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[Patch 1.0.0.131: Viktor] General Discussion - Page 64

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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 04 2012 16:18 GMT
#1261
On January 05 2012 01:05 NotSorry wrote:
How do you deal with graves/soraka just shoving bot lane as a Vayne/X, seems like I spend 20mins csing under a tower which is putting me 10-15cs behind and if I step forward I'm just gotta take aoe + silence for 70-80% hp

Spend 20 minutes CSing under tower, hope you have some kind of cc or burst on your support, get a pink ward or oracles on your support and ask your jungler kindly to apply pressure.

Not much you can do about it in a vacuum though.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
January 04 2012 16:20 GMT
#1262
vayne boots of swiftness more bought than QSS

caitlyn bloodrazor and black cleaver more bought than QSS

ezreal manamune more bought than LW

ashe boots of swiftness more bought than bloodthirst and LW

ww and pantheon have berserker greaves as #1 bought item

what the hell
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
January 04 2012 16:25 GMT
#1263
Recommended items are strong.
God Bless
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 04 2012 16:26 GMT
#1264
for vayne vs graves/cait you have to swallow your pride and survive until you get strong
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 04 2012 16:33 GMT
#1265
On January 05 2012 01:20 Sandster wrote:
vayne boots of swiftness more bought than QSS

caitlyn bloodrazor and black cleaver more bought than QSS

ezreal manamune more bought than LW

ashe boots of swiftness more bought than bloodthirst and LW

ww and pantheon have berserker greaves as #1 bought item


Granted, it's at all ELOs, all servers, and obviously items like boots are going to be bought more often than lategame items considering all the stomps.
As for zerkers WW... well, I saw someone berate his WW teammate in /all because he rushed BR (which is fine) instead of stacking AS and lifesteal to use the passive. Nearly got flamed when I tried to politely tell him of how good cdr/tanky WW is.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 16:41:58
January 04 2012 16:36 GMT
#1266
On January 04 2012 23:56 phyvo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 21:23 Shiv. wrote:
On January 04 2012 21:12 RogerX wrote:
I agree with those points but I want to emphasize more on the:

Spamming laugh command/taunt.
Don't you feel thats a bit too sensitive? I mean look at Singed's champion spotlight he literally gave advice to laugh your solotop opponents face off. Heh.

That's true. Using an in-built emote should not be a bannable offense in my opinion. And if I recall correctly, it isn't, if you don't simultaneously (and purposely.) feed your ass off.


Spamming /l /t etc is completely bannable in the same sense spamming "BRO" in chat is bannable. Even if it isn't insulting (which it can be in the right context i.e. after a death) it reaches the point where it's unbearably annoying for most people.

Spamming autoattacks on me should be completely bannable aswell , it's unbearably annoying for me when it happens. If you can't deal with BUILT IN emotes then people can either disable their audio or stop playing.
Or complain to riot to remove them. It annoys me aswell when the enemy jungler camps my lane, should be bannable aswell because it's unbearably annoying and the only thing I can do is afk at fountain, doesn't matter if it's a part of the game, just like emotes.
Chat is one thing because riot can't exactly control it, they put the emotes in the game themselves however.
On January 05 2012 01:20 Sandster wrote:
vayne boots of swiftness more bought than QSS

caitlyn bloodrazor and black cleaver more bought than QSS

ezreal manamune more bought than LW

ashe boots of swiftness more bought than bloodthirst and LW

ww and pantheon have berserker greaves as #1 bought item

what the hell

Zerker greaves are actually pretty good on pant, situational but they're def not bad.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 04 2012 16:47 GMT
#1267
I just noticed something extremely weird when watching some of stonewall's jungle videos. In his latest videos (Amumu, Pantheon) he's getting more exp and gold than is normal. Specifically:

50g and 142 exp from the Giant Wolf (normally 44g and 128exp).
138 exp from the Wraith (normally 105 exp).
48g and 141 exp from the Golem (normally 40g and 117exp).

The smaller creeps and buff camps were all yielding their normal values.

I looked back through a number of his other videos and it isn't consistent, some of them have the increased values and some of them don't. He always uses the normal SR map and I don't see the LoLReplay controls in any of his videos, so I don't know what's going on, but it's definitely odd.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 04 2012 16:49 GMT
#1268
I get zerkers on ww when the enemy team has no cc. No reason not to really.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 04 2012 16:50 GMT
#1269
Does banking include exp rewards, or is it only gold?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TiBe
Profile Joined November 2009
Mexico200 Posts
January 04 2012 16:57 GMT
#1270
On January 04 2012 21:19 Arevall wrote:
Gee. I'm so tired of playing normal... 4 levels to go!

Edit: Well, I suck so I'd probably be low ELO anyway



I recommend you to play more normal games, so you dont suck at ranked, especially the first games when you can win much more points..
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 04 2012 17:00 GMT
#1271
On January 05 2012 01:49 Two_DoWn wrote:
I get zerkers on ww when the enemy team has no cc. No reason not to really.

