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Want to rage about your latest loss?
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If your [Stream] thread was moved to the general TL Stream subforum (aka SC stream land), find your thread and PM it to me and I'll move it back to LoL territory. I can argue with staff that moving a non-SC thread into a SC subforum is just asking for that thread to get buried.

- Neo, Dec. 15 2011, 6:33 KST

I have admin approval. I'll be moving LoL streams back to the subforum. Stream name will be based on Summoner name.

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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 18 2011 05:34 GMT
#1661
Leblanc is still too stupid in lane. Either play passive and give up CS or play aggressive and get raped by that silence plus kabajillion damage. I hate laning against her so much especially since I don't play Ryze which, from what I've heard, is her best counter.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 18 2011 05:40 GMT
#1662
In other news, jungle TF is a surprisingly non troll way to destroy an enemy team. Its like actually really really good.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 18 2011 05:42 GMT
#1663
On December 18 2011 13:06 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
is anyone else playing malphite a lot nowadays?
i find him so good against so many champs and so good to play when ur using half your brain

destroyed ahri in lane going ap malphite. dunno man. instagib at lv6 lol
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 18 2011 05:47 GMT
#1664
On December 18 2011 14:34 overt wrote:
Leblanc is still too stupid in lane. Either play passive and give up CS or play aggressive and get raped by that silence plus kabajillion damage. I hate laning against her so much especially since I don't play Ryze which, from what I've heard, is her best counter.


That doesn't really make any sense, silences hurt Ryze more than anyone else, plus he's innately squishy, slow and has no mobility. Ryze is my main AP and my goal when going against LB is to not feed.

If there's a super secret strategy to beat LB, I'd love to hear it.
I am the Town Medic.
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
December 18 2011 05:51 GMT
#1665
What? Ryze is like the tankiest caster mid/late game. All you have to do is farm and try not to die to LB before you get your build going.
Everyone needs a nemesis.
holdthephone
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States523 Posts
December 18 2011 05:57 GMT
#1666
I thought the general opinion on leblanc is that she's a great noob stomper and not much else. She's incredibly easy to hard counter, whether with MR or a counter pick in champ select.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
December 18 2011 06:02 GMT
#1667
On December 18 2011 14:51 lynx.oblige wrote:
What? Ryze is like the tankiest caster mid/late game. All you have to do is farm and try not to die to LB before you get your build going.

Yeah, but he's talking laning vs leblanc early game when you don't have your BVeil and stuff yet.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 06:07:13
December 18 2011 06:06 GMT
#1668
List of champions I can think of off the top of my head that are great noob stompers and not much else:

- Xin
- Master Yi
- Eve
- Mundo

That's... about it. And all of these guys are just a bit subpar at your own level of play, get players who are slightly worse than you in your game and I guess you'll do well, and you can still do fine with them at your own rank. So noob stompers is not even the correct term.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
December 18 2011 06:10 GMT
#1669
Out of all casters you'd think Ryze is the one that can easiest afford to simply rune MR vs LB and like open with a null magic, build catalyst first and then LB is not looking that dangerous anymore.
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
December 18 2011 06:14 GMT
#1670
On December 18 2011 15:06 UniversalSnip wrote:
List of champions I can think of off the top of my head that are great noob stompers and not much else:

- Xin
- Master Yi
- Eve
- Mundo

That's... about it. And all of these guys are just a bit subpar at your own level of play, get players who are slightly worse than you in your game and I guess you'll do well, and you can still do fine with them at your own rank. So noob stompers is not even the correct term.

Yi and leblanc are like my favorite champions

Btw, has anyone tried atmogs yi?? I don't like the squishy ghostblade yi, you die as soon as anybody even looks in your direction.
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
scottyyy
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom796 Posts
December 18 2011 06:21 GMT
#1671
I'm getting pissed off with the ESL site. I want to find the page with the brackets etc for the premier league that was played yesterday since I missed it. A link would be nice, but I seriously would prefer it if someone would teach me how to use this site and what I need to click on to find this shit.

http://www.nationalesl.com/us/lol/season2/

From here, how do you get to the brackets?
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 06:26:17
December 18 2011 06:22 GMT
#1672
On December 18 2011 14:57 holdthephone wrote:
I thought the general opinion on leblanc is that she's a great noob stomper and not much else. She's incredibly easy to hard counter, whether with MR or a counter pick in champ select.


She gets run in tournies by Regi now. So obviously not just a noob stomper. People have always just said "build MR" as a counter to her but that doesn't really work. LB with a standard build versus an AP mid who's building MR so that he won't die just means LB is going to assassinate your carry midgame while you're completely worthless. Unless you're playing Ryze of course, cause he build MR anyways.

I have also had a few beers so yeah. All I know for sure is that I hate LB, she's not fun to play against at all.

