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barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 08 2011 01:30 GMT
#2961
On December 08 2011 10:24 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 08:11 overt wrote:
On December 08 2011 08:02 Parnage wrote:
Rumble buffs! Callin it.

Everyone else gets to guess at stuff why can't I?


Rumble doesn't need buffs. He's still crazy strong he just went out of style among the pro players.

I would like to see those Trynd nerfs to be honest. Along with some Fizz nerfs.


I agree but I like rumble, despite the fact I never get to play him as much as I'd like so hey why not some rumble buffs sense we are kind of guessing why not?

I like Taric. I don't think he's the greatest but I think he does his job well and honestly I rather like his ult, it gives me the dmg buff I need for when one needs to get the damages done. I guess it doesn't look like much but neither does aegis but everyone knows aegis is good. I wouldnt' say he's worse then the bull or better. He just fits a different roll.



plz for the love of god, don't buff rumble....

he's already very strong
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 08 2011 01:42 GMT
#2962
On December 08 2011 10:05 warscythes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 09:51 Ryuu314 wrote:
On December 08 2011 09:36 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
On December 08 2011 08:45 Shiv. wrote:
On December 08 2011 08:42 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
Since when is tryn op :S

Since his remake.


Wasnt that like 3 months ago?

I don't see him as much of a problem.

he's a problem because they kept his mad lategame damage, but gave him free sustain in the form of a massive buff to his Q. Tryn grabs wriggles and is as unmovable from lane as Irelia and scales harder. Tryn wasn't op before remake cause he was easy to bully out of lane. Now it's near impossible.

Not to mention a free 35% crit chance means he can just build up fury, walk up to you, and get crits for an easy lane win every 3rd hit.


Actually Tryndamere's late game damage has been nerfed pretty hard. He used to have 50% crit chance at 1 hp with 32 bonus AD and 36% crit damage. Now at 1 hp he has 35% crit chance with 60 bonus AD.

Don't get me wrong, I am fairly sure Tryndamere is a bit too strong right now. But Riot definitely nerfed his late game damage.

they did nerf his lategame damage, but it's still incredibly monstrous. the fact that you can build more or less glass cannon and still be ridiculously hard to kill is insane. it's kinda the same reason why riven is border-op. it's why Jax was op before the repeated nerfs.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
December 08 2011 01:44 GMT
#2963
Tryn is a lot easier to deal with than Zombie Karthus though as long as you have enough CC to keep him from destroying you.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
asianskill
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States289 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 01:48:45
December 08 2011 01:46 GMT
#2964
On December 08 2011 10:44 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Tryn is a lot easier to deal with than Zombie Karthus though as long as you have enough CC to keep him from destroying you.


most tryns run cleanse anyways
herrro
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
December 08 2011 01:53 GMT
#2965
I still have no fucking clue what actually beats rumble top. Neo tells me that he loses to yorick, which in my head makes the holy trinity of damn near unbeatable top lanes look something like

Rumble->trynd->yorick->rumble

With Udyr the untouchable above them, and that fucking twerp teemo above him.

Of course, I suck at top lane, so I could be completely wrong with that list.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
December 08 2011 01:55 GMT
#2966
On December 08 2011 10:53 Two_DoWn wrote:
I still have no fucking clue what actually beats rumble top. Neo tells me that he loses to yorick, which in my head makes the holy trinity of damn near unbeatable top lanes look something like

Rumble->trynd->yorick->rumble

With Udyr the untouchable above them, and that fucking twerp teemo above him.

Of course, I suck at top lane, so I could be completely wrong with that list.


I generally roll rumbles with Panth but I'm probably just playing baddies
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
December 08 2011 01:59 GMT
#2967
On December 08 2011 10:53 Two_DoWn wrote:
I still have no fucking clue what actually beats rumble top. Neo tells me that he loses to yorick, which in my head makes the holy trinity of damn near unbeatable top lanes look something like

Rumble->trynd->yorick->rumble

With Udyr the untouchable above them, and that fucking twerp teemo above him.

Of course, I suck at top lane, so I could be completely wrong with that list.

