• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:49
CET 17:49
KST 01:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon!18$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship5[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage3Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win9
StarCraft 2
General
Starcraft, SC2, HoTS, WC3, returning to Blizzcon! RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8) TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting
Tourneys
$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage Practice Partners (Official) [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1886 users

[Patch 1.0.0.131: Viktor] General Discussion - Page 184

Forum Index > LoL General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 182 183 184 185 186 235 Next
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
January 12 2012 19:12 GMT
#3661
On January 13 2012 03:46 JackDino wrote:
The heck is pulling a jiji?



Eating a cupcake around 5 enemy champions. Dem Cupcakes man, make Jiji too fat.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 12 2012 19:13 GMT
#3662
His udyr build is REALLY bad.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 12 2012 19:14 GMT
#3663
On January 13 2012 04:12 Shikyo wrote:
21k people are watching hotshotgg failing horribly like 5 times in a row and blaming his team =S


i dont understand how this is different from every other day?
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
January 12 2012 19:15 GMT
#3664
wtf why is Sypher replacing iG.

If anything CLGeu should.
Go go Alliance.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 12 2012 19:16 GMT
#3665
On January 13 2012 04:14 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 04:12 Shikyo wrote:
21k people are watching hotshotgg failing horribly like 5 times in a row and blaming his team =S


i dont understand how this is different from every other day?

On other days he has a notepad open that says he's asleep or he's drawing some crap in paint.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 12 2012 19:16 GMT
#3666
On January 13 2012 04:09 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
SK replaces AL.mTw after troubles between AbsoluteLegends and mTw. Furthermore Curse will replace APictureOfAGoose who have two members that could not come to Kiev. Chinese team iG had to be replaced by French Sypher due to no other Chinese team being available.


http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/kiev/

For IEM Kiev.

Real tourney. TSM has no excuse if they lose that tourney.

An already slumping dignitas without their best player, a gutted SK, Crs.

Only 2 teams I can see even coming close to competing are M5 and Sypher, and Sypher is a b teir euro team and M5 has only looked good in scrims.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
January 12 2012 19:28 GMT
#3667
On January 13 2012 04:15 dooraven wrote:
wtf why is Sypher replacing iG.

If anything CLGeu should.


They have it right their in the announcement. CLGeu was DQ'd along with mtw when they couldn't come to an agreement over winnings/ranking points. I doubt ESL would bring back CLGeu to Kiev even if they are available.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
January 12 2012 19:54 GMT
#3668
I agree, however I just find it funny that sypher is going, sypher's old team quit and now it's an entirely new team.
Go go Alliance.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 12 2012 19:55 GMT
#3669
On January 13 2012 04:54 dooraven wrote:
I agree, however I just find it funny that sypher is going, sypher's old team quit and now it's an entirely new team.

A team game is not based around players but... Teams. Makes sense :p
The legend of Darien lives on
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 12 2012 19:58 GMT
#3670
On January 12 2012 20:33 RogerX wrote:
Well I agree, we'll just have to see his numbers when he becomes released into the wild.

well since his ult scales off AP and AD im curious to how his new build will be.

lol something metaish with a mix of AP perhaps?
lantern, Warmogs, atmas, ryalis, rageblade

trololol? idk, i can't think of an efficent build


The thread moves faster than I can reverse engineer numbers, so pages have elapsed since the Jax discussion. However, here are the numbers on Jax' ult as they were in the spotlight.

20/35/50 AP/AD base, +20% of AP as additional AP and +20% of Bonus AD as additional AD. Bonuses are determined at cast time and do not update as buffs/procs fade.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 12 2012 20:01 GMT
#3671
On January 13 2012 04:58 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 20:33 RogerX wrote:
Well I agree, we'll just have to see his numbers when he becomes released into the wild.

well since his ult scales off AP and AD im curious to how his new build will be.

lol something metaish with a mix of AP perhaps?
lantern, Warmogs, atmas, ryalis, rageblade

trololol? idk, i can't think of an efficent build


The thread moves faster than I can reverse engineer numbers, so pages have elapsed since the Jax discussion. However, here are the numbers on Jax' ult as they were in the spotlight.

