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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 14:27:07
January 17 2012 14:25 GMT
#201
Is his CDR shorter higher with higher oranges too?

Wow, im seeing soraka bans and sivir picks in every single game now. wtf.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
January 17 2012 14:25 GMT
#202
On January 17 2012 22:58 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 22:41 G3CKO wrote:
New champ Shaniqua is a Shyvana with a permaslow and mass stun?


might aswell just call the new champ "i build ashe as a bruiser and do tons of damage"

on the topic of vayne, i felt that reddit post made about tumble compared to her silver arrows really misguided. it talked about tumble critting a support for 1k damage as if thats what vayne EVER does outside of against retards in the laning phase.

if you tumble into a team fight to shoot the squishy your gonna be dead, instantly. vayne has always been about her insane ability to 1v1 and combined with passive+ult her ability to clear up after a team fight, all this leads me to conclude that tumble should never be used aggressively unless you are 100% sure of it being safe. vayne is the purest form of "keep myself alive at all costs because i can clear up low hp people" and her ability to deal decent damage to tanks through true damage really adds to this, she can be a legit dps even when sitting at the back poking the tanks.

why exactly has everyone got such a hard on for tumble?


I'am starting to understand ahri and i feel pretty much the same about her actually. difference is I suck at vayne but do decent with ahri.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
January 17 2012 14:34 GMT
#203
Vayne nerfs seem misguided. No doubt she's really strong, but mobility is kinda her gimmick. If anything they should have just nerfed her crazy retarded damage.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 17 2012 14:37 GMT
#204
maybe crazy retarded damage is her gimmick
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
January 17 2012 14:38 GMT
#205
So is anyone streaming the new champion atm?
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 14:40:43
January 17 2012 14:39 GMT
#206
After a lot of thoughts, I'm pretty sure Skarner will be ok. His 1st (blue) clear won't be affected, and his ganks still are stupidly good. His utility with nearly pure tank items late games still is very high.

I think that with an early mana crystal (for Sheen), maybe before HoG, he'll be ok. And continue to melt faces in teamfights, which is what makes him so good.

EDIT : Maybe I should try a Manamune/Frozen heart instead of a fast Randuin/Shurelya now...
The legend of Darien lives on
HavokTheorem
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
New Zealand250 Posts
January 17 2012 14:39 GMT
#207
Bought Sejuani. She's kinda underpowered early game. I had to B very frequently in the jungle. Her damage is pretty unremarkable until she gets to about level 15 when she can dish out tons of AOE. So yeah, a frustrating at the start but good scaling. And we won a 4v5 even though it was second game with her!
The truth does not require your approval.
BlueSpace
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany2182 Posts
January 17 2012 14:41 GMT
#208
On January 17 2012 22:58 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 22:41 G3CKO wrote:
New champ Shaniqua is a Shyvana with a permaslow and mass stun?


might aswell just call the new champ "i build ashe as a bruiser and do tons of damage"

on the topic of vayne, i felt that reddit post made about tumble compared to her silver arrows really misguided. it talked about tumble critting a support for 1k damage as if thats what vayne EVER does outside of against retards in the laning phase.

if you tumble into a team fight to shoot the squishy your gonna be dead, instantly. vayne has always been about her insane ability to 1v1 and combined with passive+ult her ability to clear up after a team fight, all this leads me to conclude that tumble should never be used aggressively unless you are 100% sure of it being safe. vayne is the purest form of "keep myself alive at all costs because i can clear up low hp people" and her ability to deal decent damage to tanks through true damage really adds to this, she can be a legit dps even when sitting at the back poking the tanks.

why exactly has everyone got such a hard on for tumble?


My feeling is that the vayne nerfs mainly affect her ability to 1v1 and chase people down. I mostly use tumble to stay out of trouble in teamfights and not so much to maximize damage. What is interesting though is the effect on early laning. She is already very weak there and taking damage off tumble will making trading efficiently with her even harder. People now max q most of the time, maybe people will again start to max e and go for massive crits.
Probe1: "Because people are opinionated and love to share their thoughts. Then they read someone else agree with them and get their opinion confused with fact."
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 17 2012 14:44 GMT
#209
On January 17 2012 23:41 BlueSpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 22:58 turdburgler wrote:
On January 17 2012 22:41 G3CKO wrote:
New champ Shaniqua is a Shyvana with a permaslow and mass stun?


