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daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
January 06 2012 00:28 GMT
#1621
Regi speaking wisdom, just scrim as much as possible as 5. LoL scene practice is far too much solo q shit, it's not gonna improve team play to just grind solo q whole day every day.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 00:34:04
January 06 2012 00:29 GMT
#1622
On January 06 2012 09:27 WhiteDog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 09:20 Shiv. wrote:
On January 06 2012 09:04 Redox wrote:
On January 06 2012 08:45 Shiv. wrote:
On January 06 2012 08:44 mr_tolkien wrote:
Cassiocelote too good. I don't see TSM winning if Oce has Cassio.

Generally speaking, I disagree because while Oce has games where he carries the crap out of his team, he tends to derp a lot once he is ahead, at least that's my take on him. I just generally dislike the kid though, so that might be biased.

Why the fuck is OddOne derping so hard btw?

I am guessing you are basing you opinion on solo q / team q games though.
Ocelote is one of these players that plays his best in important games and doesnt focus in solo q.

Mostly, yes. I remember some odd plays from him in tournament matches, too, though. Banshee's first Anivia comes to mind.

I'm by no means saying he is a bad player, I don't think he's the most consistent one, though.

On January 06 2012 09:20 WhiteDog wrote:
Can someone link me the stream ? Seems interesting.

Also, I just made a 3v3 ranked team with some friend, rolled around randoms people, but who do you ban in 3v3 ? we had no ideas.


http://solomid.net/livestream.php?s=74

They finished now, though. They'll scrim empire&SK tomorrow, though.

Thanks bud !

TSM scrimming CLG at 9pm EST (in 1.5 hours). Not sure if it's CLG.NA or CLG.EU, but should be worth a watch.

On January 06 2012 09:28 daemir wrote:
Regi speaking wisdom, just scrim as much as possible as 5. LoL scene practice is far too much solo q shit, it's not gonna improve team play to just grind solo q whole day every day.

kinda sad how the NA ranked 5s ladder is still not used much even after the whole season 2 stuff
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 06 2012 00:34 GMT
#1623
On January 06 2012 09:29 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 09:27 WhiteDog wrote:
On January 06 2012 09:20 Shiv. wrote:
On January 06 2012 09:04 Redox wrote:
On January 06 2012 08:45 Shiv. wrote:
On January 06 2012 08:44 mr_tolkien wrote:
Cassiocelote too good. I don't see TSM winning if Oce has Cassio.

Generally speaking, I disagree because while Oce has games where he carries the crap out of his team, he tends to derp a lot once he is ahead, at least that's my take on him. I just generally dislike the kid though, so that might be biased.

Why the fuck is OddOne derping so hard btw?

I am guessing you are basing you opinion on solo q / team q games though.
Ocelote is one of these players that plays his best in important games and doesnt focus in solo q.

Mostly, yes. I remember some odd plays from him in tournament matches, too, though. Banshee's first Anivia comes to mind.

I'm by no means saying he is a bad player, I don't think he's the most consistent one, though.

On January 06 2012 09:20 WhiteDog wrote:
Can someone link me the stream ? Seems interesting.

Also, I just made a 3v3 ranked team with some friend, rolled around randoms people, but who do you ban in 3v3 ? we had no ideas.


http://solomid.net/livestream.php?s=74

They finished now, though. They'll scrim empire&SK tomorrow, though.

Thanks bud !

TSM scrimming CLG at 9pm EST (in 1.5 hours). Not sure if it's CLG.NA or CLG.EU, but should be worth a watch.

Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 09:28 daemir wrote:
Regi speaking wisdom, just scrim as much as possible as 5. LoL scene practice is far too much solo q shit, it's not gonna improve team play to just grind solo q whole day every day.

kinda sad how the NA ranked 5s ladder is still not used much even after the whole season 2 stuff

CLG.eu pretty much impossible at that time of the day.
Off-season = best season
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
January 06 2012 00:37 GMT
#1624
On January 06 2012 09:05 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 09:02 tobi9999 wrote:
LB was a bad pick.

LB and Kennen do not belong on the same team :/ and they picked Kennen first.

Jungle singed was horrible though. OddOne didn't gank a single time in the first 15 minutes and Maokai ganked everywhere while farming equally.

LB and kennen can actually work quite well. Kennen takes all the threat off of lb and his ult forces the enemy team to separate: which is exactly what lb wants in order to kill people.


It doesn't work at all. If you don't have solid sustained AP damage on a team or double AoE, then what's going to happen is that the enemy AP carry will build wota and MR and the game is already over. Ocelote completely abused it by literally building wota, revolver, spirit visage, and negatron together. They stood no chance against that, Graves is too low range to do anything to Cassiopeia and singed wasn't tanky that game.

Had they picked Kennen/Karthus Kennen/Morgana, (although they were both banned) it wouldn't have mattered what Ocelote built, he would've been raped by that AP damage.

If they picked Ryze (Which is what I thought they would pick when they muted stream t.t) then they would've done so much better. Although I suppose laning Ryze is really hard against Cassio when you have Singed jungle.
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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
January 06 2012 00:42 GMT
#1625
On January 06 2012 09:37 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 09:05 Two_DoWn wrote:
On January 06 2012 09:02 tobi9999 wrote:
LB was a bad pick.

