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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 06 2012 03:04 GMT
#1641
Sona is probably most boring, with least depth. But she fucking wins games still.
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Brees
Profile Joined January 2010
Marshall Islands3404 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 03:15:17
January 06 2012 03:12 GMT
#1642
for me most boring is blitzcrank. its predictable how the game is gonna go before you even play it. If you hook some one everyone spams LOLOLLOL!L!1111 in chat and if you miss hook everyone spams LOL THIS BLITZ

you are based around 1 skill whether you like it or not, its like you dont even have the other 3.


runner-up is taric, who has 2 skills technically but mostly one. hurp durp get my movespeed runes and run up and stun you every once in a while. use my 5 hp heal sometimes too
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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 06 2012 03:15 GMT
#1643
On January 06 2012 12:12 Brees wrote:
for me most boring is blitzcrank. its predictable how the game is gonna go before you even play it. If you hook some one everyone spams LOLOLLOL!L!1111 in chat and if you miss hook everyone spams LOL THIS BLITZ

you are based around 1 skill whether you like it or not, its like you dont even have the other 3.

but thats why its rewarding to get good at it and win everything?
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 06 2012 03:18 GMT
#1644
ashe more boring imo, 2/4 abilities do anything.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 03:19:36
January 06 2012 03:19 GMT
#1645
Shen is boring

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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 03:21:16
January 06 2012 03:19 GMT
#1646
Why has nobody said Sion yet?

On January 06 2012 12:18 turdburgler wrote:
ashe more boring imo, 2/4 abilities do anything.

Hawkshot is actually fairly critical. I wouldn't say it counts as "nothing". And she has a global skillshot. Compared to Sion who has 1 point and click spell, 1 PbAoE, and 2 steroids that are usually inconsequential to the way he's normally played.
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starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
January 06 2012 03:19 GMT
#1647
On January 06 2012 11:54 sob3k wrote:
Ok guys, new question.

Who is the most boring champ to play in Leagues?

I vote:

1.Yorick, no skillshots, spam little ghouls that you dont control. No combos and ult is basically just more autoattacking
2. Mundo, yeah, you throw cleavers, not enough to save him from 3 other skills that are all passive boosts
3. Skarner, You get a mini moment of glory every time ult is up, but other than that his entire gameplay consists of mashing QWQWQWQWQWQWQWQ, still OP

I think Nasus is pretty boring

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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 06 2012 03:20 GMT
#1648
On January 06 2012 11:54 sob3k wrote:
Ok guys, new question.

Who is the most boring champ to play in Leagues?

I vote:

1.Yorick, no skillshots, spam little ghouls that you dont control. No combos and ult is basically just more autoattacking
2. Mundo, yeah, you throw cleavers, not enough to save him from 3 other skills that are all passive boosts
3. Skarner, You get a mini moment of glory every time ult is up, but other than that his entire gameplay consists of mashing QWQWQWQWQWQWQWQ, still OP


Yorick, Soraka, Shen
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turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 06 2012 03:21 GMT
#1649
On January 06 2012 08:47 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 07:53 Alzadar wrote:
This a somewhat belated reply, but I remember someone saying earlier in the thread that Gold per 10 quintessences were the standard for supports. Why is that? They seem pretty god-damn awful if you look at gold value, and I would only consider them if the alternative was not having enough gold to buy wards (which isn't the case).

Philosopher Stone gives 5 gp10, 3 hp5 and 5mp5 for 185g, making the gold per 10 portion essentially free, since the other stats are more than worth 185g.
Heart of Gold gives 5 gp10, 70hp for 350g, so the gold per 10 portion costs 165g.
Avarice Blade gives 5 gp10, 4% crit for 350g, so the gold per 10 portion costs 150g.
Lucky Pick gives 5 gp10, 5 AP for 330g, so the gold per 10 portion is about 280g.

So on average a single point in the gold/10 stats costs only 30 gold. How the hell is that worth a quintessence slot? Armor quints by comparison are worth 75g, AP quints are 107.

Ignoring that for a minute, with the gold quints, it takes until the 17 minute mark to afford to buy as much Armor as you could have had from the very beginning with Armor quints. Given that lanes are generally decided in that 17 minutes, it seems the height of foolishness to make such an investment.