might aswell just call the new champ "i build ashe as a bruiser and do tons of damage"

on the topic of vayne, i felt that reddit post made about tumble compared to her silver arrows really misguided. it talked about tumble critting a support for 1k damage as if thats what vayne EVER does outside of against retards in the laning phase.

if you tumble into a team fight to shoot the squishy your gonna be dead, instantly. vayne has always been about her insane ability to 1v1 and combined with passive+ult her ability to clear up after a team fight, all this leads me to conclude that tumble should never be used aggressively unless you are 100% sure of it being safe. vayne is the purest form of "keep myself alive at all costs because i can clear up low hp people" and her ability to deal decent damage to tanks through true damage really adds to this, she can be a legit dps even when sitting at the back poking the tanks.

why exactly has everyone got such a hard on for tumble?


My feeling is that the vayne nerfs mainly affect her ability to 1v1 and chase people down. I mostly use tumble to stay out of trouble in teamfights and not so much to maximize damage. What is interesting though is the effect on early laning. She is already very weak there and taking damage off tumble will making trading efficiently with her even harder. People now max q most of the time, maybe people will again start to max e and go for massive crits.


pretty much exactly what i said at the end of the last thread ;p she is hardly a laning monster but they hit her base damage, which is irrelevent at the end of the game when she has massive total AD and maxed W.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
January 17 2012 14:53 GMT
#210
Yay some small buffs for WW and Jarman.

Also, is there a Piltover Customs Heimerdinger or is supposed to read Blitzcrank?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
tissue
Profile Joined April 2009
Malaysia441 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 15:01:23
January 17 2012 14:55 GMT
#211
On January 17 2012 21:57 Leporello wrote:
Going Vlad mid every game.

Before this patch he was a ridiculously strong mid. Now... lol. Can't wait.


Yeah, if you call being unable to trade with anybody and farming under tower until 9 'ridiculously strong'. His last buff was 4 months ago and it was the rylai bugfix. I kind of understand why Riot was reluctant to buff him but it was just so bad.

I'm wondering if they will remove Vlad's passive one of these days. Now that Kayle and Jax have been reworked, they've gotten rid of 2 out of 3 double-dipping passives. Vlad is now the last of the holdouts, along with the ubiquitous atma's impaler.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
January 17 2012 14:56 GMT
#212
On January 17 2012 12:24 UniversalSnip wrote:
surprised to see spark didn't get buffed when they moved it over, current version is pretty garbage

Spark was buffed in the previous patch. Nobody seemed to notice.
G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
January 17 2012 15:11 GMT
#213
When Shaniqua gets on you it's pretty hard to escape....
┌⋉⊳∀⊲) ☆ If your soul has not truly given up, then you can hear the sound that races through the end of the world.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 17 2012 15:15 GMT
#214
On January 17 2012 23:53 mordek wrote:
Yay some small buffs for WW and Jarman.

Also, is there a Piltover Customs Heimerdinger or is supposed to read Blitzcrank?

There's a piltover heimer, it's the dude with teh headband.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
January 17 2012 15:16 GMT
#215
Of course; perma slow. In other news i just saw a Jarvan top beat GP. Should've opened up Lolrecorder

There should be a skin where shes riding on Volibear.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
G3CKO
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1430 Posts
January 17 2012 15:18 GMT
#216
On January 18 2012 00:16 RogerX wrote:
Of course; perma slow. In other news i just saw a Jarvan top beat GP. Should've opened up Lolrecorder

There should be a skin where shes riding on Volibear.


J4 is like my favorite champion in the game pretty much. Glad to see he's getting some well deserved buffs.
┌⋉⊳∀⊲) ☆ If your soul has not truly given up, then you can hear the sound that races through the end of the world.
GeneralStan
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States4789 Posts
January 17 2012 15:18 GMT
#217
On January 17 2012 23:53 mordek wrote:
Yay some small buffs for WW and Jarman.

Also, is there a Piltover Customs Heimerdinger or is supposed to read Blitzcrank?


Its the heimer where he's dressed up as a mechanic
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 15:31:11
January 17 2012 15:23 GMT
#218
New champ is like Shy on Steroids with a sweet slow lololol she farms so well!

Im really looking forward to how this new champ plays out as I like her style. Now just got to figure out what might be the best runes for her....hmm I prefer to lane and it seems people want her to be a jungler
Never Knows Best.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 17 2012 15:24 GMT
#219
Anyone put this up? I can't be the only one super excited.

It's your boy Guzma!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 17 2012 15:31 GMT
#220
As long as when he dies he goes DEWDEWDEW I will be happy.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
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