I have beaten Rumble with GP
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
December 08 2011 02:05 GMT
#2968
On December 08 2011 10:59 Bladeorade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 10:53 Two_DoWn wrote:
I still have no fucking clue what actually beats rumble top. Neo tells me that he loses to yorick, which in my head makes the holy trinity of damn near unbeatable top lanes look something like

Rumble->trynd->yorick->rumble

With Udyr the untouchable above them, and that fucking twerp teemo above him.

Of course, I suck at top lane, so I could be completely wrong with that list.

I have beaten Rumble with GP


wriggles nidalee beats everything. Even if it seems like you're about to lose your lane, just wait for them to b and take 2 towers +blue buff/red buff while they're buying
"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
December 08 2011 02:13 GMT
#2969
On December 08 2011 09:14 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Anybody watching Live on Three? What is this team they're talking about ^_^


Team MRN - 4 Koreans and Marn lol
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Haemonculus
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States6980 Posts
December 08 2011 02:33 GMT
#2970
I think bear has potential to be seriously overpowered. Surge + Ult is crazy damage and since all you near is warmogs you're very durable. Speed boost fling is crazy and your W hits for retarded damage in lane. Strong like bear.
I admire your commitment to being *very* oily
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 08 2011 02:46 GMT
#2971
On December 08 2011 10:53 Two_DoWn wrote:
I still have no fucking clue what actually beats rumble top. Neo tells me that he loses to yorick, which in my head makes the holy trinity of damn near unbeatable top lanes look something like

Rumble->trynd->yorick->rumble

With Udyr the untouchable above them, and that fucking twerp teemo above him.

Of course, I suck at top lane, so I could be completely wrong with that list.


Smash says Panth > all, top lane.
Time for me to practice a new champ.

ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
December 08 2011 02:48 GMT
#2972
On December 08 2011 10:59 Bladeorade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 10:53 Two_DoWn wrote:
I still have no fucking clue what actually beats rumble top. Neo tells me that he loses to yorick, which in my head makes the holy trinity of damn near unbeatable top lanes look something like

Rumble->trynd->yorick->rumble

With Udyr the untouchable above them, and that fucking twerp teemo above him.

Of course, I suck at top lane, so I could be completely wrong with that list.

I have beaten Rumble with GP


Before Revolver is GP's only chance.
Post Revolver and Q > W > E, Rumble wins. Just shield the parleys.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 08 2011 02:51 GMT
#2973
I still think Swain can > Pantheon. But I should try him, especially after being inspired by that Mantheon pick-up who would 1v4 the enemy by ulting into them just to save one of us being chased (and somehow getting a triple in exchange for his death when I turned back to Morg-W where he just landed and they jumped him, such a manly sacrifice). He still farmed a lot and got a positive score, but seeing that green circle yelling "You shall not pass" whenever they'd chase us made my game.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
December 08 2011 02:57 GMT
#2974
On December 08 2011 11:48 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 10:59 Bladeorade wrote:
On December 08 2011 10:53 Two_DoWn wrote:
I still have no fucking clue what actually beats rumble top. Neo tells me that he loses to yorick, which in my head makes the holy trinity of damn near unbeatable top lanes look something like

Rumble->trynd->yorick->rumble

With Udyr the untouchable above them, and that fucking twerp teemo above him.

Of course, I suck at top lane, so I could be completely wrong with that list.

I have beaten Rumble with GP


Before Revolver is GP's only chance.
Post Revolver and Q > W > E, Rumble wins. Just shield the parleys.

Yeah I was Q'ing a lot early and killed him at level 3 when i got parley 2.

After he got revolver we ganked him once as well with exhaust/my ult
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
December 08 2011 03:01 GMT
#2975
On December 08 2011 11:33 Haemonculus wrote:
I think bear has potential to be seriously overpowered. Surge + Ult is crazy damage and since all you near is warmogs you're very durable. Speed boost fling is crazy and your W hits for retarded damage in lane. Strong like bear.


