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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Korea (South)3851 Posts
December 14 2011 15:46 GMT
#621
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Wammens
Profile Joined October 2010
12 Posts
December 14 2011 15:51 GMT
#622
On December 15 2011 00:43 Requizen wrote:
In other news, I tried out Wukong a bit last night with having no idea how to build him. I went something like Merc's > Wriggle's > Bruta > BT > game ended before I could get LW. Regular bruiser runes, 9/21/0 or something like that. I went R > Q > E > W.

There's not really a Wukong guide here, but how do I play the monkey? He seems fun, but with no real burst and runs through mana like no one's business.


I like to go wriggles, mercs, brutalizer, atmogs. He is best as tanky dps imo.
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
December 14 2011 16:01 GMT
#623
Same runes and masteries, but I max E before Q mostly for the CDR and attack speed boost. Having a phage after Wriggles lets you get kills pretty quick just because of the proc. He trades decently after like level 5 and then when you hit 6 you turn into a melee annie.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 14 2011 16:01 GMT
#624
Possible it's been posted, but I didn't see it. More datamined stuff:

Doran's Scroll (100+ HP, 100+ Mana, 8% Spell Vamp

Warwick's Firebomb (Active: Sets a target area on fire, dealing up to 50 damage to targets in the area over 10 seconds. 1 minute cooldown, grants 3 HP5)

Lux's Prism (Active: Briefly tags a target area with light. Any stealthed champions caught in the area are revealed for 8 seconds. 1 minute cooldown. 1.5 Mp5)

Krigger's Barrier (Adds a 1k HP spell shield)
Abpon's Paper Fan (Active is an indefinate stun)
Katsudion's Glue Gun (Active is an indefinate 50% slow)
Tosajiro's Funny Mask (Active is an indefinate snare)
(I believe the above 4 items may be for testing purposes only)

Runegorger (50 AD, 40 MR, 16% Life Steal. UNIQUE Passive: You gain 1 Attack Damage and 1 Magic Resistance for each 16 magic damage you take, stacking up to 50 Attack Damage and 50 Magic Resistance. Lasts 8 seconds.) Looks like it will be made from a Hexdrinker and a Vamp Scepter.

Hextech Souldrainer (50 AP, 250 Mana, UNIQUE Passive: For every 2.5% of missing health you gain 1% Spell Vamp.)


Ryze gets his own item, I guess. Maybe supports will consider taking it too? Probably not.
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Shifft
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1085 Posts
December 14 2011 16:06 GMT
#625
Runegorger would be pretty cool for a lot of bruisers, can replace wriggles with that against casters and not lose out on the sustain.
=O
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
December 14 2011 16:08 GMT
#626
I really like activatable items so it's nice to see more of them. I wish they'd import some of the dominion items over too. Hextech sweeper is pretty cool.
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Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 16:16:57
December 14 2011 16:08 GMT
#627
On December 15 2011 01:01 Requizen wrote:
Possible it's been posted, but I didn't see it. More datamined stuff:

Show nested quote +
Doran's Scroll (100+ HP, 100+ Mana, 8% Spell Vamp

Warwick's Firebomb (Active: Sets a target area on fire, dealing up to 50 damage to targets in the area over 10 seconds. 1 minute cooldown, grants 3 HP5)

Lux's Prism (Active: Briefly tags a target area with light. Any stealthed champions caught in the area are revealed for 8 seconds. 1 minute cooldown. 1.5 Mp5)

Krigger's Barrier (Adds a 1k HP spell shield)
Abpon's Paper Fan (Active is an indefinate stun)
Katsudion's Glue Gun (Active is an indefinate 50% slow)
Tosajiro's Funny Mask (Active is an indefinate snare)
(I believe the above 4 items may be for testing purposes only)

Runegorger (50 AD, 40 MR, 16% Life Steal. UNIQUE Passive: You gain 1 Attack Damage and 1 Magic Resistance for each 16 magic damage you take, stacking up to 50 Attack Damage and 50 Magic Resistance. Lasts 8 seconds.) Looks like it will be made from a Hexdrinker and a Vamp Scepter.

Hextech Souldrainer (50 AP, 250 Mana, UNIQUE Passive: For every 2.5% of missing health you gain 1% Spell Vamp.)


Ryze gets his own item, I guess. Maybe supports will consider taking it too? Probably not.


Hmmm, what's the source on this?

Warwick's Firebomb seems bizarrely weak - 3 Hp5 and a 5 dps active? Seems useless even if cheap.

I suppose something like Lux's Prism has been added to assist in countering the soon-to-be-remade stealth without requiring oracles/pink wards? 1.5 Mp5 is kinda hilariously low, though.

