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Same rules apply, per usual. Please use the appropriate threads (QQ, Brag, Champion, etc) whenever appropriate. Keep the resident Banling content.

Thanks. Happy Gaming.
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
February 15 2012 16:06 GMT
#561
after reading the infographic i am never doing the tribunal. i would apparently have to vote about a thousand times to buy an armored bear.
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
February 15 2012 16:12 GMT
#562
On February 16 2012 01:06 Attakijing wrote:
after reading the infographic i am never doing the tribunal. i would apparently have to vote about a thousand times to buy an armored bear.

not really relevant but recently i've been reporting everyone post game i didn't queue up with, it's a lot of fun
:)
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 15 2012 16:13 GMT
#563
Btw, nothing is more painful than someone playing a champ wrong. I was junle olaf vs a jungle bur who didnt gank till 7 and still got outfarmed by me, and by then I had a kill and assist. At one point I just wanted to have a pause button so I could teach him how to propperly be a bur who doesnt cur.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 15 2012 16:13 GMT
#564
A what?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23461 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 16:17:09
February 15 2012 16:15 GMT
#565
Don't hate man, maybe he tried to camp a brush and things didn't work out. Honestly I have no idea why you'd care if someone is playing bad. It's like, collect free elo let him figure it out for himself. There's enough bad players you should be desensitised to this. He probably doesn't even play jungle 95% of his games or something and got lost at red buff.
aka Teutonica
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
February 15 2012 16:16 GMT
#566
On February 16 2012 00:50 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 00:01 Shikyo wrote:
On February 15 2012 23:55 Slayer91 wrote:
On February 15 2012 21:43 mr_tolkien wrote:
On February 15 2012 21:41 Craton wrote:
Conversely, AD Malphite is a troll build

A bit like AD Tristana, look, she has no AD scaling at all !

Malphite has AoE scaled on AD anyway and a PERCENTAGE AD BOOST, so why not build him AD with atmogs ? How is that a troll build ? WHO THE FUCK DECIDES THAT.


Malphite is melee. Once you're chained down with that fact you have to have a certain skillset that lets you auto hit a lot. Malphite doesn't really have that. He has his Q but his ad steriods compared to similar melee is pathetic. Pheonix udyr, effective 95 ad steriod, and 30% attack speed, (also better aoe) and better at sticking to people and more naturally tanky. Blows malphites scaling out of the water. Better build him tank/spell pen/ap/whatever.

AoE AD scaling on bruisers is bad, because it's insignificant in AoE situations since the guys clumping up that much are mostly bruisers who don't feel it.

By the way did you know that Malphite can crit for over 4000 damage with his E active and with every buff available on him(I can't even remember which ones, I think Janna and Sona and Gangplank and something else)? Imagine him just walking up to the enemy carry and killing them in one hit!


1: Malphite DOES NOT have an attack speed steriod. His Q drains movement speed, his E just reduces it.
2: Vayne has a large attack speed steriod and is better than AD malphite by far if you count her W

Also, did you know nasus can one shot anybody in the game if he builds 5 infinity edges and a last whisper and has +1000 on Q?

Also, imagine a champion that could instaly kill the enemy carry from long range! That would be sick, and imagine that champion could do that with reasonable items. That would be sick. Oh wait, that's every single AP carry in the game.

Percentage AD boost is only really good at very large values of AD, unfortunately melees generally can't afford to build that much AD and especially someone like malphite who isn't naturally very tanky or very mobile. The whole discussion is rather stupid. If you want to try to get away with stacking AD and getting percentage AD boost on a melee play riven.


I think riven and trynd are perhaps the only ad based melee champions that get away with alot of offensive items.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Fts
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden369 Posts
February 15 2012 16:16 GMT
#567
On February 16 2012 01:12 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 01:06 Attakijing wrote:
after reading the infographic i am never doing the tribunal. i would apparently have to vote about a thousand times to buy an armored bear.

not really relevant but recently i've been reporting everyone post game i didn't queue up with, it's a lot of fun


Sry but I cant see the fun part in your statement. (unless everyone you actually report is a twat, and that happens to actually be the ones you dont queue up with).
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 16:22:08
February 15 2012 16:20 GMT
#568
Well, its sort of like mundo going where he pleases. Only your a bear who doesnt care. Or a bur who doesnt cur. Hard to write, easy to say.

