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Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
January 12 2012 19:12 GMT
#3661
On January 13 2012 03:46 JackDino wrote:
The heck is pulling a jiji?



Eating a cupcake around 5 enemy champions. Dem Cupcakes man, make Jiji too fat.
Hug The Goat! Hug the Goat! Hug the Goat!
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 12 2012 19:13 GMT
#3662
His udyr build is REALLY bad.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 12 2012 19:14 GMT
#3663
On January 13 2012 04:12 Shikyo wrote:
21k people are watching hotshotgg failing horribly like 5 times in a row and blaming his team =S


i dont understand how this is different from every other day?
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
January 12 2012 19:15 GMT
#3664
wtf why is Sypher replacing iG.

If anything CLGeu should.
Go go Alliance.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
January 12 2012 19:16 GMT
#3665
On January 13 2012 04:14 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 04:12 Shikyo wrote:
21k people are watching hotshotgg failing horribly like 5 times in a row and blaming his team =S


i dont understand how this is different from every other day?

On other days he has a notepad open that says he's asleep or he's drawing some crap in paint.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
January 12 2012 19:16 GMT
#3666
On January 13 2012 04:09 Goshawk. wrote:
Show nested quote +
SK replaces AL.mTw after troubles between AbsoluteLegends and mTw. Furthermore Curse will replace APictureOfAGoose who have two members that could not come to Kiev. Chinese team iG had to be replaced by French Sypher due to no other Chinese team being available.


http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/kiev/

For IEM Kiev.

Real tourney. TSM has no excuse if they lose that tourney.

An already slumping dignitas without their best player, a gutted SK, Crs.

Only 2 teams I can see even coming close to competing are M5 and Sypher, and Sypher is a b teir euro team and M5 has only looked good in scrims.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
January 12 2012 19:28 GMT
#3667
On January 13 2012 04:15 dooraven wrote:
wtf why is Sypher replacing iG.

If anything CLGeu should.


They have it right their in the announcement. CLGeu was DQ'd along with mtw when they couldn't come to an agreement over winnings/ranking points. I doubt ESL would bring back CLGeu to Kiev even if they are available.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
January 12 2012 19:54 GMT
#3668
I agree, however I just find it funny that sypher is going, sypher's old team quit and now it's an entirely new team.
Go go Alliance.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
January 12 2012 19:55 GMT
#3669
On January 13 2012 04:54 dooraven wrote:
I agree, however I just find it funny that sypher is going, sypher's old team quit and now it's an entirely new team.

A team game is not based around players but... Teams. Makes sense :p
The legend of Darien lives on
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 12 2012 19:58 GMT
#3670
On January 12 2012 20:33 RogerX wrote:
Well I agree, we'll just have to see his numbers when he becomes released into the wild.

well since his ult scales off AP and AD im curious to how his new build will be.

lol something metaish with a mix of AP perhaps?
lantern, Warmogs, atmas, ryalis, rageblade

trololol? idk, i can't think of an efficent build


The thread moves faster than I can reverse engineer numbers, so pages have elapsed since the Jax discussion. However, here are the numbers on Jax' ult as they were in the spotlight.

20/35/50 AP/AD base, +20% of AP as additional AP and +20% of Bonus AD as additional AD. Bonuses are determined at cast time and do not update as buffs/procs fade.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 12 2012 20:01 GMT
#3671
On January 13 2012 04:58 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 20:33 RogerX wrote:
Well I agree, we'll just have to see his numbers when he becomes released into the wild.

well since his ult scales off AP and AD im curious to how his new build will be.

lol something metaish with a mix of AP perhaps?
lantern, Warmogs, atmas, ryalis, rageblade

trololol? idk, i can't think of an efficent build


The thread moves faster than I can reverse engineer numbers, so pages have elapsed since the Jax discussion. However, here are the numbers on Jax' ult as they were in the spotlight.

20/35/50 AP/AD base, +20% of AP as additional AP and +20% of Bonus AD as additional AD. Bonuses are determined at cast time and do not update as buffs/procs fade.

That ain't bad at all. Probably not strong enough to warrant building straight damage over tanky dps/bruiser/metablargl/whatever you want to call it, but pretty damn good. Do you happen to know the CD on it?

Other than that, I kind of want to know the actual numbers on his new Counterstrike. I'm not on the bandwagon of "worst change ever", but they'll have to be pretty careful of making it too bad/good.
It's your boy Guzma!
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 20:07:23
January 12 2012 20:06 GMT
#3672
I don't play GP, but Wicked's GP seems a bit weird. He doesn't level raise morale and doesn't use parrrley much for last hitting. I suppose he has better sustain this way by just harassing with parrrley and healing with orange. Although even weird in last game he would first hit the creeps with parrrley then auto to last hit. I suppose a mistake, but he did quite a few times.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
January 12 2012 20:07 GMT
#3673
So I just wanted to re-iterate: Fuck Poppy. Just doing the math to figure out how much damage you need to do to kill her makes me angry.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 12 2012 20:09 GMT
#3674
On January 13 2012 05:07 Niton wrote:
So I just wanted to re-iterate: Fuck Poppy. Just doing the math to figure out how much damage you need to do to kill her makes me angry.