Are those 4 items you suggested might be for 'testing' only single-use?

Also, runegorger seems pretty strong, depending on how expensive it is.


Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
December 14 2011 16:11 GMT
#628
Runegorger is pretty sweet. Glad Hexdrink MIGHT be more useful.
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Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 14 2011 16:13 GMT
#629
Datamined from the client. However, I'm really skeptical that we'll see any of that live in the near future. This patch seems to have unintentionally included a lot of stuff that isn't ready/intended for release.

Maybe someone should ask GuardsmanBob if Doran's Scroll was the other option from the Ionia versus Noxus match.
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Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 16:15:58
December 14 2011 16:14 GMT
#630
Runegorger looks like a good alternative to wriggles in match ups vs akali, singed, rumble, morge, etc.
On December 15 2011 01:13 Seuss wrote:
Maybe someone should ask GuardsmanBob if Doran's Scroll was the other option from the Ionia versus Noxus match.

I was thinking the same thing
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
December 14 2011 16:20 GMT
#631
Runegorger does look interesting. At full stacks its only behind sword of the occult for AD and would be flat-out the best MR item. I mean, you'd have to take 800 damage first but that's not too hard to hit against AoE or whatnot. Plus the 8 second duration lets you keep it up for a fight. The more I think about it the more I would love to see an item like that 'cuz hexdrinker is already decent midgame item just it never goes anywhere.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
December 14 2011 16:20 GMT
#632
Finally got 30. Time to do ranked!
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
December 14 2011 16:25 GMT
#633
On December 15 2011 01:20 Treadmill wrote:
Runegorger does look interesting. At full stacks its only behind sword of the occult for AD and would be flat-out the best MR item. I mean, you'd have to take 800 damage first but that's not too hard to hit against AoE or whatnot. Plus the 8 second duration lets you keep it up for a fight. The more I think about it the more I would love to see an item like that 'cuz hexdrinker is already decent midgame item just it never goes anywhere.

I didn't see it stacked up ad. It's now automatically core on Tryn.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 14 2011 16:34 GMT
#634
On December 15 2011 01:01 Requizen wrote:
Possible it's been posted, but I didn't see it. More datamined stuff:

Show nested quote +
Doran's Scroll (100+ HP, 100+ Mana, 8% Spell Vamp

Warwick's Firebomb (Active: Sets a target area on fire, dealing up to 50 damage to targets in the area over 10 seconds. 1 minute cooldown, grants 3 HP5)

Lux's Prism (Active: Briefly tags a target area with light. Any stealthed champions caught in the area are revealed for 8 seconds. 1 minute cooldown. 1.5 Mp5)

Krigger's Barrier (Adds a 1k HP spell shield)
Abpon's Paper Fan (Active is an indefinate stun)
Katsudion's Glue Gun (Active is an indefinate 50% slow)
Tosajiro's Funny Mask (Active is an indefinate snare)
(I believe the above 4 items may be for testing purposes only)

Runegorger (50 AD, 40 MR, 16% Life Steal. UNIQUE Passive: You gain 1 Attack Damage and 1 Magic Resistance for each 16 magic damage you take, stacking up to 50 Attack Damage and 50 Magic Resistance. Lasts 8 seconds.) Looks like it will be made from a Hexdrinker and a Vamp Scepter.

Hextech Souldrainer (50 AP, 250 Mana, UNIQUE Passive: For every 2.5% of missing health you gain 1% Spell Vamp.)


Ryze gets his own item, I guess. Maybe supports will consider taking it too? Probably not.

I wouldn't call copypasting text from a file called fontconfig.txt dataminging. Apparently they're items that used to be in the gamefiles and didn't make it trough testing or whatever.
For example, this can be found in the same file:
tr "AAS-HOUR-3-5" = "You are restricted and now into the tiredness game time, your reward from game will be restricted to 50%. For your heath, please log out, make some exercises, and manage your life and studying better."
tr "AAS-HOUR-5-ABOVE" = "You are restricted and now into the indulgence game time. For your health, you need to log out immediately. Otherwise, your body will have physical damage. Your reward from game will be restricted to zero. You will only return to normal when your log-out time reaches 5 hours."
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 14 2011 16:35 GMT
#635
On December 15 2011 01:01 Requizen wrote:
Possible it's been posted, but I didn't see it. More datamined stuff:

Show nested quote +
Doran's Scroll (100+ HP, 100+ Mana, 8% Spell Vamp

Warwick's Firebomb (Active: Sets a target area on fire, dealing up to 50 damage to targets in the area over 10 seconds. 1 minute cooldown, grants 3 HP5)

