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Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 19:23:58
December 14 2011 19:22 GMT
#661
Come on guys. We're better than this. Stop the trolling.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 14 2011 19:23 GMT
#662
WW's aoe dot? WAT?
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
December 14 2011 19:23 GMT
#663
Hey guys. This is simple questions, simple answers, right? Search function isn't turning up the information I'm looking for.

Basically, I had never understood the appeal of replays in LoL until yesterday. I was always like, "Ya, Replays good for esports. Whatever." I just felt like with the constantly changing Meta, tutorial type videos just get outdated too fast. For example, Regi has made some awesome Shaco Jungling videos that are not even close to viable anymore due to all the changes to the champ and the jungle.

But as I was browsing streams, I realized that if the streamer wasn't playing a champ I liked, the stream was boring and I didn't want to watch. Then I thought "How cool would it be to just search for good players, playing champs I like or am trying to learn." That is about the time I realized how great replays would be for LoL.

So I've seen a couple different names of programs mentioned here on the forums. Can anyone break down pro's and con's for me? Is there a standard? One that works the best? Also, what about libraries of replays. Is there someplace I can go to download Regi's recent games?

TL;DR
Tell me about replays.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
December 14 2011 19:25 GMT
#664
u cunts
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 14 2011 19:27 GMT
#665
On December 15 2011 04:23 Terranasaur wrote:
Hey guys. This is simple questions, simple answers, right? Search function isn't turning up the information I'm looking for.

Basically, I had never understood the appeal of replays in LoL until yesterday. I was always like, "Ya, Replays good for esports. Whatever." I just felt like with the constantly changing Meta, tutorial type videos just get outdated too fast. For example, Regi has made some awesome Shaco Jungling videos that are not even close to viable anymore due to all the changes to the champ and the jungle.

But as I was browsing streams, I realized that if the streamer wasn't playing a champ I liked, the stream was boring and I didn't want to watch. Then I thought "How cool would it be to just search for good players, playing champs I like or am trying to learn." That is about the time I realized how great replays would be for LoL.

So I've seen a couple different names of programs mentioned here on the forums. Can anyone break down pro's and con's for me? Is there a standard? One that works the best? Also, what about libraries of replays. Is there someplace I can go to download Regi's recent games?

TL;DR
Tell me about replays.


LOLReplay is pretty good. I'm not sure if there are any other programs, but it just went under some nice UI changes recently. The downside is you can only see health bars for where you were currently looking in the game, so it's a bit buggy.

I'm really looking forward to drop-in spectating games though. There have been so many times I've been waiting for a friend and want to watch in on how their game is going. Hopefully that's coming soon.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 19:35:59
December 14 2011 19:34 GMT
#666
As was mentioned, right now I think LOLReplay is your only option. There might be another program but LOLReplay is what everyone who records their games uses. I don't know if you can find any pros replays or not though. Just Google searching a pros name and the champion you want might be best (watch a replay on own3d). SoloMid has a lot of videos too.

I'm pretty sure replays are going to be added relatively soon after drop-in spectating is added. So you might just have to wait.

edit:
iirc, CLG's site has LOLReplays you can download but I dunno if they're high level players or not. From what I remember, if they still even have that feature, anyone can upload replays so you never know what you're gonna get if you download one from there.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
December 14 2011 19:37 GMT
#667
On December 15 2011 04:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 04:23 Terranasaur wrote:
Hey guys. This is simple questions, simple answers, right? Search function isn't turning up the information I'm looking for.

Basically, I had never understood the appeal of replays in LoL until yesterday. I was always like, "Ya, Replays good for esports. Whatever." I just felt like with the constantly changing Meta, tutorial type videos just get outdated too fast. For example, Regi has made some awesome Shaco Jungling videos that are not even close to viable anymore due to all the changes to the champ and the jungle.

But as I was browsing streams, I realized that if the streamer wasn't playing a champ I liked, the stream was boring and I didn't want to watch. Then I thought "How cool would it be to just search for good players, playing champs I like or am trying to learn." That is about the time I realized how great replays would be for LoL.