You're looking at this the wrong way. Ignore gold values and how much it would cost a player to purchase the equivalent amount of Armor/AP because that's largely irrelevant. Supports are primarily concerned with finishing their critical items as fast as possible in an environment where they are guaranteed nothing outside of a passive 84g/min (96 with full greed).

In that situation gp10 Quints effectively increase your gold income by 20%. It doesn't matter that Armor or AP is technically worth more because you can't build the Armor or AP into the critical items you're aiming for.

That's not to say that gp10 are irreplaceable, just that they're very strong in a situation where your early game is largely going to be punctuated by never CSing.


also worth mentioning that in most situations dying pre 6 meant you went full retard and its nothing to do with your runes. but if you have gp10 runes as support you speed up your other gp10. getting philo stone 1 min early is 30 free gold.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 06 2012 03:23 GMT
#1650
On January 06 2012 12:19 TheYango wrote:
Why has nobody said Sion yet?

Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 12:18 turdburgler wrote:
ashe more boring imo, 2/4 abilities do anything.

Hawkshot is actually fairly critical. I wouldn't say it counts as "nothing". And she has a global skillshot. Compared to Sion who has 1 point and click spell, 1 PbAoE, and 2 steroids that are usually inconsequential to the way he's normally played.


but it doesnt feel "fun" to hawkshot, even if giving sight is huge utility, even her aoe doesnt feel fun. it doesnt feel physical or painful, it feels stupid and boring. i dont know if its the sound or the look, but graves buckshot just feels more satisfying to hit.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 06 2012 03:25 GMT
#1651
On January 06 2012 12:23 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 12:19 TheYango wrote:
Why has nobody said Sion yet?

On January 06 2012 12:18 turdburgler wrote:
ashe more boring imo, 2/4 abilities do anything.

Hawkshot is actually fairly critical. I wouldn't say it counts as "nothing". And she has a global skillshot. Compared to Sion who has 1 point and click spell, 1 PbAoE, and 2 steroids that are usually inconsequential to the way he's normally played.


but it doesnt feel "fun" to hawkshot, even if giving sight is huge utility, even her aoe doesnt feel fun. it doesnt feel physical or painful, it feels stupid and boring. i dont know if its the sound or the look, but graves buckshot just feels more satisfying to hit.


Yeah, that's pretty strange imo.

There's little different between Volley and Buckshot but Buckshot is infinitely more satisifying for some reason...
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 06 2012 03:29 GMT
#1652
On January 06 2012 12:25 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 12:23 turdburgler wrote:
On January 06 2012 12:19 TheYango wrote:
Why has nobody said Sion yet?

On January 06 2012 12:18 turdburgler wrote:
ashe more boring imo, 2/4 abilities do anything.

Hawkshot is actually fairly critical. I wouldn't say it counts as "nothing". And she has a global skillshot. Compared to Sion who has 1 point and click spell, 1 PbAoE, and 2 steroids that are usually inconsequential to the way he's normally played.


but it doesnt feel "fun" to hawkshot, even if giving sight is huge utility, even her aoe doesnt feel fun. it doesnt feel physical or painful, it feels stupid and boring. i dont know if its the sound or the look, but graves buckshot just feels more satisfying to hit.


Yeah, that's pretty strange imo.

There's little different between Volley and Buckshot but Buckshot is infinitely more satisifying for some reason...

Sound effects yo~
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pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
January 06 2012 03:32 GMT
#1653
Ok, I deduced from the above responses that LoL is mostly boring.
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-06 03:38:12
January 06 2012 03:34 GMT
#1654
On January 06 2012 12:25 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 12:23 turdburgler wrote:
On January 06 2012 12:19 TheYango wrote:
Why has nobody said Sion yet?

On January 06 2012 12:18 turdburgler wrote:
ashe more boring imo, 2/4 abilities do anything.

