EPT[Patch 1.0.0.134: Nautilus] General Discussion - Page 28
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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content. Thanks. Happy Gaming. | ||
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ManyCookies
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Juicyfruit
Canada5484 Posts
On February 15 2012 22:08 jcarlsoniv wrote: I'm kinda with you there. I can get pretty mean, but it's never unwarranted. I have yet to be banned or ever receive a warning. I think, as a whole, the system works. Sure, there might be some glitches or outliers, but for that vast majority, it seems relatively successful. It doesn't work at all. I report Soniv after every game and he still hasn't been banned. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 16 2012 00:05 r.Evo wrote: You really want a theoryrcraft thread named after you, do you? =/ It turns out I was wrong, but not by that much! 117 AD at lvl 18. Then imagine 4 Bloodthirsters and a 20 stack SOTO an Infinity Edge! That's like 710 damage along with that one mastery. Then add Janna shield 50, Sona aura 20, Gangplank E 23, and Taric ulti 35, and you get a total of 838 damage from just that! Then of course add 40 from Baron Nashor buff and 5 from Ignite being on cooldown, 8 from Aegis of the Legion, and 10 from Elixir of Fortitude, and you get 901 damage! Then with E active that means your damage is going to be 1261, right? And then with Infinity Edge you'll have 305% crit dmg which means that you will deal 3846 damage with a crit! Imagine in a teamfight flashing to their carry and slapping them in the face with that huge palm! Oh wait I forgot the new AD per level mastery and some others as well, I need to redo the calculations. So you'll have 901 + 9 = 910 and then Havoc increases the damage you deal by l.5% and then Executioner increases it by 6%, so then... 1274 * 3,05 * 1,015 * 1,06 = 4181 So after someone hits a low armored target 3 times with Black Cleaver making their armor into 0 and then they are below 40% hp and then you crit, you can deal 4181 damage in a single hit with Malphite! | ||
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On February 16 2012 00:16 ManyCookies wrote: Lucky bastard gets all the threads named after him. It's k. Make a self-serving thread about "Tech Support" or something lame like that and you can get your own sticked thread you can shamelessly bump every day at the top of the subforum!  Just my $0.02 on the Tribunal issue. The Wrenchies had a long discussion about this not too long ago. I'm not allowed to reveal what was said. However, I just want to assure you all that there are appropriate safeguards in place to ensure the Tribunal is working properly. Several Rioters are pretty much tasked with nothing but Tribunal Audit and ensuring everything is working properly (RiotPi is one of them, for instance). More improvements are being planned, especially with regards to the Tribunal heuristics. Also, or those that missed this, here is an infographic about the Tribunal and its effect on LoL. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/GVOE0.jpg) EDIT: Re AD Malph. The problem with Bruisers is two-fold. Thanks to the massive prevalence of slows in the game, bruisers/fighters require both tools to break through a tank line to engage upon squishies in the back line as well as a way to make themselves stick to their targets once they get there. This entire process can be rather long, especially if teams are trading pokes and dancing around before a successful initiate can occur, such as at Baron Pit fights. This means that by necessity fighters/bruisers have to be tanky. This creates the unfortunate problem where to be a threat they have to do a lot of damage, but to get there they have to be super tanky. Shyvana, Irelia, Riven and Udyr are all cases where the the combination of blinks/threat/CC/dash/tankiness create inherent balancing issues. Because the power level of fighters go up to fight the squishy backline, you also get the backline being given more tools for peel or kiting. This then means the bruisers need more kit and then you end up with Riven who scales completely off AD and gets survivability and mobility. It's a complete clusterf&*#. But anyway, going pure AD doesn't work if you die straight away. That's what I wanted to say. And how are you going to farm 4 BTs, an IE and a fully stacked Occult with no boots and not die. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
Hah! You just got out theorycrafted. EDIT: Whoops, didn't account for base damage, which doesn't scale with her passive. Ok, taking into the new mastery and Havoc/Executioner, Riven has 1173 effective base damage with her ultimate, plus 111 naturally from base. Crit for 3580, passive does 652 damage. So 4232 damage per charged swing that crits. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On February 16 2012 00:30 Shikyo wrote: Doesn't "94% of players who receive enough votes to get to tribunal are punished by their peers" kind of validify my point? Not all reports end up in the Tribunal. There are filtering heuristics in place. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 16 2012 00:32 ManyCookies wrote: Riven has 1082 Attack Damage with same configuration her ultimate up. Crit for 3300, passive gives you 664 extra damage. So 3944 damage. Per swing. Hah! You just got out theorycrafted. Using Riven passive is kind of like cheating though as it doesn't really crit, that's like getting 5000 stacks on Nasus Q etc. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
