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On December 16 2011 07:59 Hynda wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 07:14 Haemonculus wrote:
What do people think of Miss Fortune these days? I rarely see her but she's the only AD I've never really touched and looks fun to pick up.
Should I buy her and try to learn? Does she have any niche roles to play in any particular teamcomps? If you mean people like pros? They think she is completly useless. Bad Q. decent roid with w (Due to passive). Bad E and usless Ultimate. There is no reason to take her over the better AD carries. Is she fun to play? Yea, I feel she is, but if it is close game I always swear over the fact that I didn't pick Vayne, Graves, Trist, Kog or Cait.
MF is god. Her ult does as much damage as buckshot. 2nd best AD carry after graves.
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I'm not sure what's so bad about MF's lategame compared to that of say Caitlyn. Her main problem is having no escape ofcourse, but it seems her damage output with w is quite high, and her ult isnt half bad either atm. Factor in a AoE slow(ish) and healing debuff and i'd think she'd do well enough late game if protected a bit. But I'm no pro and they are so I guess i'm missing something =)
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What happened to the winter map it was here last night then it went away?
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On December 16 2011 08:03 Promises wrote:
I'm not sure what's so bad about MF's lategame compared to that of say Caitlyn. Her main problem is having no escape ofcourse, but it seems her damage output with w is quite high, and her ult isnt half bad either atm. Factor in a AoE slow(ish) and healing debuff and i'd think she'd do well enough late game if protected a bit. But I'm no pro and they are so I guess i'm missing something =)
So MF is viable because she's better than the AD carry who has the worst late game in the entire game? Real logic there. MF used to be the lane bully, but she got replaced by Caitlyn. Her AoE is also to evade or interupt ^_^ Comparing it to an instant damage ability like Graves is just laughable.
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On December 16 2011 08:06 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 08:03 Promises wrote:
I'm not sure what's so bad about MF's lategame compared to that of say Caitlyn. Her main problem is having no escape ofcourse, but it seems her damage output with w is quite high, and her ult isnt half bad either atm. Factor in a AoE slow(ish) and healing debuff and i'd think she'd do well enough late game if protected a bit. But I'm no pro and they are so I guess i'm missing something =) So MF is viable because she's better than the AD carry who has the worst late game in the entire game? Real logic there. MF used to be the lane bully, but she got replaced by Caitlyn. Her AoE is also to evade or interupt ^_^ Comparing it to an instant damage ability like Graves is just laughable.
Actually, Chaox says that late game strength of AD carries is based upon range and beefiness, and that Caitlyn is one of the strongest late game, unless they have zilean or yorick.
Also, if you guys care he said that MF does a lot more damage if you factor in the healing reduction.
MF is perfectly viable, and has been used in many many tournaments. Stop talking as if she's not good.
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On December 16 2011 08:06 NotSorry wrote:
What happened to the winter map it was here last night then it went away?
It's on a random pick, you'll have normal one time and then winter another, then fall another (unless fall was removed).
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On December 16 2011 08:06 NotSorry wrote:
What happened to the winter map it was here last night then it went away?
It's still thar apperently. I like it, just cus of the season but I wouldn't want it to stay..
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On December 16 2011 08:14 Parnage wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 08:06 NotSorry wrote:
What happened to the winter map it was here last night then it went away? It's still thar apperently. I like it, just cus of the season but I wouldn't want it to stay..
I love the winter map would play it all year if I could pick it
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On December 16 2011 08:18 NotSorry wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 08:14 Parnage wrote:On December 16 2011 08:06 NotSorry wrote:
What happened to the winter map it was here last night then it went away? It's still thar apperently. I like it, just cus of the season but I wouldn't want it to stay.. I love the winter map would play it all year if I could pick it
that would drive me nuts. i can just barely deal with it for the holiday season, but it was torture when they had it on all the time.
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I must have fundamentally different eyes from the most of the rest of humanity. I don't have problems reading text on the winter map, my eyes don't feel particularly strained looking at it, and I think it's just fine.
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anyone elses client keep crashing over and over?
just started this patch..