Lux's Prism (Active: Briefly tags a target area with light. Any stealthed champions caught in the area are revealed for 8 seconds. 1 minute cooldown. 1.5 Mp5)

Krigger's Barrier (Adds a 1k HP spell shield)
Abpon's Paper Fan (Active is an indefinate stun)
Katsudion's Glue Gun (Active is an indefinate 50% slow)
Tosajiro's Funny Mask (Active is an indefinate snare)
(I believe the above 4 items may be for testing purposes only)

Runegorger (50 AD, 40 MR, 16% Life Steal. UNIQUE Passive: You gain 1 Attack Damage and 1 Magic Resistance for each 16 magic damage you take, stacking up to 50 Attack Damage and 50 Magic Resistance. Lasts 8 seconds.) Looks like it will be made from a Hexdrinker and a Vamp Scepter.

Hextech Souldrainer (50 AP, 250 Mana, UNIQUE Passive: For every 2.5% of missing health you gain 1% Spell Vamp.)


Ryze gets his own item, I guess. Maybe supports will consider taking it too? Probably not.

pretty sure those items aren't coming out any time soon if at all. I remember seeing a red post that explained that the 4 active ones were joke items put in by Shurelia and that Runegorger was the original design for hexdrinker.
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KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
December 14 2011 16:36 GMT
#636
Sounds like WoW parental controls ahaha
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
December 14 2011 16:42 GMT
#637
On December 15 2011 01:34 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 01:01 Requizen wrote:
Possible it's been posted, but I didn't see it. More datamined stuff:

Doran's Scroll (100+ HP, 100+ Mana, 8% Spell Vamp

Warwick's Firebomb (Active: Sets a target area on fire, dealing up to 50 damage to targets in the area over 10 seconds. 1 minute cooldown, grants 3 HP5)

Lux's Prism (Active: Briefly tags a target area with light. Any stealthed champions caught in the area are revealed for 8 seconds. 1 minute cooldown. 1.5 Mp5)

Krigger's Barrier (Adds a 1k HP spell shield)
Abpon's Paper Fan (Active is an indefinate stun)
Katsudion's Glue Gun (Active is an indefinate 50% slow)
Tosajiro's Funny Mask (Active is an indefinate snare)
(I believe the above 4 items may be for testing purposes only)

Runegorger (50 AD, 40 MR, 16% Life Steal. UNIQUE Passive: You gain 1 Attack Damage and 1 Magic Resistance for each 16 magic damage you take, stacking up to 50 Attack Damage and 50 Magic Resistance. Lasts 8 seconds.) Looks like it will be made from a Hexdrinker and a Vamp Scepter.

Hextech Souldrainer (50 AP, 250 Mana, UNIQUE Passive: For every 2.5% of missing health you gain 1% Spell Vamp.)


Ryze gets his own item, I guess. Maybe supports will consider taking it too? Probably not.

I wouldn't call copypasting text from a file called fontconfig.txt dataminging. Apparently they're items that used to be in the gamefiles and didn't make it trough testing or whatever.
For example, this can be found in the same file:
tr "AAS-HOUR-3-5" = "You are restricted and now into the tiredness game time, your reward from game will be restricted to 50%. For your heath, please log out, make some exercises, and manage your life and studying better."
tr "AAS-HOUR-5-ABOVE" = "You are restricted and now into the indulgence game time. For your health, you need to log out immediately. Otherwise, your body will have physical damage. Your reward from game will be restricted to zero. You will only return to normal when your log-out time reaches 5 hours."

LOL.
Doran's item is cute, maybe that was the one they would've put in the game instead of CDR boots
:)
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
December 14 2011 16:45 GMT
#638
Sounds more like a poorly translated version of something they'd have in China. I hear they're pretty concerned about video game addiction over there.
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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-14 17:06:59
December 14 2011 17:06 GMT
#639
On December 15 2011 00:43 Requizen wrote:
In other news, I tried out Wukong a bit last night with having no idea how to build him. I went something like Merc's > Wriggle's > Bruta > BT > game ended before I could get LW. Regular bruiser runes, 9/21/0 or something like that. I went R > Q > E > W.

There's not really a Wukong guide here, but how do I play the monkey? He seems fun, but with no real burst and runs through mana like no one's business.


Wriggles, Triforce, Atmogs... then whatever you need (with Merc Treads somewhere in there). He's not really a carry so your team has to start cooperating at some point. His burst goes way up with a Triforce or even a Sheen.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 14 2011 17:10 GMT
#640
8% vamp+ the new runes= Kennen dun need wota anymore- just be straight up gay from level 1.
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