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mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
December 13 2011 21:47 GMT
#401
On December 14 2011 06:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 05:56 red_ wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:29 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:16 red_ wrote:
Where were these hybrid penetration runes when Kayle was so big...

She's still as viable as ever.


Considering that she used to be the unquestioned #1 champ in the game(immediately after first rework) I'm going to go ahead and say no, she's not anywhere close to 'as viable as ever.' Even if you are of the (wrong) view that she is a 'strong' carry right now, 'as viable as ever' implies she is currently at a state that matches her best, which is certainly untrue.

Of course I could've just laughed and pointed out how she's really not in a good place right now, but that's less fun.

I think she's decent, I play as support dps... She has very good aoe dps... Obviously there are better picks, but I wouldn't necessarily say she's not viable.

You should try her top. A 1k8 friend of mine has an 85% win ratio with her atm, she's kind of a ranged tryndamere. It's funny.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 13 2011 21:47 GMT
#402
On December 14 2011 06:43 warscythes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 06:42 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:56 red_ wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:29 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:16 red_ wrote:
Where were these hybrid penetration runes when Kayle was so big...

She's still as viable as ever.


Considering that she used to be the unquestioned #1 champ in the game(immediately after first rework) I'm going to go ahead and say no, she's not anywhere close to 'as viable as ever.' Even if you are of the (wrong) view that she is a 'strong' carry right now, 'as viable as ever' implies she is currently at a state that matches her best, which is certainly untrue.

Of course I could've just laughed and pointed out how she's really not in a good place right now, but that's less fun.

I think she's decent, I play as support dps... She has very good aoe dps... Obviously there are better picks, but I wouldn't necessarily say she's not viable.


Every champion in the game is viable in solo queue

Some are just more viable than others.

I don't deny this fact, but I would put her somewhere in hte middle of the list in terms of viability. Just average in every way.

though I wish they would add some more clutchness to her heal, similar to soraka's heal that gives a shit ton of armor, or like nidalee's that increases attack speed.

increased movement speed isn't at all significant, with that heal.
liftlift > tsm
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
December 13 2011 21:49 GMT
#403
I like to use her heal in conjunction with her nuke and ult when diving some one at level six.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 13 2011 21:50 GMT
#404
On December 14 2011 06:47 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 06:42 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:56 red_ wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:29 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:16 red_ wrote:
Where were these hybrid penetration runes when Kayle was so big...

She's still as viable as ever.


Considering that she used to be the unquestioned #1 champ in the game(immediately after first rework) I'm going to go ahead and say no, she's not anywhere close to 'as viable as ever.' Even if you are of the (wrong) view that she is a 'strong' carry right now, 'as viable as ever' implies she is currently at a state that matches her best, which is certainly untrue.

Of course I could've just laughed and pointed out how she's really not in a good place right now, but that's less fun.

I think she's decent, I play as support dps... She has very good aoe dps... Obviously there are better picks, but I wouldn't necessarily say she's not viable.

You should try her top. A 1k8 friend of mine has an 85% win ratio with her atm, she's kind of a ranged tryndamere. It's funny.

I've gotten so many pentakills with kayle, but I've also been owned really hard while using her. If the enemy team underestimates you, and doesn't burst you down, then you fucking RAPE everything, but if they burst you down, not even that 2.5sec invincibility is gunna do shit.
liftlift > tsm
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 13 2011 21:51 GMT
#405
Anyone know why the spotlight is not up yet
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 21:54:15
December 13 2011 21:53 GMT
#406
Probably won't be up till tomorrow (or right before tomorrow), since Ahri's release is supposed to coincide with Korea's.
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arto
Profile Joined April 2010
United States59 Posts
December 13 2011 21:54 GMT
#407
On December 14 2011 06:51 jaybrundage wrote:
Anyone know why the spotlight is not up yet

She is being released tomorrow, so that is when the spotlight should be.
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
December 13 2011 21:55 GMT
#408
huh i guess there not releasing her for another day. Kinda sucks there holding the champ spotlight for her tho : (
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
December 13 2011 21:56 GMT
#409
Why are the hybrid runes listed as "Increase Armor Penetration by 1.00% and Magic Penetration by .57%"

Are they actually percentage penetration or is this just a typo?
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
December 13 2011 21:57 GMT
#410
Pretty sure it was flat when I looked in the store.
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Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 13 2011 21:59 GMT
#411
Kayle top is like teemo top. cept she uses more mana and teamfights better later in the game.
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overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 13 2011 22:00 GMT
#412
On December 14 2011 06:39 Noocta wrote:
I don't understand what Ezreal have with true damage champions these days.
First Irelia, then Vayne, and now Ninetail fox..