So I've seen a couple different names of programs mentioned here on the forums. Can anyone break down pro's and con's for me? Is there a standard? One that works the best? Also, what about libraries of replays. Is there someplace I can go to download Regi's recent games?

TL;DR
Tell me about replays.


LOLReplay is pretty good. I'm not sure if there are any other programs, but it just went under some nice UI changes recently. The downside is you can only see health bars for where you were currently looking in the game, so it's a bit buggy.

I'm really looking forward to drop-in spectating games though. There have been so many times I've been waiting for a friend and want to watch in on how their game is going. Hopefully that's coming soon.


The health bar "bug" in LOLReplay has to do with the fact that it's all based on what data your client received (actually, what data your client displayed to you) over the course of the game. If you aren't looking at something, the server doesn't bother sending you info on the health bars. It's a hackjob, because we have no real replay system yet, but it's a well-made hackjob that Riot has checked up on and said "yah this is fine and also doesn't keylog you"
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 14 2011 19:41 GMT
#668
On December 15 2011 04:37 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 04:27 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On December 15 2011 04:23 Terranasaur wrote:
Hey guys. This is simple questions, simple answers, right? Search function isn't turning up the information I'm looking for.

Basically, I had never understood the appeal of replays in LoL until yesterday. I was always like, "Ya, Replays good for esports. Whatever." I just felt like with the constantly changing Meta, tutorial type videos just get outdated too fast. For example, Regi has made some awesome Shaco Jungling videos that are not even close to viable anymore due to all the changes to the champ and the jungle.

But as I was browsing streams, I realized that if the streamer wasn't playing a champ I liked, the stream was boring and I didn't want to watch. Then I thought "How cool would it be to just search for good players, playing champs I like or am trying to learn." That is about the time I realized how great replays would be for LoL.

So I've seen a couple different names of programs mentioned here on the forums. Can anyone break down pro's and con's for me? Is there a standard? One that works the best? Also, what about libraries of replays. Is there someplace I can go to download Regi's recent games?

TL;DR
Tell me about replays.


LOLReplay is pretty good. I'm not sure if there are any other programs, but it just went under some nice UI changes recently. The downside is you can only see health bars for where you were currently looking in the game, so it's a bit buggy.

I'm really looking forward to drop-in spectating games though. There have been so many times I've been waiting for a friend and want to watch in on how their game is going. Hopefully that's coming soon.


The health bar "bug" in LOLReplay has to do with the fact that it's all based on what data your client received (actually, what data your client displayed to you) over the course of the game. If you aren't looking at something, the server doesn't bother sending you info on the health bars. It's a hackjob, because we have no real replay system yet, but it's a well-made hackjob that Riot has checked up on and said "yah this is fine and also doesn't keylog you"


Yeah, I guess "bug" wasn't the right word. But yeah, the program does very well with what resources it has available, especially considering it's a completely 3rd party program.
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Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
December 14 2011 19:43 GMT
#669
Riot should really release their own replay system. Too bad they're too busy balancing dominion to even work on a replay feature.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 14 2011 19:46 GMT
#670
On December 15 2011 04:43 Sabin010 wrote:
Riot should really release their own replay system. Too bad they're too busy balancing dominion to even work on a replay feature.


Cuz they're TOTALLY the same departments. You sound like the GD forums...
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
December 14 2011 19:48 GMT
#671
Played 2 ranked matches so far. Both were 4v5. this game blows.

User was warned for this post
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
December 14 2011 19:49 GMT
#672
What you think that novelty game is actually going to evolve into a game as big as sr? I mean they could have spend the engineering time making a replay system instead of a new map; yes I was being sarcastic, but do you honestly think people are going to want to watch dominion as much as they're watching games of sr?
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 19:52:26
December 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#673
On December 15 2011 04:43 Sabin010 wrote:
Riot should really release their own replay system. Too bad they're too busy balancing dominion to even work on a replay feature.

Different teams....
Balance team has nothing to do with the programmers/development of new features.

