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On December 27 2011 05:59 daemir wrote:
What they said, either you go several dorans or you go roa.
I'd load up more AP heavy runes on gragas, his ratios are through the roof. 2 dorans into deathcap, then void staff if MR is present, if not I like Lichbane, he bellyrushes into melee as part of combo so you're gonna get a melee hit in. If you land everything in succession it's a total assload of burst.
I usually dont belly flop in till a kill is near. Barrels on such a low cooldown you can just spam them and then ult them out of position and belly flop whoever is closest. He cant really make use of Lichbane as well as some other champs I don't think.
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Body Slam slows them, means you can hit your barrel 100% of the time. Don't be afraid to spam it, make sure you just do more damage than the person can to you. Body Slam + Barrel + Lichbane hit combo is a lot of burst, and Gragas can pull it off well.
Gragas has high ratios, and people know it. If you poke a couple barrels (that hit them) they start to play cautious, and you might not get a kill. Bursting them catches them off-guard.
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Somewhat random question, what do you do if you're AD bot and enemy zil support bombs you everytime you take a cs?
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On December 27 2011 07:04 JackDino wrote:
Somewhat random question, what do you do if you're AD bot and enemy zil support bombs you everytime you take a cs?
If it's draft, just have your support pick someone with a heal. Zil will run OOM faster than your support, and the heal will keep you alive. If your support is a non-healer, I usually just let them push to the tower and farm under there. Also, bush control is your best friend.
Getting a fast NMM is nice too, but it doesn't really build into anything super useful for AD champs.
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On December 27 2011 07:04 JackDino wrote:
Somewhat random question, what do you do if you're AD bot and enemy zil support bombs you everytime you take a cs?
Harass him, and make sure his bombs hit all of your creeps. Zil support is useless if you're making sure that he's stealing his ADs cs and youre farming safely under your tower. His ad will rage at him for taking cs and you'll win the lane ezpz.
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On December 27 2011 07:04 JackDino wrote:
Somewhat random question, what do you do if you're AD bot and enemy zil support bombs you everytime you take a cs?
Zilean's bombs have very long range, so staying out of range is not an option. The best defense vs Zilean bombs is to have a support that can shield like Janna. Once Zilean applies the bomb, after 2 seconds, have Janna shield to absorb the damage. Janna levels shield first anyways, so she will not have to stray from her usual skill route. Zilean is able to double bomb to get through Janna's shield, but the mana cost from rewind makes it a very expensive harass. Other than shield supports, heal supports also do the job as long as they put enough points into their heal to keep up with bomb damage.
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On December 27 2011 06:44 Ym1r wrote:
Body Slam slows them, means you can hit your barrel 100% of the time. Don't be afraid to spam it, make sure you just do more damage than the person can to you. Body Slam + Barrel + Lichbane hit combo is a lot of burst, and Gragas can pull it off well.
Gragas has high ratios, and people know it. If you poke a couple barrels (that hit them) they start to play cautious, and you might not get a kill. Bursting them catches them off-guard.
I was talking about in team fights. If you do this sure you may burst them down, but you put yourself in a position to also get bursted down.
Do you not?
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On December 27 2011 07:04 JackDino wrote:
Somewhat random question, what do you do if you're AD bot and enemy zil support bombs you everytime you take a cs?
Uhh in addition to what other people said, you an also get an aggressive lane and play pretty aggro levels 1-4. Like if you have ali-trist for instance, when zil comes forward to bomb, you can just jump his asshole...i mean i have played a few games of support zil, and it seems strong, but 1. you run out of mana so fucking fast, 2. if other team has sustain, they can harass you and you are just sad
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On December 27 2011 07:43 Bladeorade wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 06:44 Ym1r wrote:
Body Slam slows them, means you can hit your barrel 100% of the time. Don't be afraid to spam it, make sure you just do more damage than the person can to you. Body Slam + Barrel + Lichbane hit combo is a lot of burst, and Gragas can pull it off well.
Gragas has high ratios, and people know it. If you poke a couple barrels (that hit them) they start to play cautious, and you might not get a kill. Bursting them catches them off-guard. I was talking about in team fights. If you do this sure you may burst them down, but you put yourself in a position to also get bursted down. Do you not?
I'm not hugely experienced with Gragas because I just started playing him, but in my experience, it really depends on the comps. Some team fights you need to sorta dance around the edge throwing barrels. But if you can displace a carry into your team with a good ult, then you smash your belly into their face and it's gg.
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On December 27 2011 07:43 Bladeorade wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 06:44 Ym1r wrote:
Body Slam slows them, means you can hit your barrel 100% of the time. Don't be afraid to spam it, make sure you just do more damage than the person can to you. Body Slam + Barrel + Lichbane hit combo is a lot of burst, and Gragas can pull it off well.
Gragas has high ratios, and people know it. If you poke a couple barrels (that hit them) they start to play cautious, and you might not get a kill. Bursting them catches them off-guard. I was talking about in team fights. If you do this sure you may burst them down, but you put yourself in a position to also get bursted down. Do you not?
Yeah, in team fights you just poke, until you can safely Body Slam. But in lane and 1v1 situations you do what I said. I also specifically said, you have to make sure you do more damage than the person can to you.
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Gragas W gives some dmg reduction, it's a hella better put your fat ass in the line instead your AD carry, so if your team isn't on the meaty side, nothing wrong with tossing out a barrel, ult and then bellyrush in to soak some damage that could have been going towards your AD.
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Last season elo finish: 1249
This season elo: 1407
Highest I've ever been. Feels good to get better.
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in teamfights gragas pokes until he can get a ult off that either splits up their team, brings someone into yours, or breaks the tempo of the other team's engagement (or any of the three combined). in sieges he can even use his ult only to damage poke. its really good poke.
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So basically what I said about Gragas. I was never talking about in 1v1 situations I thought that was clear apologies.
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Why dont ap casters get any magic resist when they level up? I've always wondered this
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On December 27 2011 08:38 epoc wrote:
Why dont ap casters get any magic resist when they level up? I've always wondered this
A lot of champs dont get any mr when they lvl up not just mages.
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Just got trashed as Singed by a Mordekaiser. Granted, he was tryharding and I not (was a custom), but in all those months I had forgotten how annoying the #1 is when he pushes all day long. Good thing he fell out of flavor. 
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On December 27 2011 08:55 JackDino wrote:Show nested quote +On December 27 2011 08:38 epoc wrote:
Why dont ap casters get any magic resist when they level up? I've always wondered this A lot of champs dont get any mr when they lvl up not just mages.
Wooow thats true. Didnt notice. Just lol wikied ashe and she doesnt get any. Most bruisers do though. I dont think ad carrys get any. Why is that then? Does any ranged hero get mr per level?
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I guess it has to do with the innate tankyness of most melee champs?
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Melee champs tend to always have scaling mr because they are usually the front line in fights and without it they will all instantly die. Thats the philosophy anyways. I think the only exception to the scaling rule might be chogath.
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