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Heed these two simple warnings. It will help make our GD a better place.

Consider this fair notice to all users. Warning will be dished out this patch.

Thanks.
Neo, 31.01.12
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 01 2012 15:58 GMT
#201
On February 02 2012 00:49 starfries wrote:
That Poppy skin is like a throwback to the days of terrible art (original Lux) and glowing eyes on everyone (Pantheon and Gangplank)

But it's 40k! She's a tiny Space Marine!

Now team her up with Prototype Viktor and fight for the Emperor.
It's your boy Guzma!
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
February 01 2012 16:00 GMT
#202
On February 02 2012 00:58 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 00:49 starfries wrote:
That Poppy skin is like a throwback to the days of terrible art (original Lux) and glowing eyes on everyone (Pantheon and Gangplank)

But it's 40k! She's a tiny Space Marine!

Now team her up with Prototype Viktor and fight for the Emperor.

ohhhhh that's what it's supposed to be, I can't believe I didn't notice
-facepalm-
DJ – do you like ramen, Savior? Savior – not really. Bisu – I eat it often. Flash – I’m a maniac! | Foxer Fighting!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 01 2012 16:02 GMT
#203
Not for their friends?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Microchaton
Profile Joined March 2011
France342 Posts
February 01 2012 16:04 GMT
#204
Absolutely irrelevant but I thought I'd share because it made my day

Drømm (4:59): My brother just made an account named seth mcfarmlane

:D
Stormy
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
February 01 2012 16:07 GMT
#205
Since Poppy has been discussed, here are the skins for Yi and Leona.




Also, could this be a little sign that the replay mode isn't all that far away?
[image loading]
currently rooting for myself.
Fts
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden369 Posts
February 01 2012 16:09 GMT
#206
On February 02 2012 00:11 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Aparently Yi is bugged, doenst show up all the times on the minimap.


This happened to me last patch too. Is it really a Yi bug?

I kept asking in chat where Yi was (he was on my team), they must have thought I was blind :|
Microchaton
Profile Joined March 2011
France342 Posts
February 01 2012 16:15 GMT
#207
Yi's hidden passive to backdoor ?
Stormy
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 16:21:50
February 01 2012 16:16 GMT
#208
On February 02 2012 01:07 Shiv. wrote:
Since Poppy has been discussed, here are the skins for Yi and Leona.




Also, could this be a little sign that the replay mode isn't all that far away?
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


DAT

LEONA

I don't even play her, but that skin man, that skin.


As I'm at work, if anyone can try out Jax with the buffs/happens plays against one, can you tell me how he looks now? the changes look great, but he was iffy to meh after the change. I think these minor tweaks will put him in a good place, especially in the jungle.
It's your boy Guzma!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
February 01 2012 16:32 GMT
#209
I wonder if Dxtory has any problems with LoL right now like LoLRecorder does.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
February 01 2012 16:40 GMT
#210
On February 01 2012 22:47 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 22:41 Noocta wrote:
On February 01 2012 16:43 forgotten0ne wrote:
Anyone else feel like Ziggs could be the most op release champ of all time? It's all going to depend on his ratios...


Not even close to possible.
If you didn't play during Xin release, you don't know what OP on release mean.

Beta TF.

When you try to squeeze a champ kit with skills scaled comparably to DotA's power level into LoL, bad things happen.


Well, beta was beta. :d
Beta jax and beta TF ain't release.

Xin was one who pass the Tets realm before going live to pentakill everyone everygame. x)
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 16:53:03
February 01 2012 16:47 GMT
#211
Wow that Leona Skin is sweet! Not sure if its better then her Valk skin tho. When will they release it?
Never Knows Best.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 01 2012 16:53 GMT
#212
On February 01 2012 21:50 Shiv. wrote:
Considering there's no Xerath thread and I'm not nearly good enough on him to warrant me starting one...
How does one build the kid? I've been doing a generic Drings->Sorc->DC build with decent success, but I was wondering how other people build him. Runes, summoners, items, basically.


21-0-9
Go heavy on the offensive with runes getting some combination of +AP and +mpen.

Skills order is QEQWQR, R>Q>W>E. You only need one point in E to set up your stuns. You want to max W second to get your long range attacks going so that you can abuse your lane fully. When you want to kill someone, your combo should be E>R>Q>R>R>Q. Fit in a W when and where appropriate. A lot of times, you won't need it except to finish someone off with a long range Q. In team fights, save the E for when someone gets close to you and focus on bombarding their ranged carry.

