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Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
December 18 2011 03:39 GMT
#1641
On December 18 2011 12:25 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 12:19 wei2coolman wrote:
i forgot why amumu was banned all the times in ranked
   then i just played amumu
   then i remembered.

Went 8-0-12 with ranuins, frzn heart, fon, merc boots.

Feels good to own.

Amumu's only weakness is the length of his ulti before he hits 16. If you are fighting right after you rez for some odd reason amumu won't be able to do shit. Fighting when amumu wants to fight is a terrible idea.


His ult lasts the same at all levels. The cooldown gets reduced from 170 to 130 from level 1 to level 3.
Stuck.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 18 2011 03:40 GMT
#1642
On December 18 2011 12:17 tobi9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 11:26 wintergt wrote:
On December 18 2011 11:08 BlackMagister wrote:
Wowowow. TSM steals baron and aces V8, when they were behind all game.

They still lose a teamfight. guess V8 still going to win.

I only caught the very end but wow that LeBlanc.. to say she fell off already was an understatement she did like no damage at all spamming all her skills. Unwinnable 4v5.


The thing is, EVERYONE on v8 had a warmogs or 100+ mr.

All bursty APs would fall off against that. It's not LeBlanc lol.

Think about it, brand/annie/gragas/orianna/morgana would be just as screwed :/

LeBlanc's damage isn't what falls off late game, but rather her CDs are too long for team fighting. She can still take anyone under 70mr 100->0.

When you have anti engage, LEblancs 10 second CD ult is amazing poke on tanks as well.

Although LB definitely falls off hardest, you cannot ignore her unless you don't want your carries to be alive.

Against Warmog Kogmaw and ryze I think all APs are pretty useless though.


I think leblanc's problem is the fact that all her shit is single target
And she has no 'secondary' effects
Morgana has baller cc shield and mr reduction plus 2 aoe spells and reliable cc
Brand has tons and tons of terrible aoe damage and %damage
Ryze is impossible to kill and aoe
Vlad has damage amp and aoe, sustain
Annie has aoe cc
Akali has unparalleled sustain for a mage
Xerath infinite range, poke

Leblanc does comparable damage to the other mages lategame, but only in close range singletarget situations. Every other Mage can step back and lob aoe spells from a safe distance and as long as they hit SOMEONE then they're doing their job
Leblanc MUST get to suicide range and then can only ever kill or even damagae one person
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 18 2011 03:42 GMT
#1643
On December 18 2011 12:35 dnastyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 12:32 gtrsrs wrote:
On December 18 2011 11:29 dnastyx wrote:
On December 18 2011 11:03 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I just played a game against crs liquid, and it confirmed my suspicions. He's just as bad as he looks from streams.


Everyone has known this since forever. Liquid is one of the most awful players around.


Aren't you unranked?
Always find it funny when bads call goods bad. Liquid might not be jiji level, hell he might only be 1700 or 1800 level but the fact is he could play drunk off his ass and blindfolded and still fuck you 8 times til Friday. Maybe when you get sponsored to play a video game you can talk down about liquid


400 elo solo queue what's up
And my ranked 5s team still managed to beat liquid's team when they were still unR...twice in a row.

Always find it funny when bads call goods bad. I might not be jiji level, hell I might only be 1700 or 1800 level but the fact is I could play drunk off his ass and blindfolded and still fuck you 8 times til Friday. Maybe when you're not trash at this video game you can talk down about me

sup


I'm willing to play with you any time to help you out of elo hell bro
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
December 18 2011 03:44 GMT
#1644
On December 18 2011 12:42 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 12:35 dnastyx wrote:
On December 18 2011 12:32 gtrsrs wrote:
On December 18 2011 11:29 dnastyx wrote:
On December 18 2011 11:03 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
I just played a game against crs liquid, and it confirmed my suspicions. He's just as bad as he looks from streams.


Everyone has known this since forever. Liquid is one of the most awful players around.


Aren't you unranked?
Always find it funny when bads call goods bad. Liquid might not be jiji level, hell he might only be 1700 or 1800 level but the fact is he could play drunk off his ass and blindfolded and still fuck you 8 times til Friday. Maybe when you get sponsored to play a video game you can talk down about liquid


400 elo solo queue what's up
And my ranked 5s team still managed to beat liquid's team when they were still unR...twice in a row.

Always find it funny when bads call goods bad. I might not be jiji level, hell I might only be 1700 or 1800 level but the fact is I could play drunk off his ass and blindfolded and still fuck you 8 times til Friday. Maybe when you're not trash at this video game you can talk down about me

sup


I'm willing to play with you any time to help you out of elo hell bro


1V1 LANING SUMMONERS RIFT SHOWMATCH
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 18 2011 03:46 GMT
#1645
On December 18 2011 12:39 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 12:25 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On December 18 2011 12:19 wei2coolman wrote:
i forgot why amumu was banned all the times in ranked
   then i just played amumu
   then i remembered.

Went 8-0-12 with ranuins, frzn heart, fon, merc boots.

Feels good to own.

Amumu's only weakness is the length of his ulti before he hits 16. If you are fighting right after you rez for some odd reason amumu won't be able to do shit. Fighting when amumu wants to fight is a terrible idea.


His ult lasts the same at all levels. The cooldown gets reduced from 170 to 130 from level 1 to level 3.


yeah, i think he was referring to cd on ult
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 18 2011 03:46 GMT
#1646
On December 18 2011 12:39 Wala.Revolution wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 12:25 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
On December 18 2011 12:19 wei2coolman wrote:
i forgot why amumu was banned all the times in ranked
   then i just played amumu
   then i remembered.

Went 8-0-12 with ranuins, frzn heart, fon, merc boots.

Feels good to own.

