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NSANE.hydra
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States644 Posts
November 18 2011 15:11 GMT
#1021
it warms my heart to know about 1400 teemos die every minute.
"fuck mech...I could 4pool and as long as he's simply PLANNING on going mech, I'll lose"
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 18 2011 15:13 GMT
#1022
But...the Teemos =(

Interesting to note that HSGG has <half the games of Shushei, but 2/3 the damage done.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 18 2011 15:17 GMT
#1023
On November 19 2011 00:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
But...the Teemos =(

Interesting to note that HSGG has

dem Takedowns...

Then again, Gragas barrels are imba.
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Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
November 18 2011 15:20 GMT
#1024
On November 18 2011 23:47 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 20:11 JackDino wrote:
Defense is way better than utility, utility has stupid things like a mana prerequisite for the mp5, semi worthless thing like 40experience/40g, 40g is nothing in a 30+min game. Perseverance is now way down the tree but it's still garbage, the only good things from utility are the summoner cd reduction and the buff duration is now 1 point. The gp10 is also nice.

Don't underestimate the +mana mastery. It's pretty amazing for champions with small manapools and expensive spells (aka ranged ADs).


lol ashe with lowest base manapool at level 18. An arrow, some volleys and you're out of mana.
Stuck.
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
November 18 2011 15:23 GMT
#1025
clearly teemo needs a buff
shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
November 18 2011 15:26 GMT
#1026
On November 19 2011 00:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Interesting to note that HSGG has <half the games of Shushei, but 2/3 the damage done.


Its pretty obvious that they play different champions. HS usually plays more tanky chars while Shushei plays with chars that do more damage, means easier to kill with. So HS does a lot of damage (and soaks up it), while his team gets the kills. Its like if you compare the healing vs CC-s on a Janna and a Soraka...
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spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 18 2011 15:27 GMT
#1027
On November 19 2011 00:13 jcarlsoniv wrote:
But...the Teemos =(

Interesting to note that HSGG has <half the games of Shushei, but 2/3 the damage done.

Damage done comes mostly from damage to minions/monsters. That just shows how HSGG farms: Burst down whole waves with spells. He never hesitates to spam his skills to shove a lane and roam/shop.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 18 2011 15:33 GMT
#1028
On November 19 2011 00:10 Happy Frog wrote:
5HIT gets the Morello stamp of approval...10 months later


Thanks, every article by 5hit is a pleasure to read, even if just for entertainment value.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 18 2011 15:34 GMT
#1029
Didn't say I was surprised about it. Just interesting to note ^.^
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STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
November 18 2011 15:40 GMT
#1030
More teemos die every minute then my current elo rating...must outrank teemo's deathrate...
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
November 18 2011 15:47 GMT
#1031
On November 19 2011 00:23 emucxg wrote:
clearly teemo needs a buff


His mushrooms need to be able to plant their own mushrooms, like creep tumors.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 18 2011 15:49 GMT
#1032
On November 19 2011 00:47 pschiu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 00:23 emucxg wrote:
clearly teemo needs a buff


His mushrooms need to be able to plant their own mushrooms, like creep tumors.


O_O Would really tell you who the Zerg players are.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 18 2011 16:02 GMT
#1033
Let's say your jungling with Olaf/Warwick and you can't rely on a leash for Blue, what's the optimal path? I normally start Vamp on Olaf and Sword on WW.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Promises
Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
November 18 2011 16:11 GMT
#1034
Been toying around a bit with Fizz Jungle (which is pretty sweet) but I'm very much unsure of the build on him. Anyone with experience/suggestions?
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 18 2011 16:16 GMT
#1035
This may be helpful: http://www.own3d.tv/video/283750/Saintvicious_fizz_jungle_SO_OP
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 18 2011 16:26 GMT
#1036
Teemo does not need a buff. If he does get buffed he needs a rework. No one in the game is more annoying to play against (maybe Shaco) because his map control is incredible if he gets rolling.
Cheese is good for you!
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
November 18 2011 16:29 GMT
#1037
On November 19 2011 01:02 mordek wrote:
Let's say your jungling with Olaf/Warwick and you can't rely on a leash for Blue, what's the optimal path? I normally start Vamp on Olaf and Sword on WW.

It's masteries 2.0. You don't have to alter your path, just do blue without a leash and proceed to clear your whole jungle, not giving a single fuck.
currently rooting for myself.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 18 2011 16:52 GMT
#1038
On November 18 2011 23:47 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 20:11 JackDino wrote:
Defense is way better than utility, utility has stupid things like a mana prerequisite for the mp5, semi worthless thing like 40experience/40g, 40g is nothing in a 30+min game. Perseverance is now way down the tree but it's still garbage, the only good things from utility are the summoner cd reduction and the buff duration is now 1 point. The gp10 is also nice.

Don't underestimate the +mana mastery. It's pretty amazing for champions with small manapools and expensive spells (aka ranged ADs).

It's terrible compared to the old one tho, esp on someone like ryze.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
November 18 2011 16:54 GMT
#1039
On November 19 2011 01:29 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2011 01:02 mordek wrote:
Let's say your jungling with Olaf/Warwick and you can't rely on a leash for Blue, what's the optimal path? I normally start Vamp on Olaf and Sword on WW.

It's masteries 2.0. You don't have to alter your path, just do blue without a leash and proceed to clear your whole jungle, not giving a single fuck.

I wasn't aware Olaf could do that, I'll have to try it.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
JewJewBees
Profile Joined April 2010
United States87 Posts
November 18 2011 16:57 GMT
#1040
On November 19 2011 01:52 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2011 23:47 spinesheath wrote:
On November 18 2011 20:11 JackDino wrote:
Defense is way better than utility, utility has stupid things like a mana prerequisite for the mp5, semi worthless thing like 40experience/40g, 40g is nothing in a 30+min game. Perseverance is now way down the tree but it's still garbage, the only good things from utility are the summoner cd reduction and the buff duration is now 1 point. The gp10 is also nice.

Don't underestimate the +mana mastery. It's pretty amazing for champions with small manapools and expensive spells (aka ranged ADs).

It's terrible compared to the old one tho, esp on someone like ryze.


i'm not positive but i vaguely recall that the old mastery was based off base mana, not current mana.
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