EPT[Patch 1.0.0.132: Sejuani] General Discussion - Page 178
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seRapH
United States9777 Posts
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dooraven
Australia2820 Posts
Interesting, wonder if they'll all be played in US or alternate servers between tuesday and thursday. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 31 2012 12:02 seRapH wrote: That locket looks like the most borken item. Lux with locket new fotm everyone starts playing support. I'm thinking the locket is going to be stupid strong in multiples. Every AoE shield/heal active item like that in DotA (Mek/Pipe) always ever had to have a "can't receive the active multiple times in a short period of time" restriction. Even Heal in LoL has this built into the "repeated Heals have diminished effect" part. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
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warscythes
365 Posts
On January 31 2012 12:12 TheYango wrote: I'm thinking the locket is going to be stupid strong in multiples. Every AoE shield/heal active item like that in DotA (Mek/Pipe) always ever had to have a "can't receive the active multiple times in a short period of time" restriction. Even Heal in LoL has this built into the "repeated Heals have diminished effect" part. I am 85% sure you will get some kind of debuff that does not allow you to receive the shield for the next 30 seconds or something. | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
On January 31 2012 12:14 SnK-Arcbound wrote: From reading the item, it isn't a 230 damage shield for every person, it's a 230 damage shield for all 5 people. Aka it absorbs 230 from anyone and it falls off. Not that op at all. I doubt it. I don't think there is any item or ability in the game that functions like that. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 31 2012 12:14 SnK-Arcbound wrote: From reading the item, it isn't a 230 damage shield for every person, it's a 230 damage shield for all 5 people. Aka it absorbs 230 from anyone and it falls off. Not that op at all. I find that unlikely because having a "shared" buff that tracks numbers across 5 separate people is going to be weird as fuck to implement. And yeah, I don't think any other ability functions that way. Well, it looks like we're finally getting Pipe in LoL. | ||
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warscythes
365 Posts
We shall see though. | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
going (as a jungler) rejuv+pot > philo boots > hog > boots 2 > emblem > locket seems really strong, especially once you tack in a shurelyas and/or an aegis. That's a ton of cost-efficient stats and they're all pretty well-rounded, but heavier on the armor side (and most teams these days are armor heavy on NA with an AD bot and bruiser top/jungle). Might delay the shurelya's till later, idk. | ||
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Frolossus
United States4779 Posts
iron solari cult with their own item now lmao if no one remembers where it came from it was this thread/forum war thingy http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1352595 | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
There pretty much has to be a "can't be shielded again for 30 seconds" debuff for this thing not to be retarded. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
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overt
United States9006 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On January 31 2012 08:30 Craton wrote: Yes, there are far too many champions with free escapes. Pushing the lane isn't an issue when you either have tons of escapes or have tons of ward coverage. You don't really have to push the lane very hard to heal up as an AD carry when you're sitting on 21%+ lifesteal. Lifesteal by itself is fine, but it's the abuse cases in certain scenarios caused by the fact that it doesn't translate evenly across all archetypes or even champions within archetypes. The exact same goes for spell vamp in that it's perfectly fine on mana champions, but completely broken on non-mana champions. The one thing you could potentially change is how efficiently you can get early life steal, specially with dblades. You already want them for the HP and AD, but the lifesteal is just icing on the cake. Vamp scepter by itself is only done by AD carries, so if you move more of the lifesteal to the item in builds into, you could kill some of the 2 dblade scepter tons of sustain openers. You would hurt some junglers in the process. My personal feeling is that lifesteal/vamp is a great mechanic for jungling and fighting enemy champs and a pretty horrible one when you are just right clicking creeps. The solution I've always felt was best is to just have lifesteal function at partial (half?) effectiveness vs minions (and full effectiveness vs neutral creeps). It neuters the abuse cases while keeping the ones that make the mechanic basically fun. | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
On January 31 2012 12:45 overt wrote: Wow, and that locket builds from HoG? I wonder if supports will actually consider getting that locket over Shurelia's now. Well, tank supports (taric/ali/leona/nunu) often would get Aegis before a Shurelya's, so the case is if they want to go for a Locket or an Aegis and then (if both), which order and do they get Shurelya's before or after. It's a lot of gold to get all of them as a support. I doubt I'll get a Locket before Shurelya's on sona/janna/soraka, though. On January 31 2012 12:34 Chairman Ray wrote: What's the reason for putting in locket? It looks like it serves the same purpose as Aegis. Supposedly for supports to build their HoG into something, but really it's pretty rare that the game gets so late that I have money, but nothing to build since even if your jungler or top gets aegis you'd just get a starks or wota. Even in games where we have aegis and double wota, I still don't get to finish a Starks before the game ends. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On January 31 2012 11:43 De4ngus wrote: First of all you're in the wrong thread lol. Also solo top is mostly tanks...... These builds are pretty funny though  Solo top kennen, solo top ww, solo top w.e, tbh, I just don't like tanks, nor jungling as one. That game was so painful to play. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 31 2012 12:56 Craton wrote: Well, tank supports (taric/ali/leona/nunu) often would get Aegis before a Shurelya's, so the case is if they want to go for a Locket or an Aegis and then (if both), which order and do they get Shurelya's before or after. It's a lot of gold to get all of them as a support. I doubt I'll get a Locket before Shurelya's on sona/janna/soraka, though. Supposedly for supports to build their HoG into something, but really it's pretty rare that the game gets so late that I have money, but nothing to build since even if your jungler or top gets aegis you'd just get a starks or wota. Even in games where we have aegis and double wota, I still don't get to finish a Starks before the game ends. I don't think supports should be the one bearing the load of these new support items. If anything, having new powerful support items means people should make a greater effort to distribute the burden across the whole team. | ||
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Craton
United States17274 Posts
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I_Love_Bacon
United States5765 Posts
On January 31 2012 12:11 dooraven wrote: http://clgaming.net/board/board25-announcements/board26-community-news/5415-clg-vs-clg-eu-scrims-twice-a-week/ Interesting, wonder if they'll all be played in US or alternate servers between tuesday and thursday. I've been hoping CLG does some team switching around and tries it. Like, take 1 person per team and swap them w/ their counterpart. See if there are any good habits to pick up or bad habits to point out. CLG, having 2 full teams, is in a position to really use their squads to practice. I think they'd be missing out on a huge opportunity if they only used it for scrims. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On January 31 2012 12:58 wei2coolman wrote: Solo top kennen, solo top ww, solo top w.e, tbh, I just don't like tanks, nor jungling as one. That game was so painful to play. By the way, at 1100 elo if you in your opinion are in "elo hell" aka way better than the people you play with, AP Sion mid is the way to go. it's impossible to not carry with him if you're way better, and it's completely effortless. The late game shouldn't even arrive if you do it properly. Sure, you'll lose some impossible games, but your winrate is going to still go through the roof. | ||
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