LB and Kennen do not belong on the same team :/ and they picked Kennen first.

Jungle singed was horrible though. OddOne didn't gank a single time in the first 15 minutes and Maokai ganked everywhere while farming equally.

LB and kennen can actually work quite well. Kennen takes all the threat off of lb and his ult forces the enemy team to separate: which is exactly what lb wants in order to kill people.


It doesn't work at all. If you don't have solid sustained AP damage on a team or double AoE, then what's going to happen is that the enemy AP carry will build wota and MR and the game is already over. Ocelote completely abused it by literally building wota, revolver, spirit visage, and negatron together. They stood no chance against that, Graves is too low range to do anything to Cassiopeia and singed wasn't tanky that game.

Had they picked Kennen/Karthus Kennen/Morgana, (although they were both banned) it wouldn't have mattered what Ocelote built, he would've been raped by that AP damage.

If they picked Ryze (Which is what I thought they would pick when they muted stream t.t) then they would've done so much better. Although I suppose laning Ryze is really hard against Cassio when you have Singed jungle.


Laning Ryze against Cassio is pretty hard in general, regardless of the jungler.
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Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 00:44:29
January 06 2012 00:44 GMT
#1626
On January 06 2012 09:29 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 09:27 WhiteDog wrote:
On January 06 2012 09:20 Shiv. wrote:
On January 06 2012 09:04 Redox wrote:
On January 06 2012 08:45 Shiv. wrote:
On January 06 2012 08:44 mr_tolkien wrote:
Cassiocelote too good. I don't see TSM winning if Oce has Cassio.

Generally speaking, I disagree because while Oce has games where he carries the crap out of his team, he tends to derp a lot once he is ahead, at least that's my take on him. I just generally dislike the kid though, so that might be biased.

Why the fuck is OddOne derping so hard btw?

I am guessing you are basing you opinion on solo q / team q games though.
Ocelote is one of these players that plays his best in important games and doesnt focus in solo q.

Mostly, yes. I remember some odd plays from him in tournament matches, too, though. Banshee's first Anivia comes to mind.

I'm by no means saying he is a bad player, I don't think he's the most consistent one, though.

On January 06 2012 09:20 WhiteDog wrote:
Can someone link me the stream ? Seems interesting.

Also, I just made a 3v3 ranked team with some friend, rolled around randoms people, but who do you ban in 3v3 ? we had no ideas.


http://solomid.net/livestream.php?s=74

They finished now, though. They'll scrim empire&SK tomorrow, though.

Thanks bud !

TSM scrimming CLG at 9pm EST (in 1.5 hours). Not sure if it's CLG.NA or CLG.EU, but should be worth a watch.

Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 09:28 daemir wrote:
Regi speaking wisdom, just scrim as much as possible as 5. LoL scene practice is far too much solo q shit, it's not gonna improve team play to just grind solo q whole day every day.

kinda sad how the NA ranked 5s ladder is still not used much even after the whole season 2 stuff

OddOne's stream says 8pm EST now, which would be 2am for me. I consider staying up that long, fuck university. But does anyone know when they actually DO scrim now?

Edit: NVM, it's 1:44 already and I doubt they'll finish that soloQ game in 16 minutes.
currently rooting for myself.
HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
January 06 2012 00:44 GMT
#1627
How do I deal with yorick top? I feel like I did ok, but I couldn't really trade with him as Riven.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 01:07:28
January 06 2012 01:05 GMT
#1628
On January 06 2012 09:44 HeroHenry wrote:
How do I deal with yorick top? I feel like I did ok, but I couldn't really trade with him as Riven.

Cho can shrug off his harass quite easily due to his passive, I feel like Renekton beats him and while I think about it, Trundle with his Q should have a good time against him aswell.
currently rooting for myself.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 06 2012 01:08 GMT
#1629
I have laned a few Yoricks as Irelia. Its not that bad. You heal off of ghouls so I really think this lane turns into a farm fest in the end.

lmao @ Regi Rainman and TOO in a ranked game together. Legendary Reg 17/2.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 01:28:48
January 06 2012 01:27 GMT
#1630
TOO and Regi trying out exp runes I think in a custom game. Oh is it a 2v2? Regi laning vs Xpecial.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 06 2012 01:31 GMT
#1631
On January 06 2012 10:27 BlackMagister wrote:
TOO and Regi trying out exp runes I think in a custom game. Oh is it a 2v2? Regi laning vs Xpecial.

Level 5 before 5 minutes and off a single jungle clear, has to back after red though. I think he might pull it off if he has a strong leash and does golems before red, though.
currently rooting for myself.
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 01:34:30
January 06 2012 01:33 GMT
#1632
Wonder if they're just going to try the exp runes with Zilean. We'll see when they scrim CLG. Or when they duo q I guess. CLG not doing the scrim.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 06 2012 01:34 GMT
#1633
On January 06 2012 10:33 BlackMagister wrote:
Wonder if they're just going to try the exp runes with Zilean. We'll see when they scrim CLG.