Good thing no one plays her because her laning is meh.

Dominion, on the other hand....
It's your boy Guzma!
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 20:16:19
January 12 2012 20:14 GMT
#3675
On January 13 2012 05:01 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 04:58 Seuss wrote:
On January 12 2012 20:33 RogerX wrote:
Well I agree, we'll just have to see his numbers when he becomes released into the wild.

well since his ult scales off AP and AD im curious to how his new build will be.

lol something metaish with a mix of AP perhaps?
lantern, Warmogs, atmas, ryalis, rageblade

trololol? idk, i can't think of an efficent build


The thread moves faster than I can reverse engineer numbers, so pages have elapsed since the Jax discussion. However, here are the numbers on Jax' ult as they were in the spotlight.

20/35/50 AP/AD base, +20% of AP as additional AP and +20% of Bonus AD as additional AD. Bonuses are determined at cast time and do not update as buffs/procs fade.

That ain't bad at all. Probably not strong enough to warrant building straight damage over tanky dps/bruiser/metablargl/whatever you want to call it, but pretty damn good. Do you happen to know the CD on it?

Other than that, I kind of want to know the actual numbers on his new Counterstrike. I'm not on the bandwagon of "worst change ever", but they'll have to be pretty careful of making it too bad/good.


The CD looks to be 75s at level 12 and 60s at level 18, so I assume it's probably 90s at level 6.

The new Counterstrike reads to me like Jax can win exchanges at will against Tryndamere and Udyr, but I don't know of any other solo top champions who primarily auto-attack.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-12 20:22:52
January 12 2012 20:18 GMT
#3676
On January 13 2012 03:18 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 02:05 TheYango wrote:
On January 13 2012 02:00 mr_tolkien wrote:
On top of my head, I'd say Cassio could make good use of it, ofc Nidalee, Gragas, Fizz, Ahri, maybe Orianna, Swain, Annie, and I'm surely forgetting some...
For a single slot and 3k5 it's a wonderful item if you land 2-3 charged autos in a teamfight. But... You do it after raba :D

Why would Cassio want it? Performing an autoattack interrupts your ability to cast, and Cassio's pretty much always going to have a spell she's going to want to cast rather than autoattack.

Well, since Cassio is a sustain damage caster based on AP, inserting charged autos in her damage output could help her... Maybe ? Never played her but it doesn't sound to crazy since she is like an AD carry, and there are a few AD carries who make good use of Triforce :D


For Cassio the time spent on all spell cds are used to reposition. You're almost never standing still spamming abilities, but either kiting away or chasing. Similarly, no one stands still against Cassio; they either are trying to catch up to kill you, or run away so they don't die. If they stand still one of you is playing it wrong.

Occasionally you do get an autoattack but there's no reason to get Lichbane over the more important items, including: WOTA, Rylai, Deathcap, Void Staff. I've never had time where I've thought "man if I had Lichbane and he would have died" over one of those 4, and for a 6th slot I'd rather have QSS/GA/RoA.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 12 2012 20:26 GMT
#3677
On January 13 2012 05:14 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 05:01 Requizen wrote:
On January 13 2012 04:58 Seuss wrote:
On January 12 2012 20:33 RogerX wrote:
Well I agree, we'll just have to see his numbers when he becomes released into the wild.

well since his ult scales off AP and AD im curious to how his new build will be.

lol something metaish with a mix of AP perhaps?
lantern, Warmogs, atmas, ryalis, rageblade

trololol? idk, i can't think of an efficent build


The thread moves faster than I can reverse engineer numbers, so pages have elapsed since the Jax discussion. However, here are the numbers on Jax' ult as they were in the spotlight.

20/35/50 AP/AD base, +20% of AP as additional AP and +20% of Bonus AD as additional AD. Bonuses are determined at cast time and do not update as buffs/procs fade.

That ain't bad at all. Probably not strong enough to warrant building straight damage over tanky dps/bruiser/metablargl/whatever you want to call it, but pretty damn good. Do you happen to know the CD on it?

Other than that, I kind of want to know the actual numbers on his new Counterstrike. I'm not on the bandwagon of "worst change ever", but they'll have to be pretty careful of making it too bad/good.


The CD looks to be 75s at level 12 and 60s at level 18, so I assume it's probably 90s at level 6.

The new Counterstrike reads to me like Jax can win exchanges at will against Tryndamere and Udyr, but I don't know of any other solo top champions who primarily auto-attack.

That's a bit longer than other steroid ults, but not too terrible. 75 seconds will be plenty of time mid/late game.