But it should come out soon. Didn't Moonbear say they *wanted* it to come out with season 2? They normally don't announce stuff officially anymore unless it's actually going to come out within the next 1-2 months. Since the whole community essentially shit talked them for the past 2 years because they thought "hey we want to make a replay system eventually!" and everyone was like "FUCK YOU RIOT, WHY YOU NO GIVE IT TO US YET?!"

I know if any of my programmer friends had to work with adobe air for everything Riot has already done for the game they'd probably have killed themselves by now lol.

And dominion was released about 1-2 after announced, wasn't it?
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
December 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#674
On December 15 2011 04:13 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 03:59 Ryalnos wrote:
On December 15 2011 03:53 BlackPaladin wrote:
The idea is probably to make it a mini-ignite. Numbers can always be adjusted.


Well, one key difference is that it's activated on a target area, not a champion.


shhh... this is TL, where you read the first 3 words of a post instead of the whole thing before you post
i'm fully expecting someone to come in in a page or so and ask why warwick has a new DoT ability


I suppose that's a fair point on how someone might misinterpret my comment.

I meant, of course, that I thought "mini-ignite" was probably not that strong of a guess for what their hopes for that item are/were.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#675
On December 15 2011 04:49 Sabin010 wrote:
What you think that novelty game is actually going to evolve into a game as big as sr? I mean they could have spend the engineering time making a replay system instead of a new map; yes I was being sarcastic, but do you honestly think people are going to want to watch dominion as much as they're watching games of sr?


I absolutely don't think it's going to become big. But is it fun to play when you're sick of getting trolled in solo q? Damn straight it is. They need to come out with replays, it's true. But dear god, whining about it isn't going to make it happen any faster.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17265 Posts
December 14 2011 19:51 GMT
#676
There's just not really any way of getting around LoL's need for a replay system, but they don't seem particularly keen on investing resources to make it happen.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 14 2011 19:52 GMT
#677
On December 15 2011 04:51 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 04:43 Sabin010 wrote:
Riot should really release their own replay system. Too bad they're too busy balancing dominion to even work on a replay feature.

Different teams....
Balance team has nothing to do with the programmers/development of new features.

But it should come out soon. Didn't Moonbear say they *wanted* it to come out with season 2? They normally don't announce stuff officially anymore unless it's actually going to come out within the next 1-2 months. Since the whole community essentially shit talked them for the past 2 years because they has a thought "hey we want to make a replay system eventually!" and everyone was like "FUCK YOU RIOT, WHY YOU NO GIVE IT TO US YET?!"
I know if any of my programmer friends had to work with adobe air for everything Riot has already done for the game they'd probably have killed themselves by now lol.

Only Marcou has pretty much come out and said Riot doesnt give a shit about replays and thinks that they dont actually need it.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 19:55:20
December 14 2011 19:53 GMT
#678
As there has been no discussion of the Christmas Runes since I posted them, I assume all of you must have the ARPEN/MPEN/HP/MVSPD quints and that's why you don't care that the "Snowdown Showdown" quints are equal strength at 25% off.

Or is this how it's always been done? I thought I heard Halloween runes last year were ~10% weaker and half price.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 14 2011 19:55 GMT
#679
On December 15 2011 04:51 Ryalnos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 04:13 gtrsrs wrote:
On December 15 2011 03:59 Ryalnos wrote:
On December 15 2011 03:53 BlackPaladin wrote:
The idea is probably to make it a mini-ignite. Numbers can always be adjusted.


Well, one key difference is that it's activated on a target area, not a champion.


shhh... this is TL, where you read the first 3 words of a post instead of the whole thing before you post
i'm fully expecting someone to come in in a page or so and ask why warwick has a new DoT ability


I suppose that's a fair point on how someone might misinterpret my comment.

I meant, of course, that I thought "mini-ignite" was probably not that strong of a guess for what their hopes for that item are/were.


I misread it as "50 damage to target" and I missed the "area" part. lol So ignite just came to mind cause itemizing some summoners would be pretty cool to me. D:
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17265 Posts
December 14 2011 19:55 GMT
#680
I can't see ever wanting mpen quints.
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