Hawkshot is actually fairly critical. I wouldn't say it counts as "nothing". And she has a global skillshot. Compared to Sion who has 1 point and click spell, 1 PbAoE, and 2 steroids that are usually inconsequential to the way he's normally played.


but it doesnt feel "fun" to hawkshot, even if giving sight is huge utility, even her aoe doesnt feel fun. it doesnt feel physical or painful, it feels stupid and boring. i dont know if its the sound or the look, but graves buckshot just feels more satisfying to hit.


Yeah, that's pretty strange imo.

There's little different between Volley and Buckshot but Buckshot is infinitely more satisifying for some reason...



I love watching ashes arrow travelling across the entire map and then shouting BOOOOOM when it hits. Definately not boring. Caitlyns ult on the other hand is like "oh he is low, guess I'll try it. Oh they blocked it. Meh."
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 06 2012 03:37 GMT
#1655
Lee Sin is definitely the most fun champ for me to play. Most boring would be Cait.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
January 06 2012 03:39 GMT
#1656
On January 06 2012 12:37 koreasilver wrote:
Lee Sin is definitely the most fun champ for me to play. Most boring would be Cait.


Cupcakes too yummy to be most boring.

Morgana is the most boring in lane, yet her ult is the most satisfying if you hit a 5 man stun.
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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
January 06 2012 03:42 GMT
#1657
Sona easy to play in the sense you can do okay with her without actually paying attention to the passive. Honestly I think Sona is very fun because I get to run at folks and hit them with Q and try to zone. Most boring support is Soraka because you can try to be annoying and poke at folks but you don't really do much damage and it's just as rewarding to sit in brush and chill most of the time.

If you are playing supports passive I feel you have only yourself to blame. Battle Sona es #1

Boring champion? The ones I hate playing. So most of the Ap's.

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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
January 06 2012 03:44 GMT
#1658
On January 06 2012 12:34 h3r1n6 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2012 12:25 NeoIllusions wrote:
On January 06 2012 12:23 turdburgler wrote:
On January 06 2012 12:19 TheYango wrote:
Why has nobody said Sion yet?

On January 06 2012 12:18 turdburgler wrote:
ashe more boring imo, 2/4 abilities do anything.

Hawkshot is actually fairly critical. I wouldn't say it counts as "nothing". And she has a global skillshot. Compared to Sion who has 1 point and click spell, 1 PbAoE, and 2 steroids that are usually inconsequential to the way he's normally played.


but it doesnt feel "fun" to hawkshot, even if giving sight is huge utility, even her aoe doesnt feel fun. it doesnt feel physical or painful, it feels stupid and boring. i dont know if its the sound or the look, but graves buckshot just feels more satisfying to hit.


Yeah, that's pretty strange imo.

There's little different between Volley and Buckshot but Buckshot is infinitely more satisifying for some reason...



I love watching ashes arrow travelling across the entire map and then shouting BOOOOOM when it hits. Definately not boring. Caitlyns ult on the other hand is like "oh he is low, guess I'll try it. Oh they blocked it. Meh."


Volley. Not ECA son.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
January 06 2012 03:44 GMT
#1659
Dude I actually really like playing Soraka, Shen, and Sion

Soraka: I love E, targeting it well wins games. I just feel like the biggest bamf when Ryze jumps into a teamfight and I just silence that motherfucker for like 2 days, also saving people from across the map, and barely saving the AD from massive gank by unloading Heal, ult and summoner heal in one giant healing alphastrike.

Shen: Crossmap saves also supalegit, I have good map awareness so I get alot. He doesn't have many skills that do much but landing one perfect taunt on all 3 of their DPS is so powerful that I love playing him. Actually like my favorite char. People just try to use his ult to save people at the last second, which is not how you should use it 99% of the time. Porting in early in good situations can reverse ganks hilariously.

Sion: Simple as fuck kit, but actually has alot of depth to playing him well because you have to time the stuns and shields perfectly to avoid damage based on your laning opponents cooldowns and what not, plus you get to decide when to roam all over the map and win all 3 lanes. Yeah sometimes he's faceroll but sometimes it can be very tricky matchups, plus he rapes face and that adds to the fun.
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
January 06 2012 03:49 GMT
#1660
I find Ryze really boring to play. He's just not very dynamic. His build is pretty much the same every game, and he has 3 spells that are used the same way, and his ult has no oomph.
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