The auto attack bit helps against quite a few top champs. Against Riven, it helps dodge 1-2 passive procs, against GP everything but Parrrley, and of course helps against Kennen's stuns. It's a hard/soft counter to Trynd and Udyr, but will still be pretty strong against the others. Also, it means you can jump on them in their minion wave, hit them once, put up CS, and let their minons power it up for damage.

That said, I'm taking it to the jungle, where it'll be pretty amazing, I think.
It's your boy Guzma!
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17294 Posts
January 12 2012 20:29 GMT
#3678
On January 12 2012 03:54 Craton wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Best Legendary Skin

Gentleman Cho'Gath (12)
 
29%

Lion Dance Kog'Maw (7)
 
17%

Brolaf (6)
 
14%

Demonblade Tryndamere (3)
 
7%

Nunu Bot (3)
 
7%

Corporate Mundo (3)
 
7%

Blood Lord Vladimir (2)
 
5%

Piltover Customs Blitzcrank (2)
 
5%

The Magnificent Twisted Fate (2)
 
5%

Astronaut Teemo (1)
 
2%

Firefighter Tristana (1)
 
2%

Annie in Wonderland (0)
 
0%

42 total votes

Your vote: Best Legendary Skin

(Vote): Blood Lord Vladimir
(Vote): Demonblade Tryndamere
(Vote): Nunu Bot
(Vote): Piltover Customs Blitzcrank
(Vote): Lion Dance Kog'Maw
(Vote): Brolaf
(Vote): Astronaut Teemo
(Vote): Annie in Wonderland
(Vote): The Magnificent Twisted Fate
(Vote): Gentleman Cho'Gath
(Vote): Firefighter Tristana
(Vote): Corporate Mundo



Poll: Best Legendary Skin (Continued, VOTE IN ONLY ONE POLL)

Red Baron Corki (2)
 
50%

Alien Invader Heimerdinger (2)
 
50%

4 total votes

Your vote: Best Legendary Skin (Continued, VOTE IN ONLY ONE POLL)

(Vote): Red Baron Corki
(Vote): Alien Invader Heimerdinger



[image loading]

I'm really surprised anyone voted for Red Baron Corki.
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Sandster
Profile Joined November 2006
United States4054 Posts
January 12 2012 20:32 GMT
#3679
On January 13 2012 05:29 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2012 03:54 Craton wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Poll: Best Legendary Skin

Gentleman Cho'Gath (12)
 
29%

Lion Dance Kog'Maw (7)
 
17%

Brolaf (6)
 
14%

Demonblade Tryndamere (3)
 
7%

Nunu Bot (3)
 
7%

Corporate Mundo (3)
 
7%

Blood Lord Vladimir (2)
 
5%

Piltover Customs Blitzcrank (2)
 
5%

The Magnificent Twisted Fate (2)
 
5%

Astronaut Teemo (1)
 
2%

Firefighter Tristana (1)
 
2%

Annie in Wonderland (0)
 
0%

42 total votes

Your vote: Best Legendary Skin

(Vote): Blood Lord Vladimir
(Vote): Demonblade Tryndamere
(Vote): Nunu Bot
(Vote): Piltover Customs Blitzcrank
(Vote): Lion Dance Kog'Maw
(Vote): Brolaf
(Vote): Astronaut Teemo
(Vote): Annie in Wonderland
(Vote): The Magnificent Twisted Fate
(Vote): Gentleman Cho'Gath
(Vote): Firefighter Tristana
(Vote): Corporate Mundo



Poll: Best Legendary Skin (Continued, VOTE IN ONLY ONE POLL)

Red Baron Corki (2)
 
50%

Alien Invader Heimerdinger (2)
 
50%

4 total votes

Your vote: Best Legendary Skin (Continued, VOTE IN ONLY ONE POLL)

(Vote): Red Baron Corki
(Vote): Alien Invader Heimerdinger



[image loading]

I'm really surprised anyone voted for Red Baron Corki.


5 bucks they're dyslexic and voted before realizing you're supposed to vote in only one poll.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
January 12 2012 20:42 GMT
#3680
On January 13 2012 04:16 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 04:09 Goshawk. wrote:
SK replaces AL.mTw after troubles between AbsoluteLegends and mTw. Furthermore Curse will replace APictureOfAGoose who have two members that could not come to Kiev. Chinese team iG had to be replaced by French Sypher due to no other Chinese team being available.


http://www.esl-world.net/masters/season6/kiev/

For IEM Kiev.

Real tourney. TSM has no excuse if they lose that tourney.

An already slumping dignitas without their best player, a gutted SK, Crs.

Only 2 teams I can see even coming close to competing are M5 and Sypher, and Sypher is a b teir euro team and M5 has only looked good in scrims.

Lol wat?
M5 and aaa are the big favorites for that tournament.
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