For items, open with boots + 3hp. Item build after is => 2 d-rings => sorc boots => death cap => void staff. You can get away with this because of your range. Afterwards, get rylai and then whatever else you want. I personally like DFG for the CDR and the active ability which helps me mow down anyone who tries to get close. Xerath is a real bitch late game because of his passive which makes him pretty tanky.


Rainmaker5
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States1027 Posts
February 01 2012 16:55 GMT
#213
Calling it right now, within a few months people will be running support Fiddlesticks. Your lane is basically ungankable and fear make jungle ganks hugely successful.
(-_(-_(-_(^_(-_(-_(-_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-)_-) CJ Fighting! "Beer -> soju -> whisky is a terrible build"~~ Scrarecrow.
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9808 Posts
February 01 2012 16:59 GMT
#214
On February 02 2012 01:55 Rainmaker5 wrote:
Calling it right now, within a few months people will be running support Fiddlesticks. Your lane is basically ungankable and fear make jungle ganks hugely successful.

I once laned against the luckiest support fiddle in the world, whose crows never did anything except bounce between me and the minion closest to me, and fear once pulled me toward tower where vayne flash condemned me to death -_-
Should have taken cleanse...
boomer hands
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 01 2012 17:15 GMT
#215
There's something I don't get: why do people get sorcs before blasting wand? Is the damage "boost" worth it, for example on champs with good base damage but lower scaling, or is it because even if it does give less damage, it brings more utility with the movespeed?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
February 01 2012 17:15 GMT
#216
On February 02 2012 01:55 Rainmaker5 wrote:
Calling it right now, within a few months people will be running support Fiddlesticks. Your lane is basically ungankable and fear make jungle ganks hugely successful.

soraka silence. what happens now? i've had them before multiple times and it never ends well.
BW -> League -> CSGO
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
February 01 2012 17:18 GMT
#217
On February 02 2012 02:15 Alaric wrote:
There's something I don't get: why do people get sorcs before blasting wand? Is the damage "boost" worth it, for example on champs with good base damage but lower scaling, or is it because even if it does give less damage, it brings more utility with the movespeed?

The movespeed early is quite huge. It allows you to gank non-warded lanes (rarely happens past 10 minutes) and escape better from ganks, as well as improving your 1v1 (more mobility = more kiting or sticking :D).
The legend of Darien lives on
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
February 01 2012 17:27 GMT
#218
On February 02 2012 02:15 wussleeQ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 01:55 Rainmaker5 wrote:
Calling it right now, within a few months people will be running support Fiddlesticks. Your lane is basically ungankable and fear make jungle ganks hugely successful.

soraka silence. what happens now? i've had them before multiple times and it never ends well.

Fiddle support is really easy to lane against. You rapidly become useless since you have almost no laning power and do little damage / die instantly with no items, ult or no ult.

Good players actually ward their side bushes and will almost always get a pink ward against lanes that will try to be super aggressive early, which is the only place Fiddle (like most gimmick supports) has a chance. Once you fail to snowball, you become useless. The AD will just take cleanse and proper warding will prevent any attempts at fiddle ulting from the side bush.
twitch.tv/cratonz
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
February 01 2012 17:36 GMT
#219
On February 02 2012 02:27 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2012 02:15 wussleeQ wrote:
On February 02 2012 01:55 Rainmaker5 wrote:
Calling it right now, within a few months people will be running support Fiddlesticks. Your lane is basically ungankable and fear make jungle ganks hugely successful.

soraka silence. what happens now? i've had them before multiple times and it never ends well.

Fiddle support is really easy to lane against. You rapidly become useless since you have almost no laning power and do little damage / die instantly with no items, ult or no ult.

Good players actually ward their side bushes and will almost always get a pink ward against lanes that will try to be super aggressive early, which is the only place Fiddle (like most gimmick supports) has a chance. Once you fail to snowball, you become useless. The AD will just take cleanse and proper warding will prevent any attempts at fiddle ulting from the side bush.

agreed. i'm fine with laning with almost any support in rankeds but i just shake my head when i get a fiddle and they say that it works. it's just too easily countered by wards and even more countered by soraka.
BW -> League -> CSGO
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 01 2012 17:49 GMT
#220
On February 02 2012 02:15 Alaric wrote:
There's something I don't get: why do people get sorcs before blasting wand? Is the damage "boost" worth it, for example on champs with good base damage but lower scaling, or is it because even if it does give less damage, it brings more utility with the movespeed?

I dont know the exact number, but it always feels like sorcs do WAY more damage than buying wand.

Its like one of those weird things where the first time you go early sorcs and just blow people up you get that "wait WTF!?!" moment.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
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