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whatwhatanut
United States195 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:07 DURRHURRDERP wrote: lol how does it put you off ranked games? those games rarely happen; you might get 6 elo duoq games once every like 50+ games (unless you play during loss forgiven times) Cause I know imma go 50-50 most the time and that means now I' down 7 elo or 8 elo for 2 games. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:01 0123456789 wrote: DEAR GOD, Please help the American kids, and their education system. It seems that we are a nation only capable of producing people with downs syndrome, and fat boys who only eat McDonalds, wear overpriced clothes, and release insane amounts of trash and CO2 into the world. what on earth are you talking about | ||
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DURRHURRDERP
Canada929 Posts
i think numbers is just suffering from a bad case of TMSQ (too much solo q) syndrome...i've been experiencing it a lot lately as well  | ||
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tyCe
Australia2542 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:49 DURRHURRDERP wrote: whatwhatanut you seriously have no clue how matchmaking works (it tries to put you into games where you are 50/50 to win) and it sounds like you're actually QQing about matchmaking in general more than the issue of +/- 6 elo instead of +/- 12 i think numbers is just suffering from a bad case of TMSQ (too much solo q) syndrome...i've been experiencing it a lot lately as well I think he's saying that precisely because of the matchmaking, i.e. winning 50/50, he's actually going to lose Elo due to the +6 when winning with the high Elo duoq and the -12 when losing usually. Of course, since it's +/- 6 Elo and +/- 12 Elo, this evens out anyway. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5713 Posts
On February 26 2012 15:01 whatwhatanut wrote: I don't know how it would be lf because there was no server issues at the time so it musta been that a high-elo duo quer. I feel like the system screws people who just want to improve their skill. Definitely needs to be some kind of kda ratio/xp or something. Cause I usually do well but I'm not quite good enuf to hard carry a team. I'm like just a guy who fits in and does his job but doesn't really shine beyond that. I agree with you man. I can carry alot of games if my team doesn't go full retard and feed every lane, but those are few and far between. Most games I do above average and win my lane, not enough to hyper carry of course all the time but just average imo. Thats why elo hell exists. If you're an average player, not feeding, not hyper-carrying, just doing your job correctly and holding your ground you will not rise in elo. You're simply in the hands of the 4 strangers on your team and hope that between them they don't collectively feed the game out of your hands. Odds are in solo Q that your team will feed and you will lose, it's simply a fact I've grown acustomed too over my 300games in ranked. Started ranked with no knowledge at lvl30, had a high of 1468 and a low of 900. I don't understand how a system can so consistently give you huge winning and losing streaks with no sign of them stopping. It's kinda like gambling, Q for ranked, hope for jackpot teamates and not dueces all around. Currently happy on a 6game win streak to put me within a win away of breaking my top rating. I have no expectations other than that my streak will end and at anytime I'll jump on a massive lose streak and tank 100-200pts in a week even if I never feed in any game. | ||
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Craton
United States17303 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On February 26 2012 16:26 Zooper31 wrote: I agree with you man. I can carry alot of games if my team doesn't go full retard and feed every lane, but those are few and far between. Most games I do above average and win my lane, not enough to hyper carry of course all the time but just average imo. Thats why elo hell exists. If you're an average player, not feeding, not hyper-carrying, just doing your job correctly and holding your ground you will not rise in elo. You're simply in the hands of the 4 strangers on your team and hope that between them they don't collectively feed the game out of your hands. Odds are in solo Q that your team will feed and you will lose, it's simply a fact I've grown acustomed too over my 300games in ranked. Started ranked with no knowledge at lvl30, had a high of 1468 and a low of 900. I don't understand how a system can so consistently give you huge winning and losing streaks with no sign of them stopping. It's kinda like gambling, Q for ranked, hope for jackpot teamates and not dueces all around. Currently happy on a 6game win streak to put me within a win away of breaking my top rating. I have no expectations other than that my streak will end and at anytime I'll jump on a massive lose streak and tank 100-200pts in a week even if I never feed in any game. Not sure why that's referred to as "elo hell" there. It's pretty much where you belong if you're playing average. Nothing exceptional but nothing too bad either. You have to realize that laddering and grinding games is more or less a game of averages. Unless you are much more exceptional than your competition where you can win lane and make plays, you're not going to consistently win enough elo to rise higher. | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
Match-making can only account for the numerical mathematical algorithms. It can't take in account when one of your teammate decides to derp/feed/disconnect, is having a bad game, feels like being a douche whatever. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
