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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
November 28 2011 17:13 GMT
#3001
Anybody know if the new jungle is up on public beta server yet?

If you have played on it how does it impact the jungler minion role?
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17290 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 17:19:50
November 28 2011 17:19 GMT
#3002
I doubt it since Stonewall was still under partial NDA just last week. Who knows with Riot, though...
twitch.tv/cratonz
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 17:29:58
November 28 2011 17:29 GMT
#3003
So apparently,rammus can't get stunned by cassis ult when he has his W up lol
Cackle™
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
November 28 2011 17:33 GMT
#3004
On November 29 2011 02:29 TheKefka wrote:
So apparently,rammus can't get stunned by cassis ult when he has his W up lol


Eyes to the ground, all is cool.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
November 28 2011 17:34 GMT
#3005
Is the same true for Lee Sin? That would be an interesting feature.
I am the Town Medic.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
November 28 2011 17:35 GMT
#3006
Why are you trying to ult a Rammus with his w up in the first place?
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 28 2011 17:38 GMT
#3007
On November 29 2011 01:36 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 01:12 Southlight wrote:
Vayne guzzles mana like crazy, lol. You have to keep tumbling toward the enemy if they harass you, and being able to spam Condemn + tumble allows her to win lanes.

The only one that doesn't really benefit from mana is Cait.
Edit: Ashe doesn't either, in retrospect.

Also Soraka's mana restore is kinda weak especially if you run WEWQW anyways.

Ashe can make good use of some extra mana, especially at lvl 6-10 or so.

Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 01:16 Divine-Sneaker wrote:
On the discussion of ping. Noone can ever come to me and tell me there's no noticable difference between the 40 ping I can get normally and a 170-200 ping if the servers are fucked up. Try playing ezreal properly with ping. It's utterly impossible to do well unless you're playing retards.

Obviously there is a huge difference if you're used to 40 and suddenly have to play with 200.
But if you're used to 200, it's still playable in most situations. TF and Alistar are the champs that can tolerate high ping the least, from my experience.


By the way if you want to set up some play with Heath and need me pm me on TL or something, I'm gonna take a break from LoL while I focus on my schoolwork until the end of semester (~December 13th).
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 17:39:17
November 28 2011 17:38 GMT
#3008
On November 29 2011 02:35 Sabin010 wrote:
Why are you trying to ult a Rammus with his w up in the first place?

To get away maybe?Or in a teamfight not specifically him but everyone.Dumb question.
Anyways If Leesin isn't immune to that shit as well I'm going to be disappointed.Anyone that plays leesin knows?:D
Cackle™
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
November 28 2011 17:52 GMT
#3009
On November 29 2011 02:35 Sabin010 wrote:
Why are you trying to ult a Rammus with his w up in the first place?

There are at least a million different scenarios where you'd want to ult a Rammus with W up. At least.
currently rooting for myself.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
November 28 2011 17:59 GMT
#3010
Do all the commando skins with sunglasses make you immune to that ult too?
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
November 28 2011 18:06 GMT
#3011
On November 29 2011 02:13 Sabin010 wrote:
Anybody know if the new jungle is up on public beta server yet?

If you have played on it how does it impact the jungler minion role?


PBE isn't really for balance testing, just for features like Spectating, Ranked Teams etc. That's why the mastery remake went live without ever hitting the PBE, as will the jungle remake.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
November 28 2011 18:06 GMT
#3012
On November 29 2011 02:35 Sabin010 wrote:
Why are you trying to ult a Rammus with his w up in the first place?


Cuz Rammus W blocks spells amirite?


But I didn't have any issues ulting Rammus with Cass yesterday. Did you try multiple times, or was it just a one time bug thing?
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 28 2011 18:18 GMT
#3013
Lee Sin gets stunned. Won us a game where my lag and the bad Nasus laning with me fed a LS quite badly, then when teamfights rolled we made him explode during the stun everytime.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
November 28 2011 18:41 GMT
#3014
I know the Jungle discussion was a few pages back, but I wanted to bring this up. Last night I created a new summoner and tried out the Jungle with Rammus. Maybe I forgot this, but it is literally impossible to Jungle a lvl 1 summoner. I started cloth+5 at blue taking Smite and HEAL, and DBC first. I started whacking the big blue golem. I would have died before I killed him if I didn't have the Heal summoner because the big blue golem greatly out DPS the healing from pots.

I haven't tried any other junglers out at lvl 1 but I imagine the results would be the same.

I think that anything that makes the jungle more accessible to lower level summoners will help the game and I'm looking forward to trying different opening items with the Moose. Vamp Scepter perhaps?
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 18:49:27
November 28 2011 18:46 GMT
#3015
On November 29 2011 03:41 Terranasaur wrote:
I know the Jungle discussion was a few pages back, but I wanted to bring this up. Last night I created a new summoner and tried out the Jungle with Rammus. Maybe I forgot this, but it is literally impossible to Jungle a lvl 1 summoner. I started cloth+5 at blue taking Smite and HEAL, and DBC first. I started whacking the big blue golem. I would have died before I killed him if I didn't have the Heal summoner because the big blue golem greatly out DPS the healing from pots.

