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On December 17 2011 15:25 Two_DoWn wrote:
So I was staring in horror at my match record today and my eyes fell on the achievements tab that is greyed out and will likely never greyed in because Riot doesnt actually fulfill promises. But that got me thinking. What would be some cool achievements beyond just double, triple, quadra, pentakill?
Some of my thoughts-
"David wins"- Solo someone with 3k hp at the start of you hitting them- no ally help, minions can help.
"Dirty dancing"- hit all 5 enemies with Sona ult
"Found him!"- Hit all 5 enemies with tibbers
"Goliath wins"- 6 stack cho eats teemo for the kill (credit to snapplejax (IGN))
Powerball Landspeed Record
1000 AP in a ranked game
500 CS in a ranked game
Playing as Shaco and going a whole game without dying (pretty sure this one is impossible, based on the Shaco's I've seen)
Hitting a Stealth Twitch in the Fog with Ashe Arrow
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killing someone who is standing in the fountain
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So, how OP is Riven+Zilean?
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Riven needs a big swing from the nerf bat. The combination of the two sounds about the same as riven + anything else.
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kill someone with a Pantheon ult
die to an exploding Shaco clone that you killed
"kill secured" - get at least 10 kills and no assists
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"Crimson Pact
AP -> health conversion reduced to 1.4 from 1.8"
pretty sure this is more significant than the cdr and health cost reduction, so hes really getting a nerf
For shen, im not sure whether the buffs will be very significant, besides for the taunt buff. all the others seem pretty useless, and even the taunt buff is only for like .2 sec..
Edit: Ninja Tabi: UNIQUE Passive: Reduces the damage taken from non-turret basic attacks by 10%.
Someone do the math and find out whether this is better or worse than before, or practically the same in terms of total damage taken
Edit 2: Rereading it, actually the vorpal blade buff for shen is pretty huge. Not sure about stat-wise, but the fact that u regain hp by last hitting with it helps his solo top a lot
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Those Shen buffs look massive. And about the level that he honestly needs. Hope they go through!
On December 17 2011 16:15 deathray797 wrote:"Crimson Pact AP -> health conversion reduced to 1.4 from 1.8" pretty sure this is more significant than the cdr and health cost reduction, so hes really getting a nerf For shen, im not sure whether the buffs will be very significant, besides for the taunt buff. all the others seem pretty useless, and even the taunt buff is only for like .2 sec..
1. taunt energy buff measn you can actually use your spells in a fight
2. free 40 armour makes feint really good, also feint duration extend is nice
3. health-scaling heal off of vorpal blade means it will actually heal you in the late game
4. cd reduction on minion hit innate means shen jungle would be really viable. more damage is also really good.
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On December 17 2011 16:15 deathray797 wrote:"Crimson Pact AP -> health conversion reduced to 1.4 from 1.8" pretty sure this is more significant than the cdr and health cost reduction, so hes really getting a nerf For shen, im not sure whether the buffs will be very significant, besides for the taunt buff. all the others seem pretty useless, and even the taunt buff is only for like .2 sec..
Nah. With like 500 AP thats 200 less health, except you rape everyone with your laning phase not sucking now. (It's actually already decent). Vlad's lategame has always been beast a small nerf is incomparable to making him dumb in lane :3
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Heal piñata effect reduced to 10/16/22/28/34 from 18/26/34/42/50
Heal piñata also heals for 2% of maximum health
Rofl. 
Sounds like they would be cute buffs on all his abilities, but is it enough?
It's cute that single-target abilities gain health on q-marked targets, but that healing never felt that significant in teamfights, since ~20 health per second isn't all that much. I guess the health gain off last hitting is pretty nice for solotop shen though as was mentioned above.
The +40 armor on W makes it synergize a bit with E if used to taunt targets that actually do auto damage... But it's not that huge imo.
Buff to his passive doesn't seem like that big either, a warmogs would give you an extra ~50 damage on which isn't going to make him much less ignorable damage-wise in teamfights.
Still, these many little things could end up being strong I guess.
Edit: I guess I'm thinking lategame/teamfight situations so I may be missing parts of the whole package.
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I dunno, I can easily see Shen being OP with buffs like that.
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they just need to give shen back his own shield on his ult
actually just reverting shen to where he was pre-recent nerfs (like... 6 months ago recent, not release recent)
back then he was considered OP but amongst all the shit that flies now, he'd be just perfect
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Was shen op back then or just really fucking annoying? Cuz I dont ever remember him being op on terms of someone like rammus pre powerball nerfs, just really annoying to deal with because you had to constantly remind yourself he would fuck you.
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On December 17 2011 16:16 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 16:15 deathray797 wrote:"Crimson Pact AP -> health conversion reduced to 1.4 from 1.8" pretty sure this is more significant than the cdr and health cost reduction, so hes really getting a nerf For shen, im not sure whether the buffs will be very significant, besides for the taunt buff. all the others seem pretty useless, and even the taunt buff is only for like .2 sec.. Nah. With like 500 AP thats 200 less health, except you rape everyone with your laning phase not sucking now. (It's actually already decent). Vlad's lategame has always been beast a small nerf is incomparable to making him dumb in lane :3
People were just taking every hp and ap rune/mastery they could get and would come into lane with some 40 ap and 700 hp and wrecking shit even with his high cd's. Now he should be closer to every single other ap.
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shen is going to be the ultimate counter to riven in toplane
already is a pain in the butt
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I really think the Ki strike change will make Shen solo top a beast. he can duel you in the minion wave and get a free 100 or so magic damage every other hit while the armor from feint makes him a lot harder to harass back, and his sustain is a lot better with the last hitting change.
not to mention he doesn't need to take teleport like other top laners
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On December 17 2011 15:49 travis wrote:
killing someone who is standing in the fountain
I've done that before... Granted, they were only in the fountain for like three four seconds.
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On December 17 2011 16:43 starfries wrote:
not to mention he doesn't need to take teleport like other top laners
well that's just wrong
teleport is even more important than shen on other laners
you're implying he doesn't need teleport because of his ult
but his ult takes you OUT of lane, doesn't put you in lane
you need TP to go back to lane after you save teammates ass
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On December 17 2011 17:03 gtrsrs wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2011 16:43 starfries wrote:
not to mention he doesn't need to take teleport like other top laners well that's just wrong teleport is even more important than shen on other laners you're implying he doesn't need teleport because of his ult but his ult takes you OUT of lane, doesn't put you in lane you need TP to go back to lane after you save teammates ass
I don't save people lol
I afk farm all day and use ult to show up to teamfights if I really have to
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On December 17 2011 16:34 Two_DoWn wrote:
Was shen op back then or just really fucking annoying? Cuz I dont ever remember him being op on terms of someone like rammus pre powerball nerfs, just really annoying to deal with because you had to constantly remind yourself he would fuck you.
i think he was probs top tier
this shen would be perfect in today's game:
V1.0.0.85:
* Ki Strike:
o Damage gained from health reduced to 3.5% from 4%.
o Cooldown reduction on champion hit reduced to 2 from 3.
* Vorpal Blade: damage reduced to 50/95/140/185/230 from 50/100/150/200/250.
* Feint: base block amount reduced to 40/70/100/130/160 from 40/75/110/145/180.
* Stand United: cooldown increased to 180/150/120 from 150/135/120.
at least i think that's the patch
his ult still shielded him, he was a lane dominator to the extreme
he could support, he could solo, he could jungle (slowly but safely)
he was not a lategame powerhouse
that shen would be perfect in this power zone today
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