Amumu's only weakness is the length of his ulti before he hits 16. If you are fighting right after you rez for some odd reason amumu won't be able to do shit. Fighting when amumu wants to fight is a terrible idea.


His ult lasts the same at all levels. The cooldown gets reduced from 170 to 130 from level 1 to level 3.

I meant the length of the cd on his ult, because it's obvious that the duration is the same 2 seconds at all levels. When you compare it to things like 40 second riven ult and other low cd ults his is one of the highest (except for fiddle).
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 03:57:13
December 18 2011 03:56 GMT
#1647
On December 18 2011 12:38 UniversalSnip wrote:
Anyone know what patch these games are being played on? tsm vs v8

@above: ew, I don't want to read this


would you like me to write gay fanfics about TL members instead

EDIT: also all the games are on the current patch, since NESL is not on tourney realm
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 03:59:23
December 18 2011 03:59 GMT
#1648
On December 18 2011 12:35 dnastyx wrote:
400 elo solo queue what's up


0-8 ali vs 1800 players. Sup. :>
forever 400 elo. T_T
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
December 18 2011 04:03 GMT
#1649
Just won a ranked that was 3v5 for the last 20 mins.

Ahri most op.
BlueLaguna on West, msg for game.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
December 18 2011 04:04 GMT
#1650
On December 18 2011 11:55 Alaric wrote:
Well as AP carry you'll need mp5 or a good manapool anyway, because of your saplings cost and base mana, and you're probably solotop/jungler rather than mid, which means you won't get blue buff. FH is probably on your shopping list, shipped with CDR, armor and that awesome aura. You're melee so Abyssal Scepter sounds good too (I tend to get all that with Morgana and Swain).
I never really tried it (I prefer bruiser from the jungle and noone'll let me solotop him as I said) but when I see that lategame Nunu's iceball is still scary for any carry in range with like 200 AP, I can just wonder about the look on your opponents' faces if you get to land a 350 AP (RoA-DC-masteries-runes,roughly) sapling on all 5.


First of all barbsq is totally right with the RoA/Triforce ez #1.

In games where you get this as core I usually go on with Negatron/Chain Armor -> Atmas+FoN. The RoA/Triforce combination gives you about as much HP as a Warmogs and if the game STILL goes on you can moar HP/damage as needed. Abyssal/FH are more items for me when I'm getting raped early (would explode if I'd go Triforce) and/or you're the only tanky dude on the team.

Hell, if things go REALLY bad you can get like sheen, giants belt, chain armor, negatron cloak and still do your job pretty damn well.

(The days when Abyssal/FH was a must-buy on Morgana/Swain are long gone imoimo. Actually I'm not sure if people ever build Abyssal on either of those.)
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
December 18 2011 04:06 GMT
#1651
is anyone else playing malphite a lot nowadays?
i find him so good against so many champs and so good to play when ur using half your brain
cool beans
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 04:13:06
December 18 2011 04:10 GMT
#1652
On December 18 2011 13:06 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
is anyone else playing malphite a lot nowadays?
i find him so good against so many champs and so good to play when ur using half your brain


Enemy team picks Vayne/GP/Skarner/Tryn/Udyr/insert random AS bully in here.

Pick Malphite. Get Randuins. Enjoy.


(Unless you pick Malph vs Teemo and show up to top lane with 45 AP and 30 armor. Can't forget this game. 1700 elo real terror.)


Edit: On another note, I hereby call LB support with Exhaust/Ignite combined with an AD carry (Flash/Exhaust) one of the strongest possible botlanes out there atm.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
December 18 2011 04:12 GMT
#1653
On December 18 2011 13:06 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
is anyone else playing malphite a lot nowadays?
i find him so good against so many champs and so good to play when ur using half your brain


I am a big fan of malphite. he is a great jungler because he clears fast and his q applies red now for great ganks.

He can also solo top quite well against attack speed based champs (irelia, udyr, tryndamere) because he can stack armor and e them all day long.

add in a bunch of utility no matter your role and I am surprised he isn't a competitive pick more often.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 04:18:36
December 18 2011 04:18 GMT
#1654
LeBlanc has a slow, a silence, and a root.

How does she not have any "secondary effects?"
twitch.tv/cratonz
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
December 18 2011 04:30 GMT
#1655
So i guess my internet isn't good enough to stream at a decent quality. If i stream crap quality, no one watches, but if i stream even 720p, i get 300+ Ping
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 18 2011 04:35 GMT
#1656
On December 18 2011 13:30 57 Corvette wrote:
So i guess my internet isn't good enough to stream at a decent quality. If i stream crap quality, no one watches, but if i stream even 720p, i get 300+ Ping

Welcome to Canada, friend.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 18 2011 04:58 GMT
#1657
On December 18 2011 13:18 Craton wrote:
LeBlanc has a slow, a silence, and a root.

How does she not have any "secondary effects?"


because her slow and root require her to be in treacherous range of enemy champs that she actually wants to deal damage to? her silence is nice but again, single target
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
December 18 2011 04:59 GMT
#1658
On December 18 2011 13:18 Craton wrote:
LeBlanc has a slow, a silence, and a root.

How does she not have any "secondary effects?"


I even waited since I thought you'll edit that post, but... who are you talking to? =P
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
December 18 2011 05:03 GMT
#1659
I think leblanc's problem is the fact that all her shit is single target
And she has no 'secondary' effects

.

User was warned for this post
twitch.tv/cratonz
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 18 2011 05:18 GMT
#1660
On December 18 2011 14:03 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
I think leblanc's problem is the fact that all her shit is single target
And she has no 'secondary' effects

.

Well her distortion (W flash) isn't single target, and it can be repeated with her ult. It has a 250 AoE radius, for reference Tibbers is 150 on summon. But I guess no one uses that for damage since it puts you right on top of the enemies for a second.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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