On February 26 2012 17:29 wei2coolman wrote: So I have around 4k ip saved up, should I keep saving up for Rumble? or that new champ? Wait till the new champion is released. See if you like her by watching the spotlight and all the people that will be playing her. If you do then buy her, otherwise you can always buy rumble. | ||
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rwrzr
United States1980 Posts
he's right murica needs mo math | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Being a melee carry is no longer a boy’s club I'm guessing they have short term memory on when they released riven? :O | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
On February 26 2012 16:26 Zooper31 wrote: I agree with you man. I can carry alot of games if my team doesn't go full retard and feed every lane, but those are few and far between. Most games I do above average and win my lane, not enough to hyper carry of course all the time but just average imo. Thats why elo hell exists. If you're an average player, not feeding, not hyper-carrying, just doing your job correctly and holding your ground you will not rise in elo. You're simply in the hands of the 4 strangers on your team and hope that between them they don't collectively feed the game out of your hands. Odds are in solo Q that your team will feed and you will lose, it's simply a fact I've grown acustomed too over my 300games in ranked. Started ranked with no knowledge at lvl30, had a high of 1468 and a low of 900. I don't understand how a system can so consistently give you huge winning and losing streaks with no sign of them stopping. It's kinda like gambling, Q for ranked, hope for jackpot teamates and not dueces all around. Currently happy on a 6game win streak to put me within a win away of breaking my top rating. I have no expectations other than that my streak will end and at anytime I'll jump on a massive lose streak and tank 100-200pts in a week even if I never feed in any game. If you don't hyper carry, and just hold your lane, only going a few cs above or below your opponent then yes you are at the mercy of your allies. Chances are there are inconsistent allies on your team that play a style where they are overaggressive but mechanically sound so they may win some games and carry hard and some games feed really hard. You'll also get people who engage in 3v5's under tower after going 12-1 in lane. It's not that these guys are worse than you, it's that they're just more inconsistent. Yes I do feel like games are too much of a lottery with all the random dcers and troll leavers. Elo drops and rises with your rating and it feels like you're at a roulette table hoping to win your elo back. But overall the system is fair, if as you've stated, inconsistent. | ||
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Notturno
Croatia6 Posts
On February 26 2012 17:57 wei2coolman wrote: Anyone else noticed this in the Fiora, revealed article? I'm guessing they have short term memory on when they released riven? :O She is more of a fighter/offtank foremost. Melle carries are characters like Master Yi, Tryndenmere, Gankplank and such. Well that's imo. =P | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
edit: also watching dyrus play poppy is so nice. I think she might still be my most played from S1, and there might still exist my post from the very first general discussion about whoever mentioned poppy and got me to start playing her. I've played one game with her this season, which I did poorly in but still won because my team raped. I was against panth, and because his q doing like 30 damage to me wasn't enough, he leveled E lol, which made him completely worthless in the few teamfights but he did quite a bit of damage to me in lane. I always liked poppy, hopefully I can play her again. | ||
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
On February 26 2012 18:24 Notturno wrote: She is more of a fighter/offtank foremost. Melle carries are characters like Master Yi, Tryndenmere, Gankplank and such. Well that's imo. =P trynd,riven and poppy are like the only melees that work with building for pure AD, oh well and panth/talon, but those are casters. | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23385 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Also I think it's silly to choose between rumble and the new champ, they are completely different. Do you even like playing Yi, Tryndamere, maybe Renekton? I think you should just go with Rumble if you like him. The new champ seems like a solo top/jungler melee fighter, and it seems like she's going to be built standard as a bruiser just like about 50 more champions. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
On February 26 2012 20:06 Shikyo wrote: Poppy clearly isn't a melee carry though, she's an assassin. Also I think it's silly to choose between rumble and the new champ, they are completely different. Do you even like playing Yi, Tryndamere, maybe Renekton? I think you should just go with Rumble if you like him. The new champ seems like a solo top/jungler melee fighter, and it seems like she's going to be built standard as a bruiser just like about 50 more champions. Yeah she's an assassin. She assassinates your whole team. Oh, this is what we call a carry :D | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23385 Posts
On February 26 2012 20:27 mr_tolkien wrote: Yeah she's an assassin. She assassinates your whole team. Oh, this is what we call a carry :D what? Poppy is good at bursting one person down. She can get more kills, but so can akali. Akali snowballs and quadras every teamfight, but she's carry and not an assassin? Bullshit. Carry = lots of damage Assassin = good at killing squishies Poppies damage isn't that great, otherwise she'd beat bruisers in 1v1's, which she doesn't. In the same way akali doesn't, unless they are fed. | ||
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