Well, on the bright side, at least Ahri doesn't even really have a passive. I mean, every 10 spells she gets 35% spell vamp? That won't even help out in laning and unless she has really low cool downs it probably won't help much outside of laning.

Plus, her true damage is on the return trip of her Q so I'm gonna assume it'll be pretty easy to dodge like how Sivir's boomerang blade does more damage on the return trip but it's no big deal 'cause it should never hit you. Although if her Q has a really fast travel time then I could see the true damage being a problem.

I just hope she isn't too assassin-y. People will inevitably bitch about her until she gets nerfed just like every other assassin.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 22:03:41
December 13 2011 22:01 GMT
#413
On December 14 2011 06:47 mr_tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 06:42 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:56 red_ wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:29 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:16 red_ wrote:
Where were these hybrid penetration runes when Kayle was so big...

She's still as viable as ever.


Considering that she used to be the unquestioned #1 champ in the game(immediately after first rework) I'm going to go ahead and say no, she's not anywhere close to 'as viable as ever.' Even if you are of the (wrong) view that she is a 'strong' carry right now, 'as viable as ever' implies she is currently at a state that matches her best, which is certainly untrue.

Of course I could've just laughed and pointed out how she's really not in a good place right now, but that's less fun.

I think she's decent, I play as support dps... She has very good aoe dps... Obviously there are better picks, but I wouldn't necessarily say she's not viable.

You should try her top. A 1k8 friend of mine has an 85% win ratio with her atm, she's kind of a ranged tryndamere. It's funny.


I jungled her on a whim the other day. She's surprisingly effective.

Edit: Also, 1k8 is the weirdest notation for 1800 Elo.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
December 13 2011 22:03 GMT
#414
Quick lesson on Volibear gogo

<3
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 13 2011 22:06 GMT
#415
On December 14 2011 07:01 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 06:47 mr_tolkien wrote:
On December 14 2011 06:42 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:56 red_ wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:29 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:16 red_ wrote:
Where were these hybrid penetration runes when Kayle was so big...

She's still as viable as ever.


Considering that she used to be the unquestioned #1 champ in the game(immediately after first rework) I'm going to go ahead and say no, she's not anywhere close to 'as viable as ever.' Even if you are of the (wrong) view that she is a 'strong' carry right now, 'as viable as ever' implies she is currently at a state that matches her best, which is certainly untrue.

Of course I could've just laughed and pointed out how she's really not in a good place right now, but that's less fun.

I think she's decent, I play as support dps... She has very good aoe dps... Obviously there are better picks, but I wouldn't necessarily say she's not viable.

You should try her top. A 1k8 friend of mine has an 85% win ratio with her atm, she's kind of a ranged tryndamere. It's funny.


I jungled her on a whim the other day. She's surprisingly effective.

Edit: Also, 1k8 is the weirdest notation for 1800 Elo.


Hmm I wanna try it now... It should be fairly effective. Decent light CC (dat slow), Aoe dmg (great for clearing out camps), a Heal.

I really want to try this, maybe tonight....
liftlift > tsm
Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
December 13 2011 22:06 GMT
#416
On December 14 2011 06:39 Noocta wrote:
[...]Sivir's boomerang blade does more damage on the return trip[...]

I think you misworded that, Sivir's Q doesn't do more damage while returning.
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-13 22:08:13
December 13 2011 22:07 GMT
#417
On December 14 2011 07:00 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 06:39 Noocta wrote:
I don't understand what Ezreal have with true damage champions these days.
First Irelia, then Vayne, and now Ninetail fox..



Well, on the bright side, at least Ahri doesn't even really have a passive. I mean, every 10 spells she gets 35% spell vamp? That won't even help out in laning and unless she has really low cool downs it probably won't help much outside of laning.