20/35/50 AP/AD base, +20% of AP as additional AP and +20% of Bonus AD as additional AD. Bonuses are determined at cast time and do not update as buffs/procs fade.

That ain't bad at all. Probably not strong enough to warrant building straight damage over tanky dps/bruiser/metablargl/whatever you want to call it, but pretty damn good. Do you happen to know the CD on it?

Other than that, I kind of want to know the actual numbers on his new Counterstrike. I'm not on the bandwagon of "worst change ever", but they'll have to be pretty careful of making it too bad/good.
It's your boy Guzma!
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 20:07:23
January 12 2012 20:06 GMT
#3672
I don't play GP, but Wicked's GP seems a bit weird. He doesn't level raise morale and doesn't use parrrley much for last hitting. I suppose he has better sustain this way by just harassing with parrrley and healing with orange. Although even weird in last game he would first hit the creeps with parrrley then auto to last hit. I suppose a mistake, but he did quite a few times.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
January 12 2012 20:07 GMT
#3673
So I just wanted to re-iterate: Fuck Poppy. Just doing the math to figure out how much damage you need to do to kill her makes me angry.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 12 2012 20:09 GMT
#3674
On January 13 2012 05:07 Niton wrote:
So I just wanted to re-iterate: Fuck Poppy. Just doing the math to figure out how much damage you need to do to kill her makes me angry.

Good thing no one plays her because her laning is meh.

Dominion, on the other hand....
It's your boy Guzma!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 20:16:19
January 12 2012 20:14 GMT
#3675
On January 13 2012 05:01 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 04:58 Seuss wrote:
On January 12 2012 20:33 RogerX wrote:
Well I agree, we'll just have to see his numbers when he becomes released into the wild.

well since his ult scales off AP and AD im curious to how his new build will be.

lol something metaish with a mix of AP perhaps?
lantern, Warmogs, atmas, ryalis, rageblade

trololol? idk, i can't think of an efficent build


The thread moves faster than I can reverse engineer numbers, so pages have elapsed since the Jax discussion. However, here are the numbers on Jax' ult as they were in the spotlight.

20/35/50 AP/AD base, +20% of AP as additional AP and +20% of Bonus AD as additional AD. Bonuses are determined at cast time and do not update as buffs/procs fade.

That ain't bad at all. Probably not strong enough to warrant building straight damage over tanky dps/bruiser/metablargl/whatever you want to call it, but pretty damn good. Do you happen to know the CD on it?

Other than that, I kind of want to know the actual numbers on his new Counterstrike. I'm not on the bandwagon of "worst change ever", but they'll have to be pretty careful of making it too bad/good.


The CD looks to be 75s at level 12 and 60s at level 18, so I assume it's probably 90s at level 6.

The new Counterstrike reads to me like Jax can win exchanges at will against Tryndamere and Udyr, but I don't know of any other solo top champions who primarily auto-attack.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 20:22:52
January 12 2012 20:18 GMT
#3676
On January 13 2012 03:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 02:05 TheYango wrote:
On January 13 2012 02:00 mr_tolkien wrote:
On top of my head, I'd say Cassio could make good use of it, ofc Nidalee, Gragas, Fizz, Ahri, maybe Orianna, Swain, Annie, and I'm surely forgetting some...
For a single slot and 3k5 it's a wonderful item if you land 2-3 charged autos in a teamfight. But... You do it after raba :D

Why would Cassio want it? Performing an autoattack interrupts your ability to cast, and Cassio's pretty much always going to have a spell she's going to want to cast rather than autoattack.

Well, since Cassio is a sustain damage caster based on AP, inserting charged autos in her damage output could help her... Maybe ? Never played her but it doesn't sound to crazy since she is like an AD carry, and there are a few AD carries who make good use of Triforce :D


For Cassio the time spent on all spell cds are used to reposition. You're almost never standing still spamming abilities, but either kiting away or chasing. Similarly, no one stands still against Cassio; they either are trying to catch up to kill you, or run away so they don't die. If they stand still one of you is playing it wrong.

