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arnath
United States1317 Posts
On January 31 2012 15:18 NeoIllusions wrote: Xerath Ori Karth, stronkest 3 AP mid. ;O Too bad most people don't even try to learn/practice the first two. I think Xerath is really underrated. His ability to stun from incredible range lets you punish people really hard for being even slightly out of position in team standoffs. Sort of a more spammable Ashe arrow. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
The Dotards tears are delicious. Geez. Why cant people just accept other games. Imma watch Dota 2 and LoL (well, once I ever bother to figure out how to play dota). I just love how if it was the other way around everyone in that thread who is going "Fuck ESL they suck anyway" would be bending over backwards to praise the organization. | ||
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Cloud9157
United States2968 Posts
Victory never tasted so sweet. | ||
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Attakijing
United States693 Posts
On January 31 2012 16:10 arnath wrote: I think Xerath is really underrated. His ability to stun from incredible range lets you punish people really hard for being even slightly out of position in team standoffs. Sort of a more spammable Ashe arrow. yeah everyone on tl agrees | ||
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Lancer723
United States486 Posts
On January 31 2012 15:49 overt wrote: I think the reason Orianna is underplayed is that when compared to her release version she's "shitty" now. But compared to other APs? She brings the most utility of any AP carry, she has burst damage, she can initiate, and she is still strong in lane. She can just be beaten in lane and isn't as face roll. But she's still really strong, I think that people like Salce or jiji who were god tier with her on release should definitely keep playing her as she's still good. This is still a StarCraft site though. But I would agree with you only if they changed to SC2 images in the future. I have a feeling they'll keep the BW ones out of tradition for some time to come though. I think the LoL community is growing pretty big, to a point where LoL commentators actually read our forums during live events because our information is not only reliable but pretty insightful. So, if they change the images in the future I would agree that they should have some sort of LoL option but as long as it stays BW then I don't think they should incorporate LoL images. locodoco said it himself but Caitlyn lane beats pretty much every other AD due to the fact that not only she outranges other ADs but she has traps. You could say, "well can't Sivir just spell shield a trap?," and while that's true it means she's now vulnerable to CC or a spell from your support. And, as loco said, you also have to factor in which support the two have. Sivir isn't so strong that she wins every single lane. In fact, I think there are more ADs than just Caitlyn that can beat Sivir in lane. I think it's generally accepted that Sivir loses alot of lanes to other AD's, but her ult is so good in teamfights that teams will accept losing bottom in order to have the utility and power of her ult later in the game. | ||
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anmolsinghmzn2009
India1783 Posts
On January 31 2012 16:21 Two_DoWn wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=307596¤tpage=2 The Dotards tears are delicious. Geez. Why cant people just accept other games. Imma watch Dota 2 and LoL (well, once I ever bother to figure out how to play dota). I just love how if it was the other way around everyone in that thread who is going "Fuck ESL they suck anyway" would be bending over backwards to praise the organization. Yeah its really annoying. I don't understand why people get so pissed of when other games do well. Even plenty of starcraft fans get pissed of at LoL doing decently. Its not like these games can't co-exist. Everyone is an elitist. | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
And nothing beats headbutting a squishy to death. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On January 31 2012 16:21 Two_DoWn wrote: The Dotards tears are delicious. Geez. Why cant people just accept other games. the fucking irony is incredible. dotards? really? | ||
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On January 31 2012 16:33 Lancer723 wrote: I think it's generally accepted that Sivir loses alot of lanes to other AD's, but her ult is so good in teamfights that teams will accept losing bottom in order to have the utility and power of her ult later in the game. If you told Chaox that he would laugh you out of the building. Sivir dominates any lane matchup on bot and only Cait is a threat simply because she outranges Sivir (only talking about auto attacks, believe Sivir's Q is longer than Cait's Q, not to mention spell shield to nullify Cait's). Sivir can literally spell shield all of Caits abilities and her traps are literally floating mana potions. You can literally stick any support with Sivir and she does well. Taric/Alistar/Leona guarantees maximum double rang hits (30-50% life done simply with Q). Stick her with Soraka and she can literally auto push bottom lane all day and farm like mad, even under tower with infinite mana and HP. Only champion I actually don't want a Sona support, though that ult + Power cord dmg from Sona will mostly likely kill anyone if everything lands. The way it stands now Sivir is on a tier by herself with all the others scurrying for 2nd. I expect a second round of Sivir nerfs in the near future. Perhaps next patch even. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On January 31 2012 16:21 Two_DoWn wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=307596¤tpage=2 The Dotards tears are delicious. Geez. Why cant people just accept other games. Imma watch Dota 2 and LoL (well, once I ever bother to figure out how to play dota). I just love how if it was the other way around everyone in that thread who is going "Fuck ESL they suck anyway" would be bending over backwards to praise the organization. Maybe it's just me being biased but I find the DotA2 community to be terrible. I'd recommend that people who have common sense just steer clear of threads like that because they're really just filled with stupidity and mindless bashing of LoL. I think most of it stems from jealousy. It's the same reason so many SC2 fans hate LoL. When a game becomes more popular and brings in more viewers than a game you think "deserves it" then you're obviously going to have people try to rationalize it as being an "easy game" or that "Riot paid them off." It's like the BW vs. SC2 debate all over again but twice as stupid because most of those people like SC2. I hope that DotA2 succeeds because I think there's room for DotA2 and LoL but the fact that so many people on TL hate a game so much is ridiculous. On January 31 2012 16:33 Lancer723 wrote: I think it's generally accepted that Sivir loses alot of lanes to other AD's, but her ult is so good in teamfights that teams will accept losing bottom in order to have the utility and power of her ult later in the game. Just two days ago on TL people were talking about Sivir lane as if it was hard to beat, calling it the strongest AD lane, and making fun of Doublelift for saying that he can shit on a Sivir lane as Corki/Caitlyn. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
Much better than when they call us noobs and bads for playing lol. I mean, it IS possible to like both games. Most normal humans are capable of liking more than one thing. I, for example, enjoy lol AND dota 2, and will not bash on either the game or people who prefer one over the other. What I WILL bash on are the assholes who start bashing lol (or any other game for that matter) as soon as any bit of positive news emerges. I call them dotards. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On January 31 2012 16:49 Two_DoWn wrote: In reference to someone who blindly bashes on any game that isnt Dota? I actually quite like that label. Much better than when they call us noobs and bads for playing lol. I mean, it IS possible to like both games. Most normal humans are capable of liking more than one thing. I, for example, enjoy lol AND dota 2, and will not bash on either the game or people who prefer one over the other. What I WILL bash on are the assholes who start bashing lol (or any other game for that matter) as soon as any bit of positive news emerges. I call them dotards. No dude. It's not fair. Unless you say every single time that you mean only people who show that specific negative behaviour, it's going to come across the wrong way, and it's going to make you look like exactly that kind of idiot. I can't say I really care if you do, I'm just giving you a heads up. It's really dumb. | ||
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arnath
United States1317 Posts
1) Does LOLReplay work with the spectator client (e.g., if you get a spectator replay do you get all the data)? 2) Has Riot made any comment in the last 2-3 months on replays? I always assumed they'd release it at the same time as spectator but that's clearly not the case. I don't really have a useful way to review team games right now because my replay files only have data for stuff I'm looking at. | ||
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warscythes
365 Posts
- New Leona skin - It is delayed for a minimal of one day - Sivir getting heavily nerfed, mainly Q base damage/scaling reduction Ult duration reduced, ult MS reduced - small Sona bugfix - Graves/Ahri(most likely) is getting nerfed the patch after this, on the other hand the Shen buff will be in the same patch. - Replays is not coming out soon - New pentakill skin is getting worked on, aka the last one I believe to complete the band - IP is getting slightly reworked | ||
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dignity
Canada908 Posts
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warscythes
365 Posts
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On January 31 2012 17:09 warscythes wrote: Probably, they are missing a drummer anyway. Time to theory craft who makes the best drummer now. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
He says she's a good LB counter and still viable. Chalice + full AP build. Interesting. | ||
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ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
Im calling Shen, Katarina or Akali. But probably Shen. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On January 31 2012 17:17 WaveofShadow wrote: Salce smashing Dan Dinh's face in with Orianna. He says she's a good LB counter and still viable. Chalice + full AP build. Interesting. im actually surprised chalice isn't oriana core. she has horrendous mana problems, probably the worst out of all APs that use mana, anivia/swain being close runner ups. sure you can hand off blue buff, but you're probably not going to have blue buff 100% of the time. chalice is also relatively cheap at ~900 gold and gives MR which is nice since most of the time Ori will be up against another AP. | ||
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