And it was a normal, which I feel is for helping people. Even if im vs them.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 16:21:18
February 15 2012 16:20 GMT
#569
On February 16 2012 01:16 Fts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 01:12 unichan wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:06 Attakijing wrote:
after reading the infographic i am never doing the tribunal. i would apparently have to vote about a thousand times to buy an armored bear.

not really relevant but recently i've been reporting everyone post game i didn't queue up with, it's a lot of fun


Sry but I cant see the fun part in your statement. (unless everyone you actually report is a twat, and that happens to actually be the ones you dont queue up with).

The system will basically throw out the reports from people who spam them, so it don't matter either way.
twitch.tv/cratonz
lurked
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada918 Posts
February 15 2012 16:22 GMT
#570
On February 16 2012 01:12 unichan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 01:06 Attakijing wrote:
after reading the infographic i am never doing the tribunal. i would apparently have to vote about a thousand times to buy an armored bear.

not really relevant but recently i've been reporting everyone post game i didn't queue up with, it's a lot of fun

Way to improve the community, and the Tribunal system.

Thanks for your involvement in the process.
Magic is "just" magic until I get my hands on the source code.
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
February 15 2012 16:25 GMT
#571
On February 16 2012 01:16 Fts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 01:12 unichan wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:06 Attakijing wrote:
after reading the infographic i am never doing the tribunal. i would apparently have to vote about a thousand times to buy an armored bear.

not really relevant but recently i've been reporting everyone post game i didn't queue up with, it's a lot of fun


Sry but I cant see the fun part in your statement. (unless everyone you actually report is a twat, and that happens to actually be the ones you dont queue up with).
Wow are you misogynist or something? fuck off troll. unichan is a girl so she can do whatever she wants

User was warned for this post
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
February 15 2012 16:27 GMT
#572
On February 16 2012 01:25 Attakijing wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 01:16 Fts wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:12 unichan wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:06 Attakijing wrote:
after reading the infographic i am never doing the tribunal. i would apparently have to vote about a thousand times to buy an armored bear.

not really relevant but recently i've been reporting everyone post game i didn't queue up with, it's a lot of fun


Sry but I cant see the fun part in your statement. (unless everyone you actually report is a twat, and that happens to actually be the ones you dont queue up with).
Wow are you misogynist or something? fuck off troll. unichan is a girl so she can do whatever she wants


How do their statements have anything to do with their gender?...
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
February 15 2012 16:29 GMT
#573
We should all report unichan with an image of that quote just for this "fun".
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 15 2012 16:39 GMT
#574
On February 16 2012 01:20 Two_DoWn wrote:
Well, its sort of like mundo going where he pleases. Only your a bear who doesnt care. Or a bur who doesnt cur. Hard to write, easy to say.

And it was a normal, which I feel is for helping people. Even if im vs them.

That's another of those saintvicious thingies isn't it? >_> For some reason I don't find that one funny at all. Oh but it's true that volibear should gank as he's imba at it
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23461 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 16:42:07
February 15 2012 16:41 GMT
#575
On February 16 2012 01:20 Two_DoWn wrote:
Well, its sort of like mundo going where he pleases. Only your a bear who doesnt care. Or a bur who doesnt cur. Hard to write, easy to say.

And it was a normal, which I feel is for helping people. Even if im vs them.


But are you talking about udyr or volibear?

On February 16 2012 01:29 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
We should all report unichan with an image of that quote just for this "fun".


Do those quotation marks imply that you have..

Oh, forget, it, it's just too easy/
aka Teutonica
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 16:56:48
February 15 2012 16:45 GMT
#576
On February 15 2012 22:21 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 22:09 turdburgler wrote:
in what way is triple vamp sceptor good? i mean its not useless, but thats not the same as good. life steal scales with time-to-die. the harder you are to kill the better. its like any other defensive stat, it scales linearly with itself and multiplicitively with others

It scales at a 1:1 ratio with your attack damage. Most of the time people build up +3-20x(or something) their base attack damage (before runes, masteries and items), but only about 12-15% lifesteal. This really hurts your survivability and dueling capabilities. Building 4 vamp scepters provides 48% lifesteal. Imagine if you're fighting against someone with 4 longswords now. Nasus at level 5 has 70 base attack damage. We'll assume two nasus's did not spec into the offence tree and don't have and AD runes. We'll ignore their passive and all their abilities and their armor.