Occasionally you do get an autoattack but there's no reason to get Lichbane over the more important items, including: WOTA, Rylai, Deathcap, Void Staff. I've never had time where I've thought "man if I had Lichbane and he would have died" over one of those 4, and for a 6th slot I'd rather have QSS/GA/RoA.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 12 2012 20:26 GMT
#3677
On January 13 2012 05:14 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 05:01 Requizen wrote:
On January 13 2012 04:58 Seuss wrote:
On January 12 2012 20:33 RogerX wrote:
Well I agree, we'll just have to see his numbers when he becomes released into the wild.

well since his ult scales off AP and AD im curious to how his new build will be.

lol something metaish with a mix of AP perhaps?
lantern, Warmogs, atmas, ryalis, rageblade

trololol? idk, i can't think of an efficent build


The thread moves faster than I can reverse engineer numbers, so pages have elapsed since the Jax discussion. However, here are the numbers on Jax' ult as they were in the spotlight.

20/35/50 AP/AD base, +20% of AP as additional AP and +20% of Bonus AD as additional AD. Bonuses are determined at cast time and do not update as buffs/procs fade.

That ain't bad at all. Probably not strong enough to warrant building straight damage over tanky dps/bruiser/metablargl/whatever you want to call it, but pretty damn good. Do you happen to know the CD on it?

Other than that, I kind of want to know the actual numbers on his new Counterstrike. I'm not on the bandwagon of "worst change ever", but they'll have to be pretty careful of making it too bad/good.


The CD looks to be 75s at level 12 and 60s at level 18, so I assume it's probably 90s at level 6.

The new Counterstrike reads to me like Jax can win exchanges at will against Tryndamere and Udyr, but I don't know of any other solo top champions who primarily auto-attack.

That's a bit longer than other steroid ults, but not too terrible. 75 seconds will be plenty of time mid/late game.

The auto attack bit helps against quite a few top champs. Against Riven, it helps dodge 1-2 passive procs, against GP everything but Parrrley, and of course helps against Kennen's stuns. It's a hard/soft counter to Trynd and Udyr, but will still be pretty strong against the others. Also, it means you can jump on them in their minion wave, hit them once, put up CS, and let their minons power it up for damage.

That said, I'm taking it to the jungle, where it'll be pretty amazing, I think.
It's your boy Guzma!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
January 12 2012 20:29 GMT
#3678
On January 12 2012 03:54 Craton wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Best Legendary Skin

Gentleman Cho'Gath (12)
 
29%

Lion Dance Kog'Maw (7)
 
17%

Brolaf (6)
 
14%

Demonblade Tryndamere (3)
 
7%

Nunu Bot (3)
 
7%

Corporate Mundo (3)
 
7%

Blood Lord Vladimir (2)
 
5%

Piltover Customs Blitzcrank (2)
 
5%

The Magnificent Twisted Fate (2)
 
5%

Astronaut Teemo (1)
 
2%

Firefighter Tristana (1)
 
2%

Annie in Wonderland (0)
 
0%

42 total votes

Your vote: Best Legendary Skin

(Vote): Blood Lord Vladimir
(Vote): Demonblade Tryndamere
(Vote): Nunu Bot
(Vote): Piltover Customs Blitzcrank
(Vote): Lion Dance Kog'Maw
(Vote): Brolaf
(Vote): Astronaut Teemo
(Vote): Annie in Wonderland
(Vote): The Magnificent Twisted Fate
(Vote): Gentleman Cho'Gath
(Vote): Firefighter Tristana
(Vote): Corporate Mundo



Poll: Best Legendary Skin (Continued, VOTE IN ONLY ONE POLL)

Red Baron Corki (2)
 
50%

Alien Invader Heimerdinger (2)
 