I did nothing but die a few times too much in lane when i restarted with LoL 1 month ago and get reported by trolls abusing the tribunal. example: http://i44.tinypic.com/53u7n7.png http://i40.tinypic.com/23wr0wo.png i dont know how people get the 99% punish rate as proof that tribunal works. Its also stupid to release that number, now you can press punish every time and you know you will get IP in 99% of all cases. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On February 15 2012 23:48 Parnage wrote: 1. Used to be Udyr. 2. Used to be Warwick(I hear he's making a comeback) 3. Yeah pretty much always been the idiotslayer of the league. I really wish I could play him. I should practice it. Note: All of the champions the awesome T_D has listed are indeed amazingly awesome for the purpose. Also yay I am slowly crawling back into league after too much time with life and playing secret police in a galaxy far far away. Fix'd. It's damn near impossible to get a game where shaco isn't banned in draft pick. @Lanague: And that's why pre/postgame chat should be included in tribunal cases. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On February 15 2012 21:43 mr_tolkien wrote: A bit like AD Tristana, look, she has no AD scaling at all ! Malphite has AoE scaled on AD anyway and a PERCENTAGE AD BOOST, so why not build him AD with atmogs ? How is that a troll build ? WHO THE FUCK DECIDES THAT. just pointing this out, but this is just false. She has no direct scaling with AD, but she has a 90% attackspeed steroid, and attackspeed happens to scale very well with AD. edit: primarily pointing it out because this isn't the first time i've seen ppl go to tristana as a champ without AD scaling to justify AD on other champs without AD ratios. | ||
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Crownlol
United States3726 Posts
Ran into a troll the other night who was obviously ghosting with 3 members of the opposing team, and lol'ing about it. We reported them all, hopefully they'll be banned, but it completely ruined the game. I have no idea how they pulled off the queue, either a 3rd party program or just spam queuing (3 in party one out)and dropping. | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
On February 16 2012 00:35 Shikyo wrote: Using Riven passive is kind of like cheating though as it doesn't really crit, that's like getting 5000 stacks on Nasus Q etc. Nasus' Q can be arbitrarily large. Riven's power level is bounded by attack damage. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On February 16 2012 00:43 ManyCookies wrote: Nasus' Q can be arbitrarily large. Riven's power level is bounded by attack damage. Yeah I guess that's true | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On February 16 2012 00:36 LaNague wrote: well, i got a waring last night. I did nothing but die a few times too much in lane when i restarted with LoL 1 month ago and get reported by trolls abusing the tribunal. example: http://i44.tinypic.com/53u7n7.png http://i40.tinypic.com/23wr0wo.png i dont know how people get the 99% punish rate as proof that tribunal works. Its also stupid to release that number, now you can press punish every time and you know you will get IP in 99% of all cases. You can report them and include the screenshot in the report text. | ||
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ManyCookies
1164 Posts
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Slayer91
Ireland23461 Posts
On February 16 2012 00:01 Shikyo wrote: By the way did you know that Malphite can crit for over 4000 damage with his E active and with every buff available on him(I can't even remember which ones, I think Janna and Sona and Gangplank and something else)? Imagine him just walking up to the enemy carry and killing them in one hit! 1: Malphite DOES NOT have an attack speed steriod. His Q drains movement speed, his E just reduces it. 2: Vayne has a large attack speed steriod and is better than AD malphite by far if you count her W Also, did you know nasus can one shot anybody in the game if he builds 5 infinity edges and a last whisper and has +1000 on Q? Also, imagine a champion that could instaly kill the enemy carry from long range! That would be sick, and imagine that champion could do that with reasonable items. That would be sick. Oh wait, that's every single AP carry in the game. Percentage AD boost is only really good at very large values of AD, unfortunately melees generally can't afford to build that much AD and especially someone like malphite who isn't naturally very tanky or very mobile. The whole discussion is rather stupid. If you want to try to get away with stacking AD and getting percentage AD boost on a melee play riven. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On February 16 2012 00:48 ManyCookies wrote: Now here's a funner task; what's the highest possible expected (factoring in crit chance) DPS over the interval of, say 5 seconds, on a 100/100 Resistances 2.5k health target from a single champion? Bonus points for general solutions for any Resistance and Health values. Full items Kog would most likely kill said target in less than those 5 seconds. | ||
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