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[Patch 1.0.0.131: Ahri] General Discussion - Page 181
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Mios
United States686 Posts
anyone else watch that? | ||
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little fancy
Germany2504 Posts
Lategame Vayne damage >>> everything else. Unexpected comeback, but all in all a kinda unnecessary long game (Chauster didn't describe both MiG teams playing "too pussy" lol). on another topic (maybe it has been stated, but I didn't read the whole thread so far): Anyone knows what exactly riot's plans on nerfing Ahri are? | ||
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Shiv.
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Malphite ulting a whole team into Morgana-Kennen-allmightyLocoOnGraves-ults, he is like ''Awwww what the fuuuuuuuuck.'' 5 seconds of silence. ''#1 professional commentary'' On December 26 2011 22:07 little fancy wrote: Anyone knows what exactly riot's plans on nerfing Ahri are? I highly doubt they're going to nerf her anytime soon. She's not as blatantly stupidly overpowered like Graves or Fizz on release and her comparably hard playstyle detains bads from totally raping other bads with her. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
On December 26 2011 17:06 Alzadar wrote: How do people build TF? Even if you're building him as an AP (which I think is best), I feel you can't just ignore his kit and building him as a burst caster isn't good to generate good results. I've been tinkering with a TF build over a handful of games, and this is the best I've come up with: Boots, Sheen, Malady, Rageblade, Frozen Mallet, Lichbane*, Void Staff* *I've never actually gotten to this point, the games have been ending too early The Sheen seems like an obvious choice, it's cheap and cost effective and you benefit from all of the stats. Malady gives you some AP which is nice, extra magic damage on your autos, attack speed for proc'ing your E and MR shred which is all around good. Then you get the Guinsoo's which is boosted already by Malady (that's why I get it first), gives you very cost efficient AP + even more attack speed, and it's easy to maintain stacks. At this point you start needing some defence because you need to be close to the action to be effective, so Frozen Mallet seems like a good choice. Lots of health + the passive fits in perfectly with how you function. I tried Rod of Ages instead a bit but it's a bit late in the game to be getting it and I didn't really like it much. Lichbane and Void Staff seem like natural endgame items. Burst ap, like you do with sion basically. Deathcap+lichbane+void staff then get zhoyna's for lulz backdoor (invincible tp)> get sheen if your golds right for it early and you're actually gonna make use of it well, otherwise just go for deathcap and some dorans. Frozen mallet is terrible item for survivability lol, just get good positioning like you have to do with all squishys. | ||
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Cirn9
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Shiv.
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On December 26 2011 23:41 Goshawk. wrote: Burst ap, like you do with sion basically. Deathcap+lichbane+void staff then get zhoyna's for lulz backdoor (invincible tp)> get sheen if your golds right for it early and you're actually gonna make use of it well, otherwise just go for deathcap and some dorans. Frozen mallet is terrible item for survivability lol, just get good positioning like you have to do with all squishys. IIRC, they patched the Ult->Zhonya's Combo. On December 26 2011 23:43 Cirn9 wrote: Can Ahri's ult jump walls? Yep. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On December 26 2011 20:02 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Yes, buffs belong to the jungler, but if you want to win the game it's usually best to give blue to your ap carry. In solo queue I think you should keep them for a while though. Because chances are giving your blue to the AP carry, and giving your red to the AD carry, they will just feed it away anyway. Yesterday I had a game where I gave the second blue to my Kassadin to help him snowball after he got FB, and then he just ended up dying to Ryze a minute later : / Also I think there's a bigger problem in the jungle: people stealing your small camps when you're killing them. I've had so many times where I'm killing the wraiths or something mid-game and then Sion (or whoever on my team) comes in with his shield and trololol instagibs all the wraiths/wolves/golems. : | | ||
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tobi9999
United States1966 Posts
So, after completing IE, PD, BT, LW, and boots I decided "why not build frozen mallet" Then I went to take our red buff after getting mallet. honestly, i expected people to be slowed so hard that they could barely move, but I didn't really feel a big difference between just having Ashe Q applied :/ | ||
