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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 08 2011 07:44 GMT
#3001
On December 08 2011 14:27 Niton wrote:
Yeah, and Sona has a spammable speed boost, a very strong AoE stun, and the ability to chain snare a target during a chase. It's not that Taric doesn't have strong points - it's that they're not only fewer and far between, but they also don't do nearly enough to make up for his deficiencies.

In teamfighting, what does Taric do the best of every support? He's a good laner, but he's far from the only champion that's a good laner, and other supports (Soraka excluded) aren't exactly bad laners in their own right.

Taric suffers from the fact that the things he's good at aren't things that people want out of supports right now. High burst damage, early level gank CC--these are things that aren't useful to a sit-in-lane-and-babysit supports.

His kit isn't bad, it's just not suited to what people want from supports. Whether that's a temporary product of how people play the game right now, or something systemic to League's design, it's hard to say right now. Certainly if we went back to a state of roaming supports, he'd definitely do reasonably, because he's arguably a stronger gank threat than any support that's not Alistar.
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TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
December 08 2011 07:53 GMT
#3002
Mallet, Atma's, and CnD are good items in certain situations (though not in this particular game, nor on Graves). 336 cs is awfully low for having afk farmed for 35 minutes in a 52 minute game as well.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 08 2011 08:08 GMT
#3003
Why did they remove Warmog's from Dominion with no replacement item? It's a pretty core item for several champions, and there's no real substitute.

tl;dr I want to play Mundo in Dominion
I am the Town Medic.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 08 2011 08:18 GMT
#3004
Because, stacking warmogs in dominion, a game with very little minions that only lasts 15minutes is kinda dumb. There's always mallet I think which is slightly less hp but some added dmg(I prefer mogs aswell).
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 10:28:26
December 08 2011 10:27 GMT
#3005
Great job bashing on Corvette everyone, can we move on now?

So... How exactly can you manhandle Riven? I'm assuming Smash will say Panth, which I will have to try out, but I doubt it's as effective in my hands. She outscales him so hard later on in the game, it's not even funny, and I doubt I'm good enough to dominate her so hard it won't matter. I tried both Swain and Ryze and didn't do terribly, but not great with either. Nevermoore is just WAY too easy to dodge for Riven, so one reason of him dominating lots of champs top becomes obsolete. With Ryze, it's a bit better, but once she hits around 6 or 7, she outbursts me. Between E-Q-W, it's really hard to get her off my ass, especially if the lane is pushed just the slightest bit. Probably a problem with my play and not Ryze in general, because I feel in theory he should handle her sorta well. As Nasus, I get shat on really hard (should not have tried that I guess huehue), same with Trynd. That might be because I played the early levels really poorly and she just snowballed out of control.

My last resorts at this point would be Warwick, who I'm guessing can keep her at bay and farm safely, and Olaf, who should be able to trade. Any other ideas?
currently rooting for myself.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
December 08 2011 10:39 GMT
#3006
Yesterday I though I should playing solo lanes (jungle, top, mid), and try AD.

[image loading]

AD is so imba my GOD. Top fed. My support fed. Mid was just not dying but not doing anything else. Jungler did no damage. And still, we win oO
AD #1 hard carry position.
The legend of Darien lives on
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 10:43:30
December 08 2011 10:41 GMT
#3007
Jax should be good once you get a wriggles. WW would need some armour to be able to trade with riven or a source of mana because riven can just push him early and ww can't cs under turret. Or just deny him.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
December 08 2011 11:16 GMT
#3008
what can you do against an AD sion solo top who is 0/3 in laning phase, farms and at like 30 minutes you cant kill this bastard anymore :/
he lost top against GP, yet somehow he ended up raping everyone later in the game... you can't really force fights when his ult isn't up...
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
December 08 2011 11:17 GMT
#3009
On December 08 2011 20:16 DoXa wrote:
what can you do against an AD sion solo top who is 0/3 in laning phase, farms and at like 30 minutes you cant kill this bastard anymore :/
he lost top against GP, yet somehow he ended up raping everyone later in the game... you can't really force fights when his ult isn't up...

Focus fire+ignite, everyone dies to good focus.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 08 2011 11:53 GMT
#3010
Kite him if his teamcomp allows it, he's even worse than Udyr or Nasus for that.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wintergt
Profile Joined February 2010
Belgium1335 Posts
December 08 2011 12:09 GMT
#3011
Yeah Sion wtf. The AP one doing sick dmg is one thing, faced an AD one yesterday, his K/D was negative, but if his ult was up he was more unkillable than an ultied tryndamere. He'd fill his full health bar in 3 hits with ulti up, no joke. Nothing you can do about it. We still won cuz of teamfights and the fact his ulti has a cooldown (duh) but still that was just insane.
here i am
DoXa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Switzerland1448 Posts
December 08 2011 12:19 GMT
#3012
On December 08 2011 21:09 wintergt wrote:
Yeah Sion wtf. The AP one doing sick dmg is one thing, faced an AD one yesterday, his K/D was negative, but if his ult was up he was more unkillable than an ultied tryndamere. He'd fill his full health bar in 3 hits with ulti up, no joke. Nothing you can do about it. We still won cuz of teamfights and the fact his ulti has a cooldown (duh) but still that was just insane.


yeah thats what i mean, we didnt have a good kite teamcomp and when we tried to focus him we got tibbered and with his ult on he healed everyone for insane amounts :S, so more or less if he's over a certain point it means gg? like nasus and irelia?
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
December 08 2011 12:29 GMT
#3013
If you can't kite him, try splitpushing all 3 lanes.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 08 2011 12:32 GMT
#3014
Ignite the one you're focusing so he won't heal him.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Ziken
Profile Joined August 2010
Ghana1743 Posts
December 08 2011 12:54 GMT
#3015
Executioners calling works wonders against ad sion.
Every misfortune is a blessing in disguise.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 14:34:31
December 08 2011 14:30 GMT
#3016
I'd suggest scattering (I suppose "kiting" is a better way to phrase that) once his ult starts, if possible- don't let him sit there and whack you. Use Executioner's calling and don't forget to use the active. A lot of ignite helps. Shutting him down early also helps a lot.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
December 08 2011 14:52 GMT
#3017
On December 08 2011 17:18 JackDino wrote:
Because, stacking warmogs in dominion, a game with very little minions that only lasts 15minutes is kinda dumb. There's always mallet I think which is slightly less hp but some added dmg(I prefer mogs aswell).

Warmogs stack up nearly instantly in dominion, because they get 10 stacks per kill/assist. Assists happen constantly in dominion.

Someone building multiple warmogs was relatively retarded to deal with though. Especially with the Dominion MBR-type item not being as powerful on dominion as it is on SR (2.5% instead of 4%) there was often no real good way to take someone down with two full warmogs.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-08 14:54:54
December 08 2011 14:53 GMT
#3018
Support Leblanc is more fun than every other support by miles. Sona/Soraka good for when I don't want to exert any brainpower whatsoever but leblanc is still more fun.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
starfries
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada3508 Posts
December 08 2011 15:05 GMT
#3019
On December 08 2011 23:53 phyvo wrote:
Support Leblanc is more fun than every other support by miles. Sona/Soraka good for when I don't want to exert any brainpower whatsoever but leblanc is still more fun.

support Pantheon is the best. spear all day, use ultimate as a 10 second cd cv.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 08 2011 15:18 GMT
#3020
I know people can be bad, but come on. Last night, Triforce first Riven. It's like, it's not even a recommended item for her. She doesn't use half the stats on there.

But of course, she's Riven, so she still ended up with 10+ kills from just running around raping people.
It's your boy Guzma!
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