Unrelated: ''Doublelift just got a game. I think we just got baylife'd.''
currently rooting for myself.
danana
Profile Joined March 2011
United States321 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 01:52:15
January 06 2012 01:51 GMT
#1634
On January 06 2012 09:37 tobi9999 wrote:
Had they picked Kennen/Karthus Kennen/Morgana, (although they were both banned) it wouldn't have mattered what Ocelote built, he would've been raped by that AP damage.


What's different about Karthus or Morgana versus Leblanc that makes Kennen + Leblanc ok, but Kennen + Karthus/Morgana too much? I've always found Leblanc's pure damage output much scarier, but I'm pretty bad so I'd like to know what I'm missing.
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 02:01:33
January 06 2012 01:59 GMT
#1635
On January 06 2012 10:51 danana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 09:37 tobi9999 wrote:
Had they picked Kennen/Karthus Kennen/Morgana, (although they were both banned) it wouldn't have mattered what Ocelote built, he would've been raped by that AP damage.


What's different about Karthus or Morgana versus Leblanc that makes Kennen + Leblanc ok, but Kennen + Karthus/Morgana too much? I've always found Leblanc's pure damage output much scarier, but I'm pretty bad so I'd like to know what I'm missing.

Leblanc's main problem is that late game she can't really get through to her target because it's sort of awkward to land her spells when there's tons of people around. Karthus/Morgana don't have that problem since they hit everyone.

It's basically just a classic AoE comp where you stack their ults/Defile and everything inside the circle gets raped. Karthus and Morgana also synergize better with WotA too.
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Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 02:10:42
January 06 2012 02:10 GMT
#1636
On January 06 2012 10:51 danana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 09:37 tobi9999 wrote:
Had they picked Kennen/Karthus Kennen/Morgana, (although they were both banned) it wouldn't have mattered what Ocelote built, he would've been raped by that AP damage.


What's different about Karthus or Morgana versus Leblanc that makes Kennen + Leblanc ok, but Kennen + Karthus/Morgana too much? I've always found Leblanc's pure damage output much scarier, but I'm pretty bad so I'd like to know what I'm missing.

Kennen and Morgana press R and run at people, killing (and stunning) bitches left and right while LeBlanc has no AoE or sustained damage at all.
currently rooting for myself.
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 06 2012 02:47 GMT
#1637
Just going to say it again: please give Viktor a go. He rapes so many midlanes and his poke is freaking insane.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 06 2012 02:54 GMT
#1638
Ok guys, new question.

Who is the most boring champ to play in Leagues?

I vote:

1.Yorick, no skillshots, spam little ghouls that you dont control. No combos and ult is basically just more autoattacking
2. Mundo, yeah, you throw cleavers, not enough to save him from 3 other skills that are all passive boosts
3. Skarner, You get a mini moment of glory every time ult is up, but other than that his entire gameplay consists of mashing QWQWQWQWQWQWQWQ, still OP
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Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 03:05:23
January 06 2012 03:00 GMT
#1639
On January 06 2012 10:51 danana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 09:37 tobi9999 wrote:
Had they picked Kennen/Karthus Kennen/Morgana, (although they were both banned) it wouldn't have mattered what Ocelote built, he would've been raped by that AP damage.


What's different about Karthus or Morgana versus Leblanc that makes Kennen + Leblanc ok, but Kennen + Karthus/Morgana too much? I've always found Leblanc's pure damage output much scarier, but I'm pretty bad so I'd like to know what I'm missing.


Its that aoe damage and cc in teamfights. Slowing/stunning everything while doing damage to everything. Leblanc will kill 1 person, but then have cooldowns.

Orianna works in that really well too. Shield Kennen who flashes in, then pull their team right into the aoe with the ult and then just keep doing aoe damage. Just did that in a game. 2 really fast aces in a row, which ended the game. Our enemies didnt have any answer to that.



On January 06 2012 11:54 sob3k wrote:
Ok guys, new question.

Who is the most boring champ to play in Leagues?

I vote:

1.Yorick, no skillshots, spam little ghouls that you dont control. No combos and ult is basically just more autoattacking
2. Mundo, yeah, you throw cleavers, not enough to save him from 3 other skills that are all passive boosts
3. Skarner, You get a mini moment of glory every time ult is up, but other than that his entire gameplay consists of mashing QWQWQWQWQWQWQWQ, still OP



Caitlyn. You just right click on stuff until it dies.
Nasus. Farm farm farm.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 06 2012 03:03 GMT
#1640
On January 06 2012 11:54 sob3k wrote:
Ok guys, new question.

Who is the most boring champ to play in Leagues?

I vote:

1.Yorick, no skillshots, spam little ghouls that you dont control. No combos and ult is basically just more autoattacking
2. Mundo, yeah, you throw cleavers, not enough to save him from 3 other skills that are all passive boosts
3. Skarner, You get a mini moment of glory every time ult is up, but other than that his entire gameplay consists of mashing QWQWQWQWQWQWQWQ, still OP

Tryndamere or Udyr. Maybe Sona.
currently rooting for myself.
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