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zer0das
United States8519 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On December 27 2011 04:23 tobi9999 wrote: I got retardedly fed as ashe by getting like 5 kills under 4 minutes in a game So, after completing IE, PD, BT, LW, and boots I decided "why not build frozen mallet" Then I went to take our red buff after getting mallet. honestly, i expected people to be slowed so hard that they could barely move, but I didn't really feel a big difference between just having Ashe Q applied :/ That's because they don't fully stack and it's mulitplicative. The way slows work is the strongest slow is applied in full, then all other slows are reduced by 35% and are applied mulitplicatively. That's why Frozen Mallet is terrible on Ashe. It's impossible to slow someone to a stop no matter how many slow skills/items you have (unless you're Nasus; Wither OP). Source: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Slow#Decreasing_Movement_Speed | ||
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Treadmill
Canada2833 Posts
On December 27 2011 04:56 Ryuu314 wrote: That's because they don't fully stack and it's mulitplicative. The way slows work is the strongest slow is applied in full, then all other slows are reduced by 35% and are applied mulitplicatively. That's why Frozen Mallet is terrible on Ashe. It's impossible to slow someone to a stop no matter how many slow skills/items you have (unless you're Nasus; Wither OP). Source: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Slow#Decreasing_Movement_Speed Movement speed increases are additive, though, right? Say if you had FoN (+8%) and Trinity (+12%) that would give you a straight 20% bonus, right? (Obviously less the penalties for going past 415/490). | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
Also, is this build decent? 21/8/1, flash/teleport (or flash/ignite). mpen red mana per5 yellows. cdr blues. ap quints. 2-3 dorans ring boots. catalyst->roa deathcap rylais zhonya's abyssal | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On December 27 2011 05:07 Treadmill wrote: Movement speed increases are additive, though, right? Say if you had FoN (+8%) and Trinity (+12%) that would give you a straight 20% bonus, right? (Obviously less the penalties for going past 415/490). I think so. Movespeed bonuses are kept in check with the whole diminishing returns thing. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
On December 27 2011 05:29 wei2coolman wrote: So just got Gragas, have been having great success with him. Is it just me or he's one of teh few champions that can delay getting boots for a long ass time? Also, is this build decent? 21/8/1, flash/teleport (or flash/ignite). mpen red mana per5 yellows. cdr blues. ap quints. 2-3 dorans ring boots. catalyst->roa deathcap rylais zhonya's abyssal He doesnt really need RoA imo I usually build him 2 dorans sorcs and straight DC. I dont think he needs Rylais either especially since the slow isn't good for his AoE. After DC I usually go Void Staff/Zhonyas then if it gets late Abyssal. I really dislike Rylais on him. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 27 2011 05:44 Bladeorade wrote: He doesnt really need RoA imo I usually build him 2 dorans sorcs and straight DC. I dont think he needs Rylais either especially since the slow isn't good for his AoE. After DC I usually go Void Staff/Zhonyas then if it gets late Abyssal. I really dislike Rylais on him. The main reason I get it is because it makes him a lot tankier, the +500 health is super nice. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On December 27 2011 05:29 wei2coolman wrote: So just got Gragas, have been having great success with him. Is it just me or he's one of teh few champions that can delay getting boots for a long ass time? Also, is this build decent? 21/8/1, flash/teleport (or flash/ignite). mpen red mana per5 yellows. cdr blues. ap quints. 2-3 dorans ring boots. catalyst->roa deathcap rylais zhonya's abyssal Generally if you're going to stack doran's rings you don't want/need to get RoA. It'll delay your damage far too much. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 27 2011 05:52 wei2coolman wrote: The main reason I get it is because it makes him a lot tankier, the +500 health is super nice. Gragas has high base health/health gain, a healing mechanic, mediocre armor gains, and no MR gain. You'd get tankier more quickly getting Chain/Negatron faster than you would buying that much HP. Also, you're only reasonably going to get away with not having Void Staff in super pubstompy games. | ||
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
I'd load up more AP heavy runes on gragas, his ratios are through the roof. 2 dorans into deathcap, then void staff if MR is present, if not I like Lichbane, he bellyrushes into melee as part of combo so you're gonna get a melee hit in. If you land everything in succession it's a total assload of burst. | ||
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