here is T_D's list of the 3 best jungles that you can win with by just being smarter than the enemy team:

1- shyv: farm/get ahead, win game.
2- gp: dito
3- shaco: kill idiots, backdoor, kill more idiots.

I just want to say that I bought Shyvana yesterday and played her for the first time in ranked and OH MY GOD does she clear camps quickly. It was honestly laughable how easily I could steal enemy buffs. I suddenly realize why all these terrible Shyvs in ranked spend all their time running around in my jungle trying to take shit.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9756 Posts
February 15 2012 17:51 GMT
#594
On February 16 2012 02:38 Mondeezy wrote:
So, now that I'm about to hit 30 and venture into ranked games, I was hoping I could get some tips from some pro TLers.

A couple of questions I'm curious about are:
1. How do you deal with jungle Shaco? This asshole always tends to ruin my fun when I'm wrecking people mid. I tend to keep a ward up on at least one side-brush at all times, but otherwise I have to tower-hug since he gets so fed from the other lanes/our jungler.

2. Assuming I'm dominating my mid lane(I'd probably get smashed by you guys, but I'd say I can beat the opposing mid 80% of the time unless I get ganked or straight outplayed), what could I do to improve our chances of winning? Keep farming? Gank nonstop? Sometimes I feel like when I go to gank, my team backs off or the other team is warded and I wasted time.

3. Who is an effective jungler to add to my list? Currently I play Rammus(always banned though apparently), Trundle(usually do great or horrible with him), Yi, and learning Lee Sin.

4. How do you prevent yourself from getting frustrated by moronic/troll teammates when your team should be winning, but are now losing because they throw the game? It gets annoying by the 3rd game it happens in normals, so I imagine in ranked it'd be even more frustrating.

5. What's considered a good ELO to sit at? In HoN I sat around 1650-1700, which was decent IMO. Trying to get to a similar or higher skill level than that.

6. And lastly, do you setup an AP Carry as a squishy, glass cannon? Or some build for some tankiness as well?

Thanks in advance for any replies <3

1) Ban him
2) Push your lane then roam, rinse & repeat
3) Skarner super faceroll soloqueue jungler
4) It's like in starcraft, you lose enough ladder points/whatever sc2 uses after a while to random stuff that you stop caring.
5) Honestly if you're 1250+ you're decent. If you want to be good then it's more like gold+ (1500s~). But even at gold there are a lot of baddies so even then I'm not sure
6) Kind of a really vague question since we don't know what champion you're talking about. Or you could pick ryze and not have to ask it.
boomer hands
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
February 15 2012 18:04 GMT
#595
TSM scimming CLGeu right about now.

Hopefully this time they don't argue about winning lol
Go go Alliance.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 15 2012 18:09 GMT
#596
On February 16 2012 02:50 arnath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 23:30 Two_DoWn wrote:
So cuz im bored at work, here is T_D's list of the 3 best jungles that you can win with by just being smarter than the enemy team:

1- shyv: farm/get ahead, win game.
2- gp: dito
3- shaco: kill idiots, backdoor, kill more idiots.

I just want to say that I bought Shyvana yesterday and played her for the first time in ranked and OH MY GOD does she clear camps quickly. It was honestly laughable how easily I could steal enemy buffs. I suddenly realize why all these terrible Shyvs in ranked spend all their time running around in my jungle trying to take shit.

It's honestly even worse when they lane. Suddenly your top calls Shyv mia and half of your jungle is just missing. And she does it well too, since she can push to the tower like no one's business and then just zoom zoom away.
It's your boy Guzma!
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 18:10:33
February 15 2012 18:10 GMT
#597
On February 16 2012 02:49 arnath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 00:26 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
It's k. Make a self-serving thread about "Tech Support" or something lame like that and you can get your own sticked thread you can shamelessly bump every day at the top of the subforum!

Just my $0.02 on the Tribunal issue. The Wrenchies had a long discussion about this not too long ago. I'm not allowed to reveal what was said. However, I just want to assure you all that there are appropriate safeguards in place to ensure the Tribunal is working properly. Several Rioters are pretty much tasked with nothing but Tribunal Audit and ensuring everything is working properly (RiotPi is one of them, for instance). More improvements are being planned, especially with regards to the Tribunal heuristics.

Personally I think the Tribunal is a decent system but I'd argue that most of the statistics you describe in this infographic are undesired. For example, 76% of report-ees being on the losing team is probably not a situation you want to happen because it suggests that people are being reported just because they lost the game. I think most ban-able behavior is present regardless of whether you won or lost a game. Similarly, 94% of people reported to the Tribunal being punished seems extraordinarily high.


i havnt used tribunal recently, but did when it came out, but 94% doesn't seem like a big deal to me since every person I got had 8+ games where a bunch of ppl report them in recent history, so it's not like every report makes it to tribunal (as far as I kno), so chances are, most of those ppl deserve punishment.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
February 15 2012 18:20 GMT
#598
On February 16 2012 02:38 Mondeezy wrote:
4. How do you prevent yourself from getting frustrated by moronic/troll teammates when your team should be winning, but are now losing because they throw the game? It gets annoying by the 3rd game it happens in normals, so I imagine in ranked it'd be even more frustrating.

I wanted to comment on this specifically because other people have already answered your other questions. It's hard to get into this mindset but I think the best way to approach solo queue (an idea I borrowed from Utahime) is to make your objective to play well and get better, not to win the game. A lot of the time, whether or not your team wins the game is out of your control so trying really hard to win the game and then losing because your teammates did something stupid will make you really frustrated and eventually lead to you going on tilt. On the other hand, if you can keep calm and just focus on your own play, you can be satisfied even in losing games and will often end up winning just because you're playing well.
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
February 15 2012 18:24 GMT
#599
On February 16 2012 03:10 barbsq wrote:
i havnt used tribunal recently, but did when it came out, but 94% doesn't seem like a big deal to me since every person I got had 8+ games where a bunch of ppl report them in recent history, so it's not like every report makes it to tribunal (as far as I kno), so chances are, most of those ppl deserve punishment.

Most of the recent tribunal cases I've looked at (say 95% of the last 30 or so) have been situations where a person has 3-5 games worth of "verbal abuse" or "intentional feeding". I'd say 60-70% of these are obvious offenders and I punish easily.

However, the rest are cases where, for example, a player gets reported for verbal abuse for some minor swearing in a game where their KDA is really good and the rest of their team is "verbally abusing" the report-ee just as much. Or, worse yet, it's an intentional feeding report where the person went 3-5 and looks like they're actually trying. I don't see either of these as punish-worthy cases. It might just be coincidence that I've seen a lot of stuff like this but 94% still sounds high.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 15 2012 18:27 GMT
#600
On February 16 2012 02:46 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 01:47 Shikyo wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:39 Shikyo wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:20 Two_DoWn wrote:
Well, its sort of like mundo going where he pleases. Only your a bear who doesnt care. Or a bur who doesnt cur. Hard to write, easy to say.

And it was a normal, which I feel is for helping people. Even if im vs them.

That's another of those saintvicious thingies isn't it? >_> For some reason I don't find that one funny at all. Oh but it's true that volibear should gank as he's imba at it

TOO actually

Really? O_O I've heard SV say that like 20 times, my bad ><


But it's not funny cause SV said it, AMIRIGHT!?

TOO actually has probably even more unfunny phrases <_< "Oh my gawd, man" is so incredibly unfunny and he repeats it a thousand times. Okay it's TRM's but yeah, and there's some other bad ones.

Also I don't necessarily mean it as an insult like that, I enjoy watching the streams because of the terrible jokes / bad phrases
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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