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Craton

United States17250 Posts

January 31 2012 06:00 GMT

#3581

he had several ults that won a fight

SnK-Arcbound

United States4423 Posts

January 31 2012 06:11 GMT

#3582

Cass ban, which is a very good choice. Few ap carries have 4 damaging skills, and cass has one that is completely spamable, and most of it is aoe. Ahri isn't a problem because people are used to her. Cassio best ap in the game right now in my opinion, her damage is way too fucking high. Also notice how most of the new ap's they come out with are having 4 damaging spells (except for viktor, which is probably why he sucks).

Also, there are the little images for terran and protoss and zerg, could we get little pictures of champions maybe?

beefhamburger

United States3962 Posts

January 31 2012 06:12 GMT

#3583

I can see the Locket instead of tracking how much dmg everyone has taken, but rather 230 divided between X number of allies within Y range. That way stacking won't be TOO bad and the engine doesn't have to be able to do any crazy dmg tracking.

Nos-

Canada12016 Posts

January 31 2012 06:12 GMT

#3584

I don't doubt that, only tuned in after they already had Baron. I have never seen Orianna in a ranked game thus far, is she a hard champion or do people think she's under powered? I've played her a couple of times when she was free and really liked her kit and her ball mechanic.

BlackMagister

United States5834 Posts

January 31 2012 06:16 GMT

#3585

Saint talking about how people have forgotten the old OPs specifically Zilean and Yorick. Nothing has really changed since they were considered OP, jungle and mastery changes shouldn't really have mattered to them people just stopped playing them at tournaments. Expect maybe to the 1v2 lane with Yorick.

On another note how viable do you think Jungle Nasus and Sion (AD) are. Jungle Sion has no problems jungling and his ganks aren't weak. He's just gets worse farm than a top lane Sion. In teamfights however it seems like you have to die or be put in position where you will be focused first because of Sion's ult. Which I guess is ok, because then my team cleans up in the few games I have played him. I haven't played Jungle Nasus, but have been on the receiving end and he still really tanky even though he has jungle farm.

Hakker

United States1360 Posts

January 31 2012 06:16 GMT

#3586

Kennen is still miles ahead of cass imo. kennen is literally NEVER a bad pick. He can top mid or bot. Cass on the other hand can be shut out of lane by a handful of champions, and is pretty much only strong in mid lane.

Craton

United States17250 Posts

January 31 2012 06:17 GMT

#3587

On January 31 2012 15:12 Nos- wrote:
I don't doubt that, only tuned in after they already had Baron. I have never seen Orianna in a ranked game thus far, is she a hard champion or do people think she's under powered? I've played her a couple of times when she was free and really liked her kit and her ball mechanic.

both

her laning phase is really mediocre since all the nerfs

her lategame damage is okay, a bit low compared to normal ap's unless you get fed, but her utility is pretty much unmatched

NeoIllusions

United States37500 Posts

January 31 2012 06:18 GMT

#3588

Xerath Ori Karth, stronkest 3 AP mid. ;O

Too bad most people don't even try to learn/practice the first two.

Ryalnos

United States1946 Posts

January 31 2012 06:20 GMT

#3589

Dan Dinh with a protastic 5 health pot + red pot jungle opening.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

January 31 2012 06:23 GMT

#3590

Pro tip: Sivir may be broken as fuck. I pick her up for the lolz, suddenly first blood and this happens:

I have no idea what I'm doing. I just hit buttons and double kill.

BlackMagister

United States5834 Posts

January 31 2012 06:27 GMT

#3591

SV saying Cait beats Sivir in lane. Saying he's seen Doublelift 1v2 Sivir lanes as Cait. I would think Sivir would do fine with her spell shield for Caits Qs and even eating her traps. I guess people just suck at abusing Cait's range.

Perplex

United States1693 Posts

January 31 2012 06:30 GMT

#3592

On January 31 2012 15:27 BlackMagister wrote:
SV saying Cait beats Sivir in lane. Saying he's seen Doublelift 1v2 Sivir lanes as Cait. I would think Sivir would do fine with her spell shield for Caits Qs and even eating her traps. I guess people just suck at abusing Cait's range.