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On December 16 2011 08:10 tobi9999 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 08:06 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On December 16 2011 08:03 Promises wrote:
I'm not sure what's so bad about MF's lategame compared to that of say Caitlyn. Her main problem is having no escape ofcourse, but it seems her damage output with w is quite high, and her ult isnt half bad either atm. Factor in a AoE slow(ish) and healing debuff and i'd think she'd do well enough late game if protected a bit. But I'm no pro and they are so I guess i'm missing something =) So MF is viable because she's better than the AD carry who has the worst late game in the entire game? Real logic there. MF used to be the lane bully, but she got replaced by Caitlyn. Her AoE is also to evade or interupt ^_^ Comparing it to an instant damage ability like Graves is just laughable. Actually, Chaox says that late game strength of AD carries is based upon range and beefiness, and that Caitlyn is one of the strongest late game, unless they have zilean or yorick. Also, if you guys care he said that MF does a lot more damage if you factor in the healing reduction. MF is perfectly viable, and has been used in many many tournaments. Stop talking as if she's not good. Then how come pretty much everyone else call her useless (The big streamers) and a gimmick champion. Look at her set, it's not very good at all.
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On December 16 2011 08:10 tobi9999 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 08:06 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:On December 16 2011 08:03 Promises wrote:
I'm not sure what's so bad about MF's lategame compared to that of say Caitlyn. Her main problem is having no escape ofcourse, but it seems her damage output with w is quite high, and her ult isnt half bad either atm. Factor in a AoE slow(ish) and healing debuff and i'd think she'd do well enough late game if protected a bit. But I'm no pro and they are so I guess i'm missing something =) So MF is viable because she's better than the AD carry who has the worst late game in the entire game? Real logic there. MF used to be the lane bully, but she got replaced by Caitlyn. Her AoE is also to evade or interupt ^_^ Comparing it to an instant damage ability like Graves is just laughable. Actually, Chaox says that late game strength of AD carries is based upon range and beefiness, and that Caitlyn is one of the strongest late game, unless they have zilean or yorick. Also, if you guys care he said that MF does a lot more damage if you factor in the healing reduction. MF is perfectly viable, and has been used in many many tournaments. Stop talking as if she's not good.
MF hasn't been used in many tournaments recently.
I personally haven't seen her used since the release of Caitlyn.
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On December 16 2011 08:06 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
So MF is viable because she's better than the AD carry who has the worst late game in the entire game? Real logic there. MF used to be the lane bully, but she got replaced by Caitlyn. Her AoE is also to evade or interupt ^_^ Comparing it to an instant damage ability like Graves is just laughable.
Caitlyn has the worst late-game as an AD carry? What are you talking about?
Graves, Ezreal, MF, and Corki have a significantly weaker late-game just because of their range.
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Cait is a good late game carry because of her range. Its the reason kog maw is so good- range wins fights.
I mean, your talking about ad carry, a role that does most of its damage on autoattacks, with the same items across the board. They are going to do similar damage. The differentiating factors between them is if A) they have an escape, B) some sort of damage steroid, and C) their range.
Cait has an advantage in terms of a and c. Vayne has a and b.
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While Tristana has range, steroid and escapes. Oh and ahealing debuff. Once more cementing that Tristana is the best of all the Ad carries.
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On December 16 2011 08:02 freelander wrote:Show nested quote +On December 16 2011 07:52 Two_DoWn wrote:On December 16 2011 07:51 Requizen wrote:
Have we talked about the new Tabi yet? 30 armor 10% Damage Reduction from auto attacks?
Better than the movement collision one, imo. o.O Its essentially the same as it was before they removed dodge, although I dont know what the dodge % was in terms of damage reduction from autos, so it could be a nerf for all I know. dodge % on the long run is the same as the % damage reduction from autos dodge is better though because you don't suffer those disgusting on-hit effects like silver bolt overall it's a nerf for the boots, because it gives 2 less % (it used to give 12 % dodge) and the onhit effects..
5 more armor
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On December 16 2011 08:38 Parnage wrote:
While Tristana has range, steroid and escapes. Oh and ahealing debuff. Once more cementing that Tristana is the best of all the Ad carries.
Trist with red buff #1 most deadly carry in the game.
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What are people's thoughts on high ground giving vision to lower ground? Most importantly being able to see people in the water below while you are up top looking over the edge.
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On December 16 2011 08:38 Parnage wrote:
While Tristana has range, steroid and escapes. Oh and ahealing debuff. Once more cementing that Tristana is the best of all the Ad carries.
Late game, but mid game she is rather weak, but once the game hits late game, she becomes god mode.
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