Every 9 charges, and her spells can each build multiple charges (max 3). The Q orb can hit multiple targets, the W "lock ons" are going to hit the nearest 3, and her ultimate also damages 3 and can be cast 3 times itself.
I will eat you alive
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
December 13 2011 22:07 GMT
#418
On December 14 2011 07:01 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 06:47 mr_tolkien wrote:
On December 14 2011 06:42 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:56 red_ wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:29 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:16 red_ wrote:
Where were these hybrid penetration runes when Kayle was so big...

She's still as viable as ever.


Considering that she used to be the unquestioned #1 champ in the game(immediately after first rework) I'm going to go ahead and say no, she's not anywhere close to 'as viable as ever.' Even if you are of the (wrong) view that she is a 'strong' carry right now, 'as viable as ever' implies she is currently at a state that matches her best, which is certainly untrue.

Of course I could've just laughed and pointed out how she's really not in a good place right now, but that's less fun.

I think she's decent, I play as support dps... She has very good aoe dps... Obviously there are better picks, but I wouldn't necessarily say she's not viable.

You should try her top. A 1k8 friend of mine has an 85% win ratio with her atm, she's kind of a ranged tryndamere. It's funny.


I jungled her on a whim the other day. She's surprisingly effective.

Edit: Also, 1k8 is the weirdest notation for 1800 Elo.

Isn't 1k8 -> 1000 + 8 = 1008 ELO?
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
December 13 2011 22:10 GMT
#419
On December 14 2011 07:06 Lanzoma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 06:39 Noocta wrote:
[...]Sivir's boomerang blade does more damage on the return trip[...]

I think you misworded that, Sivir's Q doesn't do more damage while returning.


Yeah, I'm retarded. My fault. Still, I don't think Ahri's Q doing true damage will be too big of a deal unless it has crazy fast travel time. Should be easy to dodge since you'll know exactly where it's going to travel.


On December 14 2011 07:07 FieryBalrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 07:00 overt wrote:
On December 14 2011 06:39 Noocta wrote:
I don't understand what Ezreal have with true damage champions these days.
First Irelia, then Vayne, and now Ninetail fox..



Well, on the bright side, at least Ahri doesn't even really have a passive. I mean, every 10 spells she gets 35% spell vamp? That won't even help out in laning and unless she has really low cool downs it probably won't help much outside of laning.

Every 9 charges, and her spells can each build multiple charges (max 3). The Q orb can hit multiple targets, the W "lock ons" are going to hit the nearest 3, and her ultimate also damages 3 and can be cast 3 times itself.


Hmm, I misread it then. I'm just being all kinds of stupid today. It might be decent in lane and team fights then but it still seems like a worse version of Morgana passive.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
December 13 2011 22:13 GMT
#420
On December 14 2011 07:07 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2011 07:01 Seuss wrote:
On December 14 2011 06:47 mr_tolkien wrote:
On December 14 2011 06:42 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:56 red_ wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:29 wei2coolman wrote:
On December 14 2011 05:16 red_ wrote:
Where were these hybrid penetration runes when Kayle was so big...

She's still as viable as ever.


Considering that she used to be the unquestioned #1 champ in the game(immediately after first rework) I'm going to go ahead and say no, she's not anywhere close to 'as viable as ever.' Even if you are of the (wrong) view that she is a 'strong' carry right now, 'as viable as ever' implies she is currently at a state that matches her best, which is certainly untrue.

Of course I could've just laughed and pointed out how she's really not in a good place right now, but that's less fun.

I think she's decent, I play as support dps... She has very good aoe dps... Obviously there are better picks, but I wouldn't necessarily say she's not viable.

You should try her top. A 1k8 friend of mine has an 85% win ratio with her atm, she's kind of a ranged tryndamere. It's funny.


I jungled her on a whim the other day. She's surprisingly effective.

Edit: Also, 1k8 is the weirdest notation for 1800 Elo.

Isn't 1k8 -> 1000 + 8 = 1008 ELO?

OH shit, didn't even notice. lol!

Nvm, not taking advice from this dude, no more! jkjkjk
liftlift > tsm
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