Well since I think Moon just mentioned nerfs to bear and warmogs... his days are numbered... :/
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
December 08 2011 03:04 GMT
#2976
Counter Logic Gaming (Canada):

Roster: HotshotGG, TheOddOne, Chaox, Elementz, bigfatlp

A collaboration of the Canadian players from powerhouse North American teams Counter Logic Gaming and Team SoloMid, including MVP of MLG Providence, TheOddOne. This Canadian team features some of the cooler heads from both teams, and have shown a lot of promise in practice.

quite contradictory
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 08 2011 03:17 GMT
#2977
On December 08 2011 11:51 Alaric wrote:
I still think Swain can > Pantheon. But I should try him, especially after being inspired by that Mantheon pick-up who would 1v4 the enemy by ulting into them just to save one of us being chased (and somehow getting a triple in exchange for his death when I turned back to Morg-W where he just landed and they jumped him, such a manly sacrifice). He still farmed a lot and got a positive score, but seeing that green circle yelling "You shall not pass" whenever they'd chase us made my game.

Iunno...i've never lost to a swain as pantheon. Swain gets dicked on until he gets all his spells and even then if panth opens boots+3 he can dodge nevermove quite easily.
On December 08 2011 12:01 Takkara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 11:33 Haemonculus wrote:
I think bear has potential to be seriously overpowered. Surge + Ult is crazy damage and since all you near is warmogs you're very durable. Speed boost fling is crazy and your W hits for retarded damage in lane. Strong like bear.


Well since I think Moon just mentioned nerfs to bear and warmogs... his days are numbered... :/

you don't really need atmas on bear to do terrible terrible damage. i just go warmogs to buff his W then get wit's end for ulti synergy and then tank out. your W and R are crazy damage steroids by themselves. no need for atmas imo
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 08 2011 03:18 GMT
#2978
Tryn rapes rumble top. Rumble E isn't enough to harass him down, and if you're in flamethrower range he's going to rape the shit out of you.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 05:00:06
December 08 2011 04:47 GMT
#2979
On December 08 2011 12:04 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
Counter Logic Gaming (Canada):

Roster: HotshotGG, TheOddOne, Chaox, Elementz, bigfatlp

A collaboration of the Canadian players from powerhouse North American teams Counter Logic Gaming and Team SoloMid, including MVP of MLG Providence, TheOddOne. This Canadian team features some of the cooler heads from both teams, and have shown a lot of promise in practice.

quite contradictory

No SV, Reginald, Chauster or TRM... 1 hothead out of 5 people (who, I'll grant, have varying hotheadedness among them) - I don't really think that's contradictory.

Oddone is kinda... not really all that hotheaded in team games.
On December 08 2011 12:17 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 11:51 Alaric wrote:
I still think Swain can > Pantheon. But I should try him, especially after being inspired by that Mantheon pick-up who would 1v4 the enemy by ulting into them just to save one of us being chased (and somehow getting a triple in exchange for his death when I turned back to Morg-W where he just landed and they jumped him, such a manly sacrifice). He still farmed a lot and got a positive score, but seeing that green circle yelling "You shall not pass" whenever they'd chase us made my game.

Iunno...i've never lost to a swain as pantheon. Swain gets dicked on until he gets all his spells and even then if panth opens boots+3 he can dodge nevermove quite easily.
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2011 12:01 Takkara wrote:
On December 08 2011 11:33 Haemonculus wrote:
I think bear has potential to be seriously overpowered. Surge + Ult is crazy damage and since all you near is warmogs you're very durable. Speed boost fling is crazy and your W hits for retarded damage in lane. Strong like bear.


Well since I think Moon just mentioned nerfs to bear and warmogs... his days are numbered... :/

you don't really need atmas on bear to do terrible terrible damage. i just go warmogs to buff his W then get wit's end for ulti synergy and then tank out. your W and R are crazy damage steroids by themselves. no need for atmas imo

Swain's 1, 3, 5 aren't as strong as his 2, 4, 6. Pantheon abuses the shit out of levels 1 3 5. Also, he doesn't need to eat a laserbird to mess with swain, unlike most melee.

At some point on bear you MIGHT AS WELL get an atmas, but you definitely don't need to rush it right after warmogs. Warmogs on bear has enough damage without the atmas. I like the wits end idea (especially since bear is already a mixed damage champ. You could probably even benefit enough off of a void staff to bother buying it if a game goes into people having 150-200 MR.)
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 04:59:56
December 08 2011 04:51 GMT
#2980
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