EPTHe epic farmed with the cleaver and made my life a living hell for 16 minutes until laning ended.
[Patch 1.0.0.132: Sejuani] General Discussion - Page 24
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Sermokala
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He epic farmed with the cleaver and made my life a living hell for 16 minutes until laning ended. | ||
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Requizen
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Terranasaur
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UniversalSnip
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best normal queue build | ||
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starfries
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
On January 18 2012 14:42 Requizen wrote: Sivir is silly as shit now. Dat speed, dat AoE, dat boomerang. New top AD? has been for awhile now, but was kind of a secret op | ||
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zodde
Sweden1908 Posts
He seems so strong, just gotta figure out how to build him now that you don't get shitloads of free health. Edit: Btw what masteries do you guys run to jungle with Jax? Did some random heavy offensive-tree build for the previous game, I just feel that you have so many points to move around with him. | ||
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koreasilver
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Terranasaur
United States2085 Posts
On January 18 2012 14:51 starfries wrote: I always feel bad buying Gunblade after the nerf though, it just seems so expensive and not that amazing. I think I'm going to try some really weird stuff on him, like Atma's/Rylai's and the previously mentioned Nashor's. I tried a WOTA/Thirster build in the jungle today. Lots of sustain. Rylais and Mallet look good too. With the way empower works now I think he can greatly benefit from the slow. Also, regarding Jax. The new counter strike is really cool. I don't know if the animation is just really buggy, but it's easy to manipulate. You can move around and have the spell hit many extra targets as well as auto attack during the dodge phase of the spell. | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
Canada2562 Posts
On January 18 2012 14:02 Skithiryx wrote: Alot of Renektons issues i've been getting around just by jungling him, I'm not sure why it's not seen more he has really fast clear times, stays pretty high and red+w leads to very stronk ganks, he does have an issue with lack of resists but he can still get pretty tanky and just become a throw away initiate at worst. Yeah he seems like a jungle champion. But he has no slow... On January 18 2012 14:41 sermokala wrote: played against mundo solo top with cho and it was so disheartening to see him regen so much no matter how much I harassed him. He epic farmed with the cleaver and made my life a living hell for 16 minutes until laning ended. I'm sure the mundo was pissed at you too. You healed every time you killed a minion :p | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Pretty much where she is going to have to stay power wise. Her cds are really long, her low level scaling/level up pattern is weird, and her actual clear power is fairly low compared to other jungles. That being said- her gank power is stupid. They cant actually buff her from this state without her becoming face meltingly op. I ran a w-q-e-e e>w>q build and it seemed to work pretty well. W scales better with the actual health gain from the level up than it does by spending a point in the skill, and E makes for sick ganks and a bit of extra burst. I ran standard udyr runes- aspeed reds, armor yellows, scaling mr blue, movespeed quint, and honestly that felt pretty damn good. Build was basically skarner/mummy/meowkai- philo, boots, hog, moar tank. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
As another non-standard suggestion, Nashor's seems pretty good on him as well. Though he doesn't really need to build AS since he gets it from his passive. I'm thinking of starting with a Vamp Scepter (jungle, ofc), just going for boots and a Giant's belt maybe, and turning my Scepter into a Gunblade or BT somewhere down the line. I keep thinking BT/Merc's/Rylai/Atma/Gunblade/whatever might just be a silly endgame build for him. Maybe I'm just tired. Edit: Also, straight up Riven build of Wriggles/BT/GA/BT is kinda fun. With ult and passive up, your autos start murdering people so hard it's not even funny. Plus, Q and E start hitting hard. Dunno if it's better than hybrid or AP Jax, but nice to note. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On January 18 2012 14:41 Cloud wrote: I call bs on building ad on a champ that scales absolutely nothing off of it. She doesn't really need to scale off it. If I spend 10k gold on Deathcap, Rylais, and WotA I get these stats: 1.30(80+140+80)= 390 AP +500HP +25% spellvamp That means that Sej's Q will do 363 damage (instead of 210) = if Q's up twice in a teamfight, thats 300 more damage. W will do 65+2%HP DPS (instead of 35+2%hp dps) E will do 455 (instead of 260) R wil do 630 (instead of 350) Considering most champs will have like 50-100 MR the difference in your W is negligible, your E hurts but you can only hit one target unless you manage to autoattack multiple within the three second window her passive slow has. Your Q can also only hit one champ because you stop upon hitting an enemy champion. Your Ulti has damn impressive damage as well as the stun, but it is only up every two minutes so its only useful once every two teamfights anyway. While you get a decent amount of damage, you end up damn squishy: 2395 HP at level 18 with 77 Armor and 51 (76 with mercs) MR. Chances are you are dead within the time it takes to initiate and use all your skills.Its really quite... meh imo. Say I spend that same 10k on Warmogs, Atmas, Ionic Spark and Wriggles (asssuming we started Regne->Philo+mercs on both) and you get: 30+45 armor 23+(2%HP) AD 15 Lifesteal 1270+250 hp +50% attack speed (about 1.25 attacks per second.) While you are stuck with base damage spells, you get a whopping 3415 HP meaning you get an additional 92 AD givjng you 206 auto attack damage, as well as lifesteal, 152 armor, and 76 MR giving you like 40% more EHP and the ability to throw out the same amount of damage overall especially since you actually gain more W damage from the extra HP than you do from all the AP in our first build. Your teamfight damage output is slightly less, but you end up being a much better duelist all game, and become much better at doing your tank job of being hella annoying for carries to deal with because Sej's spells have ridiculously low uptime. | ||
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Hidden_MotiveS
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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Two_DoWn
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Skithiryx
Australia648 Posts
On January 18 2012 14:59 Hidden_MotiveS wrote: Yeah he seems like a jungle champion. But he has no slow... I'm sure the mundo was pissed at you too. You healed every time you killed a minion :p You generally always have red buff and even if not getting a Phage isn't that expensive and you can just go Atmallet instead of Atmogs... | ||
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UniversalSnip
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Two_DoWn
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On January 18 2012 15:32 UniversalSnip wrote: wow I have no idea what champion ppl have actually been talking about on this last page, as far as building ad, gunblade, etc. I thought it was mundo? I was assuming it was Jax, with a smattering of Sej. | ||
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