Yeah especially with sona. People overestimate early game sivir, she's really really weak to be honest. Cait can bully her pretty easily

Treadmill

Canada2833 Posts

January 31 2012 06:32 GMT

#3593

SO I JUST DISCOVERED that you can tell if your allies have their ults off cooldown from little dot in the corner of their portrait. I did not know this for sooo long.

BlackMagister

United States5834 Posts

January 31 2012 06:33 GMT

#3594

On January 31 2012 15:32 Treadmill wrote:
SO I JUST DISCOVERED that you can tell if your allies have their ults off cooldown from little dot in the corner of their portrait. I did not know this for sooo long.

Except it can be bugged. It will show that an ult is up even when it's not or so I've heard.

Also in the scrim both bot lane sides saying they can't see Sivir Boomerangs so that might be why Sivir is winning in lane so hard.

Hakker

United States1360 Posts

January 31 2012 06:40 GMT

#3595

On January 31 2012 15:33 BlackMagister wrote:

Show nested quote +

This happens to me all the time especially with champions like xerath/ahri/irelia that have multi cast ultis.

Kenpachi

United States9908 Posts

January 31 2012 06:42 GMT

#3596

On January 31 2012 15:18 NeoIllusions wrote:
Xerath Ori Karth, stronkest 3 AP mid. ;O

Too bad most people don't even try to learn/practice the first two.

i hope they dont. Xerath is mine

beefhamburger

United States3962 Posts

January 31 2012 06:42 GMT

#3597

Lol I just told a Talon that like an hour ago and he did not believe me at all. He kept saying I was stupid for just assuming it was down XD.

Nos-

Canada12016 Posts

January 31 2012 06:45 GMT

#3598

On January 31 2012 15:18 NeoIllusions wrote:
Xerath Ori Karth, stronkest 3 AP mid. ;O

Too bad most people don't even try to learn/practice the first two.

Xerath and his bloody 9 million range cannon barrage makes me rage at all times cause no one ever wants to engage when he's setup and get picked off by his lazorz. Never even played against Ori mid so I have no comment on that. Karth I see less often than before but don't really have a problem with him if we have a soraka or someone with a good displacer.

Two_DoWn

United States13684 Posts

January 31 2012 06:49 GMT

#3599

The thing about ori is she should never ever die. Like a well played ori just farms, doesnt care what you do to her cuz of her ball, then gets a billion cs, waits for you to be impatient and try something, then just kills you.

She does need help though. She doesnt have enough damage to actually carry a team through damage alone, so you do need to pick another source of damage to compliment her. Its not as bad as, say, picking maokai and needing damage to go with him, but you do need to build a team around her for her to be optimal.

overt

United States9006 Posts

January 31 2012 06:49 GMT

#3600

I think the reason Orianna is underplayed is that when compared to her release version she's "shitty" now. But compared to other APs? She brings the most utility of any AP carry, she has burst damage, she can initiate, and she is still strong in lane. She can just be beaten in lane and isn't as face roll. But she's still really strong, I think that people like Salce or jiji who were god tier with her on release should definitely keep playing her as she's still good.

On January 31 2012 15:11 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Also, there are the little images for terran and protoss and zerg, could we get little pictures of champions maybe?

This is still a StarCraft site though. But I would agree with you only if they changed to SC2 images in the future. I have a feeling they'll keep the BW ones out of tradition for some time to come though. I think the LoL community is growing pretty big, to a point where LoL commentators actually read our forums during live events because our information is not only reliable but pretty insightful. So, if they change the images in the future I would agree that they should have some sort of LoL option but as long as it stays BW then I don't think they should incorporate LoL images.

locodoco said it himself but Caitlyn lane beats pretty much every other AD due to the fact that not only she outranges other ADs but she has traps. You could say, "well can't Sivir just spell shield a trap?," and while that's true it means she's now vulnerable to CC or a spell from your support. And, as loco said, you also have to factor in which support the two have. Sivir isn't so strong that she wins every single lane. In fact, I think there are more ADs than just Caitlyn that can beat Sivir in lane.