Nasus 1 will deal 70 damage a hit and heal about 35
Nasus 2 will deal 110 damage a hit
The advantage seems to go to Nasus 2 as Nasus 1 loses 5 more hp per hit. But if you imagine the two back off for a second after a trade, Nasus 1 will bring himself back up to full off creeps, and be able to trade again vs a weakened Nasus 2.

AP Talon and 6 ninja tabi yi are troll builds. And even then, you'd have to know the yi didn't realize tabi's unique didn't stack.

I personally don't feel like the tribunal does enough. If my griefers and leavers are being banned for a week at a time, it certainly doesn't show them as having changed their behaviors.

Why get 4 longswords if you can get 4dblades? Someone with 4 dblades isn't going to die or get outfarmed by someone with 4 vamp scept. Not to mention having 4 vamp scepts makes you pretty shitty in ganks/any small skirmishes that can happen for whatever reason.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 15 2012 16:46 GMT
#577
On February 16 2012 01:39 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 01:20 Two_DoWn wrote:
Well, its sort of like mundo going where he pleases. Only your a bear who doesnt care. Or a bur who doesnt cur. Hard to write, easy to say.

And it was a normal, which I feel is for helping people. Even if im vs them.

That's another of those saintvicious thingies isn't it? >_> For some reason I don't find that one funny at all. Oh but it's true that volibear should gank as he's imba at it

TOO actually
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 15 2012 16:47 GMT
#578
On February 16 2012 01:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 01:39 Shikyo wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:20 Two_DoWn wrote:
Well, its sort of like mundo going where he pleases. Only your a bear who doesnt care. Or a bur who doesnt cur. Hard to write, easy to say.

And it was a normal, which I feel is for helping people. Even if im vs them.

That's another of those saintvicious thingies isn't it? >_> For some reason I don't find that one funny at all. Oh but it's true that volibear should gank as he's imba at it

TOO actually

Really? O_O I've heard SV say that like 20 times, my bad ><
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Hidden_MotiveS
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada2562 Posts
February 15 2012 16:49 GMT
#579
On February 16 2012 01:45 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 22:21 Hidden_MotiveS wrote:
On February 15 2012 22:09 turdburgler wrote:
in what way is triple vamp sceptor good? i mean its not useless, but thats not the same as good. life steal scales with time-to-die. the harder you are to kill the better. its like any other defensive stat, it scales linearly with itself and multiplicitively with others

It scales at a 1:1 ratio with your attack damage. Most of the time people build up +3-20x(or something) their base attack damage (before runes, masteries and items), but only about 12-15% lifesteal. This really hurts your survivability and dueling capabilities. Building 4 vamp scepters provides 48% lifesteal. Imagine if you're fighting against someone with 4 longswords now. Nasus at level 5 has 70 base attack damage. We'll assume two nasus's did not spec into the offence tree and don't have and AD runes. We'll ignore their passive and all their abilities and their armor.

Nasus 1 will deal 70 damage a hit and heal about 35
Nasus 2 will deal 110 damage a hit
The advantage seems to go to Nasus 2 as Nasus 1 loses 5 more hp per hit. But if you imagine the two back off for a second after a trade, Nasus 1 will bring himself back up to full off creeps, and be able to trade again vs a weakened Nasus 2.

AP Talon and 6 ninja tabi yi are troll builds. And even then, you'd have to know the yi didn't realize tabi's unique didn't stack.

I personally don't feel like the tribunal does enough. If my griefers and leavers are being banned for a week at a time, it certainly doesn't show them as having changed their behaviors.

Why get 4 longswords if you can get 4dblades? Someone with 4 dblades isn't going to die to someone with 4 vamp scepts.

They don't have to die. They just have to outsustain and zone. I was trying to make things simple by using longswords since Dblades also provide lifesteal. It's hard to think of a situation where someone with 4 vamp scepters can zone someone with 4 dblades but it might be possible.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 15 2012 16:53 GMT
#580
On February 16 2012 01:47 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 01:46 Two_DoWn wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:39 Shikyo wrote:
On February 16 2012 01:20 Two_DoWn wrote:
Well, its sort of like mundo going where he pleases. Only your a bear who doesnt care. Or a bur who doesnt cur. Hard to write, easy to say.

And it was a normal, which I feel is for helping people. Even if im vs them.

That's another of those saintvicious thingies isn't it? >_> For some reason I don't find that one funny at all. Oh but it's true that volibear should gank as he's imba at it

TOO actually

Really? O_O I've heard SV say that like 20 times, my bad ><

Ya too started it by jungling bear and going around saying "im a bear"
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
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