There's always Tabi, tabi so good.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 17:01:01
January 04 2012 17:00 GMT
#1272
On January 05 2012 01:57 TiBe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2012 21:19 Arevall wrote:
Gee. I'm so tired of playing normal... 4 levels to go!

Edit: Well, I suck so I'd probably be low ELO anyway



I recommend you to play more normal games, so you dont suck at ranked, especially the first games when you can win much more points..


Indeed take the extra time in norm, and rock those placement matches for an easy 1500-1600 or you're going to be stuck in elo hell til you win the lottery. Got my wife's account to 1600+ but can't even get mine above 1350, it's all in the placement matches.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-04 17:07:05
January 04 2012 17:06 GMT
#1273
On January 05 2012 01:50 Alaric wrote:
Does banking include exp rewards, or is it only gold?


It does.

If you're asking in relation to my "WTF is going on with jungle gold/exp?" question, then banking is irrelevant since 1) stonewall is killing at least one of the camps in question the moment it spawns and 2) banking isn't enabled until 3:30 game time, and even then there's the 45 second delay to get through before accumulation begins.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 04 2012 17:07 GMT
#1274
On January 05 2012 02:06 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 01:50 Alaric wrote:
Does banking include exp rewards, or is it only gold?


It does.

If you're asking in relation to my "WTF is going on with jungle gold/exp?" question, then banking is irrelevant since 1) stonewall is killing at least one of the camps in question the moment it spawns and 2) banking isn't enabled until 3:30 game time, and even then there's the 45 second delay to get through before accumulation begins.

Do you know what runes/masteries he used?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
January 04 2012 17:08 GMT
#1275
On January 05 2012 02:00 NotSorry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 01:57 TiBe wrote:
On January 04 2012 21:19 Arevall wrote:
Gee. I'm so tired of playing normal... 4 levels to go!

Edit: Well, I suck so I'd probably be low ELO anyway



I recommend you to play more normal games, so you dont suck at ranked, especially the first games when you can win much more points..


Indeed take the extra time in norm, and rock those placement matches for an easy 1500-1600 or you're going to be stuck in elo hell til you win the lottery. Got my wife's account to 1600+ but can't even get mine above 1350, it's all in the placement matches.


or do it like me and get 3 leavers in the first 4 games you play ranked. made a good impression on me lol

but either way:
if you care about winning and your ELO, then play normals until you think you have the ability to carry games a lot.
if you do not care about your ELO, but how good you play overall, then start playing ranked games immediately. Ranked games are in general more demanding, feel different, you have another mindset and people are supposed to be better than in normal games
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
January 04 2012 17:08 GMT
#1276
On January 05 2012 02:00 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 01:49 Two_DoWn wrote:
I get zerkers on ww when the enemy team has no cc. No reason not to really.

There's always Tabi, tabi so good.

Even Sorcs for CDRWick.
currently rooting for myself.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 04 2012 17:21 GMT
#1277
On January 05 2012 02:07 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2012 02:06 Seuss wrote:
On January 05 2012 01:50 Alaric wrote:
Does banking include exp rewards, or is it only gold?


It does.

If you're asking in relation to my "WTF is going on with jungle gold/exp?" question, then banking is irrelevant since 1) stonewall is killing at least one of the camps in question the moment it spawns and 2) banking isn't enabled until 3:30 game time, and even then there's the 45 second delay to get through before accumulation begins.

Do you know what runes/masteries he used?


No exp runes/masteries, not that it would make sense even if he had them. Exact masteries are posted with each video, but there wasn't any obvious correlation.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
billy5000
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States865 Posts
January 04 2012 17:22 GMT
#1278
solo top gp opens regrowth pot vs me riven @1600. trolls these days
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder, 'Why, why, why?' Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand. Vonnegut
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 04 2012 17:24 GMT
#1279
On January 05 2012 02:22 billy5000 wrote:
solo top gp opens regrowth pot vs me riven @1600. trolls these days

Had a nasus open regrowth MANAPOT against a GP once, I almost cried. He lost that lane so incredibly hard lol.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
January 04 2012 17:49 GMT
#1280
Perhaps my opponents were shit, perhaps people just need to get to know how to counter him, but I've been raping today with Viktor ^^ The poke from E is quite easy to land, and combined with Q gives huge burst early on, and once E's augmented the poke is insane. W is somewhat tricky to use but is a great defence against divers or to block of paths, and the ult is quite powerfull in it's own right, altho not too insane, its basically a silence-aoe with a weak dot afterwards. Still, I find him incredibly strong so far, and I'm not that good a player. Perhaps he stays at this lvl and as such can't perform at the high levels of play but damn I'm glad i got him ^^ (mid MU's i had today were Lux, Annie, Xerath, Ahri, Fizz)
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
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