I haven't tried any other junglers out at lvl 1 but I imagine the results would be the same.

I think that anything that makes the jungle more accessible to lower level summoners will help the game and I'm looking forward to trying different opening items with the Moose. Vamp Scepter perhaps?

Why would you ever NOT start cloth 5 pot with Rammus? It makes his first clear a LOT faster and safer than any other possible item combination, builds in something actually useful (depending on how you play him, Wriggle's or Randuin's) and makes countering early on possible. It's a suboptimal start for many junglers imo, but for Rammus, it's pretty legit.
currently rooting for myself.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-28 18:50:40
November 28 2011 18:47 GMT
#3016
On November 29 2011 03:06 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 02:35 Sabin010 wrote:
Why are you trying to ult a Rammus with his w up in the first place?


Cuz Rammus W blocks spells amirite?


But I didn't have any issues ulting Rammus with Cass yesterday. Did you try multiple times, or was it just a one time bug thing?

No I saw it on the oddones stream,he got ultied 2 times right in the face shell with W up and didn't get stunned,weird.
Cackle™
Terranasaur
Profile Joined May 2011
United States2085 Posts
November 28 2011 18:51 GMT
#3017
On November 29 2011 03:46 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 03:41 Terranasaur wrote:
I know the Jungle discussion was a few pages back, but I wanted to bring this up. Last night I created a new summoner and tried out the Jungle with Rammus. Maybe I forgot this, but it is literally impossible to Jungle a lvl 1 summoner. I started cloth+5 at blue taking Smite and HEAL, and DBC first. I started whacking the big blue golem. I would have died before I killed him if I didn't have the Heal summoner because the big blue golem greatly out DPS the healing from pots.

I haven't tried any other junglers out at lvl 1 but I imagine the results would be the same.

I think that anything that makes the jungle more accessible to lower level summoners will help the game and I'm looking forward to trying different opening items with the Moose. Vamp Scepter perhaps?

Why would you ever NOT start cloth 5 pot with Rammus? It makes his first clear a LOT faster and safer than any other possible item combination, builds in something actually useful (depending on how you play him, Wriggle's or Randuin's) and makes countering early on possible.



Right now Cloth+5 is the best way to start. But I'm saying after the jungle changes and the pots nerf I'm going to try something else. I hate throwing away gold on health potions. If I can keep my health up by the buffs from clearing camps why wouldn't I look into other openings? Without those 5 pots I am 175 gold closer to my Lantern and thats a huge amount in the early Jungle.
Decisions Determine Destiny - Terranasaur#1719 D3 #557 SC2 3DS FC: 2423-3623-8068
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
November 28 2011 18:54 GMT
#3018
On November 29 2011 03:51 Terranasaur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2011 03:46 Shiv. wrote:
On November 29 2011 03:41 Terranasaur wrote:
I know the Jungle discussion was a few pages back, but I wanted to bring this up. Last night I created a new summoner and tried out the Jungle with Rammus. Maybe I forgot this, but it is literally impossible to Jungle a lvl 1 summoner. I started cloth+5 at blue taking Smite and HEAL, and DBC first. I started whacking the big blue golem. I would have died before I killed him if I didn't have the Heal summoner because the big blue golem greatly out DPS the healing from pots.

I haven't tried any other junglers out at lvl 1 but I imagine the results would be the same.

I think that anything that makes the jungle more accessible to lower level summoners will help the game and I'm looking forward to trying different opening items with the Moose. Vamp Scepter perhaps?

Why would you ever NOT start cloth 5 pot with Rammus? It makes his first clear a LOT faster and safer than any other possible item combination, builds in something actually useful (depending on how you play him, Wriggle's or Randuin's) and makes countering early on possible.



Right now Cloth+5 is the best way to start. But I'm saying after the jungle changes and the pots nerf I'm going to try something else. I hate throwing away gold on health potions. If I can keep my health up by the buffs from clearing camps why wouldn't I look into other openings? Without those 5 pots I am 175 gold closer to my Lantern and thats a huge amount in the early Jungle.

Alright, I misinterpreted your post.
Anything about the new jungle is just sheer interpretation so far, though. We will see what the changes bring. Personally, I'm hoping I can start Regrowth 1 pot, but we'll see how it pans out.
currently rooting for myself.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 28 2011 18:57 GMT
#3019
I'm probably going to open boots on as many champs as I can. IMO time sounds like it is going to be the main resource in the new jungle, not health. What better way to improve time than to reduce the downtime between camps and ganks?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 28 2011 19:00 GMT
#3020
Manaregen for champs like Maokai if your mid wants to hug bluf buff from the second one onward.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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