BASICALLY, I'm just trying to say that she's annoying. Maybe not op broken but annoying. And the only advice I've ever heard from high Elo people of, "just build MR," is pretty shitty advice imo.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
December 18 2011 06:25 GMT
#1673
On December 18 2011 15:21 scottyyy wrote:
I'm getting pissed off with the ESL site. I want to find the page with the brackets etc for the premier league that was played yesterday since I missed it. A link would be nice, but I seriously would prefer it if someone would teach me how to use this site and what I need to click on to find this shit.

http://www.nationalesl.com/us/lol/season2/

From here, how do you get to the brackets?

From there you go to your address bar and navigate to teamliquid, then the LoL section, then general discussion thread, then find the page with the link to the bracket.
twitch.tv/cratonz
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
December 18 2011 06:25 GMT
#1674
So I pick Jarvan for top lane against garen. I start cloth +5 pots. He runs up with his silly silence then spin combo, while i just activate w, hit him once to proc passive, and then go farm.

He is so intent on killing me he misses out on a ton of cs while I get most of each wave. After a while I have a 30 cs advantage, a gp5 item, and haven't used my teleport. Garen had already used his teleport and bought no gp5 items (straight into his normal build). No kills for either side. He pushes me out of lane temporarily and types in chat "garen>jarvan" thinking he was winning.

Then you realize that even though it seems like you always get them, there are actually stupid people playing on both sides most of the time.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
December 18 2011 06:30 GMT
#1675
I always wondered why LoL has bigger numbers than SC2!
Now I understand. Its a great game as it is
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
December 18 2011 06:34 GMT
#1676
Well I thought I'd figured out the nesl site, but the link to the bracket page was broken so iono.
twitch.tv/cratonz
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
December 18 2011 06:35 GMT
#1677
i swear i saw nhat look at the bracket on his stream like 10 mins ago, then I tried to go see it myself on the esl page and the link is broken >_> pro site.
holdthephone
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States523 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 06:38:19
December 18 2011 06:35 GMT
#1678
On December 18 2011 15:22 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2011 14:57 holdthephone wrote:
I thought the general opinion on leblanc is that she's a great noob stomper and not much else. She's incredibly easy to hard counter, whether with MR or a counter pick in champ select.


She gets run in tournies by Regi now. So obviously not just a noob stomper. People have always just said "build MR" as a counter to her but that doesn't really work. LB with a standard build versus an AP mid who's building MR so that he won't die just means LB is going to assassinate your carry midgame while you're completely worthless. Unless you're playing Ryze of course, cause he build MR anyways.

I have also had a few beers so yeah. All I know for sure is that I hate LB, she's not fun to play against at all.

BASICALLY, I'm just trying to say that she's annoying. Maybe not op broken but annoying. And the only advice I've ever heard from high Elo people of, "just build MR," is pretty shitty advice imo.


Hm, well I guess I can't argue with the pros.

As a long time LB player though, these are things that annoy me:

1. Magic resist runes (an AP mid must)
2. Someone who knows how to aggressively auto-attack (LB can do nothing pre-level 6, and her cooldowns do her no favors against auto-attack harass)
3. Health potions (boots+3 against a lb, IMO)

If you start with a dorans ring, there's no way you'll survive the lane. Also keep in mind she can't push lanes for anything. She wants you there for the kill, if you don't give it to her, she'll be 10x less lethal going into mid game. Oh, and exhaust has ruined my day plenty of times.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-18 06:37:05
December 18 2011 06:36 GMT
#1679
On December 18 2011 15:22 overt wrote:BASICALLY, I'm just trying to say that she's annoying. Maybe not op broken but annoying. And the only advice I've ever heard from high Elo people of, "just build MR," is pretty shitty advice imo.


I'd go Ryze with 21 in defensive masteries, get catalyst first and run magic resist/levels glyphs. If she combos you dead without help, you screwed up pretty badly. :>

In general going catalyst first against Leblanc and playing a bit passively seems to work fine for me regardless of the champion. There's some pretty bad Leblanc's out there though, so it's probably not that simple. :>
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
December 18 2011 06:37 GMT
#1680
On December 18 2011 15:25 petered wrote:
So I pick Jarvan for top lane against garen. I start cloth +5 pots. He runs up with his silly silence then spin combo, while i just activate w, hit him once to proc passive, and then go farm.

He is so intent on killing me he misses out on a ton of cs while I get most of each wave. After a while I have a 30 cs advantage, a gp5 item, and haven't used my teleport. Garen had already used his teleport and bought no gp5 items (straight into his normal build). No kills for either side. He pushes me out of lane temporarily and types in chat "garen>jarvan" thinking he was winning.

Then you realize that even though it seems like you always get them, there are actually stupid people playing on both sides most of the time.

Heh, he probably has no idea about CS or last-hitting at all, I know I sure didn't before I watched some streams and learned that a kill is about the same gold as 15-20 cs..
here i am
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