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Want to rage about your latest loss? Use the QQ thread. If you whine in GD, you'll get warned. ===== + Show Spoiler + If your [Stream] thread was moved to the general TL Stream subforum (aka SC stream land), find your thread and PM it to me and I'll move it back to LoL territory. I can argue with staff that moving a non-SC thread into a SC subforum is just asking for that thread to get buried. - Neo, Dec. 15 2011, 6:33 KST I have admin approval. I'll be moving LoL streams back to the subforum. Stream name will be based on Summoner name. - Neo 7:07 KST | ||
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wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
On December 18 2011 11:08 BlackMagister wrote: Wowowow. TSM steals baron and aces V8, when they were behind all game. They still lose a teamfight. guess V8 still going to win. I only caught the very end but wow that LeBlanc.. to say she fell off already was an understatement she did like no damage at all spamming all her skills. Unwinnable 4v5. | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
On December 18 2011 11:03 SnK-Arcbound wrote: I just played a game against crs liquid, and it confirmed my suspicions. He's just as bad as he looks from streams. Everyone has known this since forever. Liquid is one of the most awful players around. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On December 18 2011 11:20 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Maokai is good early. His saplings do 460 damage with no ap. The only problem is his damage isn't bursty, and he's melee, and his cd's are long, making him a terrible ap champion for team fights. If you build him tanky, once you get past the early part of the game where his damage is fucking absurd he falls off. I agree with that, even though his "burst" is still more than 700 just in base damage lategame, ~75% of which is AoE, and discounting his ult, so if he can get it off on a carry, that's going to hurt. I'm not sure what you mean by "his damage isn't burst", tho: as in "he doesn't burst people dead", or "he doesn't launch everything in a burst"? You tend to EQW people in one go, so I'd still call it a "burst", even if it doesn't kill (plus 4s CD on his Q and 2nd best base damage in the game is damn good with a sheen). | ||
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57 Corvette
Canada5941 Posts
720p now :D | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On December 18 2011 11:30 Alaric wrote: It's on her W, her Q is still AoE. I agree with that, even though his "burst" is still more than 700 just in base damage lategame, ~75% of which is AoE, and discounting his ult, so if he can get it off on a carry, that's going to hurt. I'm not sure what you mean by "his damage isn't burst", tho: as in "he doesn't burst people dead", or "he doesn't launch everything in a burst"? You tend to EQW people in one go, so I'd still call it a "burst", even if it doesn't kill (plus 4s CD on his Q and 2nd best base damage in the game is damn good with a sheen). Sapling isn't instant damage, it's split between the land and then the time between it aquiring a target. Sapling is the majority of his damage, and his q and w require him to be in melee range, a bad place for any ap to be. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On December 18 2011 11:34 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Sapling isn't instant damage, it's split between the land and then the time between it aquiring a target. Sapling is the majority of his damage, and his q and w require him to be in melee range, a bad place for any ap to be. If your saplings don't burst then you use them wrong in lane / in teamfights. During lane/teamfight you want to hit E a) right on top of AD/APs, so they have to reposition themselves to your advantage or take it (that's your poke). b) within range of your W, so you can instantly W on top of them while your E is in flight. Once you get it down it's just slightly harder to hit than Brands W for example. Also you seem to have the concept of him being "melee AP". He's not. He's a tanky bruiser if you run him from the jungle. All that stuff like RoA/Triforce needs are some resists (Aegis!!) and he instantly gets beefy enough to punish people being out of position. What makes Maokai such a beast is his flexibility. Someone diving mah carry? NP, I'm with you bro. Someone horribly out of position? NP, I got him bro. Add that with strong poke, that ult and being a fucking tree in your face, he just wins. <3 mah tree PS: If you build him like an AP carry (RoA -> Deathcap) every one of your damn saplings has to hit and you're peeling for your AD all day. Between your passive, your ult and your CC he's still probably one of the beefiest APs out there, even when built this way. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On December 18 2011 11:33 57 Corvette wrote: Alright, fixed my stream quality. Had it on 240p :X 720p now :D It's bigger now, so easier to see, but still pretty pixellated. Did you increase your bitrate? Also, who is your IP? (Being from Canada I know our choices for good upload speed for streaming is pretty limited.) | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I never really tried it (I prefer bruiser from the jungle and noone'll let me solotop him as I said) but when I see that lategame Nunu's iceball is still scary for any carry in range with like 200 AP, I can just wonder about the look on your opponents' faces if you get to land a 350 AP (RoA-DC-masteries-runes,roughly) sapling on all 5. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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NotSorry
United States6722 Posts
finally found it... | ||
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HeroHenry
United States1723 Posts
On December 18 2011 12:10 NotSorry wrote: Is it just me or is the esl site poorly designed and rather annoying to navigate? Trying to find the brackets for todays game for the last 5mins and just going in circles... It's terrible and someone posted the brackets one or two pages back. | ||
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wintergt
Belgium1335 Posts
On December 18 2011 12:10 NotSorry wrote: Is it just me or is the esl site poorly designed and rather annoying to navigate? Trying to find the brackets for todays game for the last 5mins and just going in circles... Haven't triede but it's linked a lot in this thread, here you go: http://www.nationalesl.com/us/lol/season2/playoffs/rankings/ | ||
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
On December 18 2011 11:26 wintergt wrote: I only caught the very end but wow that LeBlanc.. to say she fell off already was an understatement she did like no damage at all spamming all her skills. Unwinnable 4v5. The thing is, EVERYONE on v8 had a warmogs or 100+ mr. All bursty APs would fall off against that. It's not LeBlanc lol. Think about it, brand/annie/gragas/orianna/morgana would be just as screwed :/ LeBlanc's damage isn't what falls off late game, but rather her CDs are too long for team fighting. She can still take anyone under 70mr 100->0. When you have anti engage, LEblancs 10 second CD ult is amazing poke on tanks as well. Although LB definitely falls off hardest, you cannot ignore her unless you don't want your carries to be alive. Against Warmog Kogmaw and ryze I think all APs are pretty useless though. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
then i just played amumu then i remembered. Went 8-0-12 with ranuins, frzn heart, fon, merc boots. Feels good to own. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On December 18 2011 12:19 wei2coolman wrote: i forgot why amumu was banned all the times in ranked then i just played amumu then i remembered. Went 8-0-12 with ranuins, frzn heart, fon, merc boots. Feels good to own. Amumu's only weakness is the length of his ulti before he hits 16. If you are fighting right after you rez for some odd reason amumu won't be able to do shit. Fighting when amumu wants to fight is a terrible idea. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On December 18 2011 11:29 dnastyx wrote: Everyone has known this since forever. Liquid is one of the most awful players around. Aren't you unranked? Always find it funny when bads call goods bad. Liquid might not be jiji level, hell he might only be 1700 or 1800 level but the fact is he could play drunk off his ass and blindfolded and still fuck you 8 times til Friday. Maybe when you get sponsored to play a video game you can talk down about liquid User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
On December 18 2011 12:32 gtrsrs wrote: Aren't you unranked? Always find it funny when bads call goods bad. Liquid might not be jiji level, hell he might only be 1700 or 1800 level but the fact is he could play drunk off his ass and blindfolded and still fuck you 8 times til Friday. Maybe when you get sponsored to play a video game you can talk down about liquid 400 elo solo queue what's up And my ranked 5s team still managed to beat liquid's team when they were still unR...twice in a row. Always find it funny when bads call goods bad. I might not be jiji level, hell I might only be 1700 or 1800 level but the fact is I could play drunk off his ass and blindfolded and still fuck you 8 times til Friday. Maybe when you're not trash at this video game you can talk down about me sup User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
@above: ew, I don't want to read this | ||
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