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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
November 07 2011 03:46 GMT
#1961
On November 07 2011 12:34 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 12:30 tobi9999 wrote:
On November 07 2011 12:07 Craton wrote:
Half the issue I have with malz right now is people blocking your ult purely by the dumb luck of using a CC at the same time you do. The other half is how easy it is for you to be trying to ult at max range and click away, only to have that 80ms or so of latency cause you to insta-cancel the ult that finally reached at that last possible instant.


all you have to do is have ward coverage, sit in a brush, pool and ult when someone gets near said brush.


a.k.a. How to play any champion with bullshit CC


sup fiddle
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 07 2011 03:50 GMT
#1962
On November 07 2011 12:41 unichan wrote:
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On November 07 2011 12:29 dnastyx wrote:
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
November 07 2011 03:54 GMT
#1963
On November 07 2011 12:46 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 12:34 Requizen wrote:
On November 07 2011 12:30 tobi9999 wrote:
On November 07 2011 12:07 Craton wrote:
Half the issue I have with malz right now is people blocking your ult purely by the dumb luck of using a CC at the same time you do. The other half is how easy it is for you to be trying to ult at max range and click away, only to have that 80ms or so of latency cause you to insta-cancel the ult that finally reached at that last possible instant.


all you have to do is have ward coverage, sit in a brush, pool and ult when someone gets near said brush.


a.k.a. How to play any champion with bullshit CC


sup fiddle

What, there's nothing wrong with Fiddl-


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tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
November 07 2011 03:57 GMT
#1964
On November 07 2011 12:41 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 12:30 tobi9999 wrote:
On November 07 2011 12:07 Craton wrote:
Half the issue I have with malz right now is people blocking your ult purely by the dumb luck of using a CC at the same time you do. The other half is how easy it is for you to be trying to ult at max range and click away, only to have that 80ms or so of latency cause you to insta-cancel the ult that finally reached at that last possible instant.


all you have to do is have ward coverage, sit in a brush, pool and ult when someone gets near said brush.


'cause competent players are going to blindly chase the malz into a bush (or not notice malz waltzing out of lane to wait in a bush) in a situation where they can't instantly block his ult.

Not to mention every team fight ever.


Hey man, top NA teams fell to it numerous times at Dreamhack.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 07 2011 04:04 GMT
#1965
So I was catching up on my favorite team this evening and I noticed that during the Rampage showmatch Graves was not banned. I was under the impression that he was 100% firstpick/ban material so I'm curious to why this happened if anybody cares to enlighten me on this matter. I didn't get a chance to watch any of the MLG Qualifiers as I was working so I'm not sure if he was played there either. From what I read in GD one team tried to leave him open to have a shot at winning and it backfired on them so...
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 04:07:15
November 07 2011 04:05 GMT
#1966
Dunno. I didnt watch the series so I dont know if he was a global ban for Rampage, or if it was just that each team thought there were better bans.
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-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 04:18:14
November 07 2011 04:15 GMT
#1967
On November 07 2011 13:04 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
So I was catching up on my favorite team this evening and I noticed that during the Rampage showmatch Graves was not banned. I was under the impression that he was 100% firstpick/ban material so I'm curious to why this happened if anybody cares to enlighten me on this matter. I didn't get a chance to watch any of the MLG Qualifiers as I was working so I'm not sure if he was played there either. From what I read in GD one team tried to leave him open to have a shot at winning and it backfired on them so...

Well hum it was awkward. 2nd game, fnatic got graves and destroyed kog's qtpie. 3 game, Same bot lane but qtpie won after 6 and zoned graves...
In competitve play an unfarmed ad is useless, even if he's op.

Edit: @Two_Down : bans were mostly team-oriented.
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 07 2011 04:30 GMT
#1968
On November 07 2011 13:15 -Zoda- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 13:04 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
So I was catching up on my favorite team this evening and I noticed that during the Rampage showmatch Graves was not banned. I was under the impression that he was 100% firstpick/ban material so I'm curious to why this happened if anybody cares to enlighten me on this matter. I didn't get a chance to watch any of the MLG Qualifiers as I was working so I'm not sure if he was played there either. From what I read in GD one team tried to leave him open to have a shot at winning and it backfired on them so...

Well hum it was awkward. 2nd game, fnatic got graves and destroyed kog's qtpie. 3 game, Same bot lane but qtpie won after 6 and zoned graves...
In competitve play an unfarmed ad is useless, even if he's op.

Edit: @Two_Down : bans were mostly team-oriented.


Well the third game Morgana roamed down to bottom and picked up a kill even though it was warded so I'm not entirely sure how it happened in the first place. I feel like all three games kinda snowballed out of control early on so I'm not sure they are the greatest examples. There was a team with a clear advantage by the 10 minute mark all three times I think, and they gave no chance for the other team to come back. In the third game I believe Graves went for a Wriggles as well...That certainly put him behind seeing as he got zoned even though he made wriggles.

Another thing you might want to take into account is that Kog'Maw rushed a madreds in the second game while he went with an ad build in the third game. I've believed that madred's is an awful opening (and item in general for kog'maw) for a long time and this just furthers that hatred ^_^
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
November 07 2011 04:45 GMT
#1969
On November 07 2011 12:05 Cixah wrote:
Renekton has the advantage until Nasus comes back with Sheen + Chain Mail. After that point its very hard for renekton to trade properly without already having some decent items.