50%

4 total votes

Your vote: Best Legendary Skin (Continued, VOTE IN ONLY ONE POLL)

(Vote): Red Baron Corki
(Vote): Alien Invader Heimerdinger



[image loading]

I'm really surprised anyone voted for Red Baron Corki.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
January 12 2012 20:32 GMT
#3679
On January 13 2012 05:29 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 03:54 Craton wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Best Legendary Skin

Gentleman Cho'Gath (12)
 
29%

Lion Dance Kog'Maw (7)
 
17%

Brolaf (6)
 
14%

Demonblade Tryndamere (3)
 
7%

Nunu Bot (3)
 
7%

Corporate Mundo (3)
 
7%

Blood Lord Vladimir (2)
 
5%

Piltover Customs Blitzcrank (2)
 
5%

The Magnificent Twisted Fate (2)
 
5%

Astronaut Teemo (1)
 
2%

Firefighter Tristana (1)
 
2%

Annie in Wonderland (0)
 
0%

42 total votes

Your vote: Best Legendary Skin

(Vote): Blood Lord Vladimir
(Vote): Demonblade Tryndamere
(Vote): Nunu Bot
(Vote): Piltover Customs Blitzcrank
(Vote): Lion Dance Kog'Maw
(Vote): Brolaf
(Vote): Astronaut Teemo
(Vote): Annie in Wonderland
(Vote): The Magnificent Twisted Fate
(Vote): Gentleman Cho'Gath
(Vote): Firefighter Tristana
(Vote): Corporate Mundo



Poll: Best Legendary Skin (Continued, VOTE IN ONLY ONE POLL)

Red Baron Corki (2)
 
50%

Alien Invader Heimerdinger (2)
 
50%

4 total votes

Your vote: Best Legendary Skin (Continued, VOTE IN ONLY ONE POLL)

(Vote): Red Baron Corki
(Vote): Alien Invader Heimerdinger



[image loading]

I'm really surprised anyone voted for Red Baron Corki.


5 bucks they're dyslexic and voted before realizing you're supposed to vote in only one poll.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 12 2012 20:42 GMT
#3680
On January 13 2012 04:16 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 04:09 Goshawk. wrote:
SK replaces AL.mTw after troubles between AbsoluteLegends and mTw. Furthermore Curse will replace APictureOfAGoose who have two members that could not come to Kiev. Chinese team iG had to be replaced by French Sypher due to no other Chinese team being available.


http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/kiev/

For IEM Kiev.

Real tourney. TSM has no excuse if they lose that tourney.

An already slumping dignitas without their best player, a gutted SK, Crs.

Only 2 teams I can see even coming close to competing are M5 and Sypher, and Sypher is a b teir euro team and M5 has only looked good in scrims.

Lol wat?
M5 and aaa are the big favorites for that tournament.
Off-season = best season
Prev 1 182 183 184 185 186 235 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 1h 11m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
MindelVK 13
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 826
Jaedong 757
GuemChi 680
Shuttle 596
Soma 379
firebathero 346
Soulkey 307
sSak 147
Hyuk 107
Rush 97
[ Show more ]
Mong 66
Backho 60
Hyun 53
Snow 48
Movie 18
Yoon 15
Shine 13
scan(afreeca) 12
Noble 5
Dota 2
qojqva3434
Dendi758
Heroes of the Storm
Trikslyr63
Other Games
singsing1991
hiko690
B2W.Neo581
Mlord558
ceh9329
Lowko269
Fuzer 247
crisheroes239
ArmadaUGS160
KnowMe154
XcaliburYe58
Mew2King57
QueenE52
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL245
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 45
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade679
Other Games
• WagamamaTV429
• Shiphtur106
Upcoming Events
LAN Event
1h 11m
OSC
5h 11m
Replay Cast
6h 11m
OSC
19h 11m
LAN Event
22h 11m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 10h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 17h
LAN Event
1d 22h
IPSL
2 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
BSL 21
2 days
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs Sterling
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
IPSL
3 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
3 days
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.