The last time I played vs a Nasus who insisted on getting every single Q after he did that I started pinkwarding, cleared wave and ganked mid. Worked out fine. =S
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
November 07 2011 04:46 GMT
#1970
Dyrus best streamed solo que game ever.

Gingerbrown and burbs feeding like bosses the whole game but Dyrus/Westrice carry it close. Inhibs down all over the place, GB and burbs are killed and westrice falls. Dyrus/Soraka b back to defend nexus turrets 2v5, he dies easily, but the team is kind of low from westrice and tank the turrets, Soraka drops starcall to ace them and win.
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Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
November 07 2011 04:47 GMT
#1971
On November 07 2011 13:46 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Dyrus best streamed solo que game ever.

Gingerbrown and burbs feeding like bosses the whole game but Dyrus/Westrice carry it close. Inhibs down all over the place, GB and burbs are killed and westrice falls. Dyrus/Soraka b back to defend nexus turrets 2v5, he dies easily, but the team is kind of low from westrice and tank the turrets, Soraka drops starcall to ace them and win.

lol you beat me to it, that was the most epic thing i've ever seen
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
November 07 2011 04:48 GMT
#1972
Dyrus spent a good 7 minutes laughing after the game
Cixah
Profile Joined July 2010
United States11285 Posts
November 07 2011 04:49 GMT
#1973
On November 07 2011 13:45 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 12:05 Cixah wrote:
Renekton has the advantage until Nasus comes back with Sheen + Chain Mail. After that point its very hard for renekton to trade properly without already having some decent items.


The last time I played vs a Nasus who insisted on getting every single Q after he did that I started pinkwarding, cleared wave and ganked mid. Worked out fine. =S


Most of the ones I see after that point just try and kill you rather than farm the Q. I think that if you leave the lane alone as renekton you end up giving up too much to the nasus even if you get 1 or 2 good ganks on the mid.

Renekton can most def just clear the wave and walk around which would prolly be a better use of his time. I just feel like you always need to be pressuring nasus or he gets too big.
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HeroHenry
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1723 Posts
November 07 2011 04:50 GMT
#1974
On November 07 2011 13:46 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Dyrus best streamed solo que game ever.

Gingerbrown and burbs feeding like bosses the whole game but Dyrus/Westrice carry it close. Inhibs down all over the place, GB and burbs are killed and westrice falls. Dyrus/Soraka b back to defend nexus turrets 2v5, he dies easily, but the team is kind of low from westrice and tank the turrets, Soraka drops starcall to ace them and win.

Do you know if he recorded that on own3d? I wanted to see how it end again, went by so fast x_x
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
November 07 2011 04:51 GMT
#1975
On November 07 2011 13:50 HeroHenry wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 13:46 PartyBiscuit wrote:
Dyrus best streamed solo que game ever.

Gingerbrown and burbs feeding like bosses the whole game but Dyrus/Westrice carry it close. Inhibs down all over the place, GB and burbs are killed and westrice falls. Dyrus/Soraka b back to defend nexus turrets 2v5, he dies easily, but the team is kind of low from westrice and tank the turrets, Soraka drops starcall to ace them and win.

Do you know if he recorded that on own3d? I wanted to see how it end again, went by so fast x_x


He thinks he did, we'll find out soon enough. I tabbed out because I assumed the game was over then he starts laughing. I tab back in..

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Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
November 07 2011 04:55 GMT
#1976
That was singlehandedly one of the funniest games I have ever seen in my life. LOL Dyrus.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 07 2011 05:32 GMT
#1977
I even heard about this game on Reddit, what have I missed T_T
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r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
November 07 2011 05:38 GMT
#1978
On November 07 2011 13:49 Cixah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 13:45 r.Evo wrote:
On November 07 2011 12:05 Cixah wrote:
Renekton has the advantage until Nasus comes back with Sheen + Chain Mail. After that point its very hard for renekton to trade properly without already having some decent items.


The last time I played vs a Nasus who insisted on getting every single Q after he did that I started pinkwarding, cleared wave and ganked mid. Worked out fine. =S


Most of the ones I see after that point just try and kill you rather than farm the Q. I think that if you leave the lane alone as renekton you end up giving up too much to the nasus even if you get 1 or 2 good ganks on the mid.

Renekton can most def just clear the wave and walk around which would prolly be a better use of his time. I just feel like you always need to be pressuring nasus or he gets too big.


Haha. I had the same issue, then realized I'm not gonna pressure him out of lane anymore after a certain point.


Since I started "pressuring" him by forcing fights 5n4 I'm doing way better vs him. It's the same concept, but you actually accomplish something. =D
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 07 2011 05:46 GMT
#1979
On November 07 2011 14:32 HazMat wrote:
I even heard about this game on Reddit, what have I missed T_T

http://www.own3d.tv/SoloMid#/watch/268309

Recording is up already!
Hoban
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1600 Posts
November 07 2011 06:18 GMT
#1980
So if I am Cho'Gath laning against Sion, can I use my silence to delay his ability to activate his shield? Ex. I silence him 3.5 seconds after he casts his shield, can he still activate it before the silence has warn off?
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