EPT[Patch 1.0.0.128: Shyvana] General Discussion - Page 100
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Want to rage about your latest loss? Use the QQ thread. If you whine in GD, you'll get warned. - Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th | ||
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Cixah
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R04R
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daemir
Finland8662 Posts
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Hoban
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UniversalSnip
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Craton
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Shiv.
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On November 07 2011 15:30 daemir wrote: Dyrus has been mega entertaining for the last erm 8? hours relevant. | ||
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Hoban
United States1600 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
The ONLY thing I blame Dignitas for is Voyboys release statement congratulating CDE and saying that they were the rightful team to go to WCG and that he was confident that WCG would change their mind and reinstate CDE as the champions... followed up by playing the game and then taking the spot. If you were just blowing smoke up everyone's ass, don't waste our time or insult our intelligence. Exactly this, they play by what they thought were the actual rules, they accepted their loss, they congratulated CDE and after all that they asked the admins about the rules and played another set, when the rules clearly stated otherwise. Pretty sure that if dignitas had won the first game they would've taken it as the win and WCG admins would''ve never been contacted about it. You can say and defend dignitas all you want but if you can''t see that what they did with the additional set was wrong then I don't know what''s wrong with you. On November 07 2011 15:50 Craton wrote: 'cause Riven is pretty OP and hasn't caught on. Just pick someone like pantheon and destroy her in lane ezpz. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On November 07 2011 17:42 NeoIllusions wrote: I feel that Panth is the AD version of Kassadin in a way. Over all, he's a fairly subpar pick but he can counter certain champions in lane so hard and just snowball to victory. He''s also one of the easiest ganks ingame, most annoying thing about playing pant. On November 07 2011 17:43 gtrsrs wrote: i don't even think pantheon will beat a cloth + 5 pots riven tbh He can simply farm in that case and kill her when he has a bruta. Riven can''t really trade with pant because of his passive. | ||
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Hoban
United States1600 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 07 2011 17:43 JackDino wrote: He can simply farm in that case and kill her when he has a bruta. Riven can''t really trade with pant because of his passive. He'll get Bruta around when she gets Wriggle's. He can't combo her from full, she'll have decent sustain with Wriggle's + E to block spears, and she outscales him HARD lategame, so trading farm is much better for her. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On November 07 2011 17:43 JackDino wrote: He''s also one of the easiest ganks ingame, most annoying thing about playing pant. He can simply farm in that case and kill her when he has a bruta. Riven can''t really trade with pant because of his passive. you mean panth can't trade with riven because she has no mana? cloth + 5 pots forces pantheon to burn through 1000 additional HP before actually doing significant damage, PLUS the armor makes that 1000 HP worth more. meanwhile riven can pop her (free) shield once every couple of spears to even further reduce your damage (and further up the mana cost of doing significant damage to her). AND riven is one of the few champs i wouldn't like to walk up and try to autoattack like i do against most top matchups because she can either just bounce away or bounce into you and trade autos thanks to her passive not to mention that riven can either go wriggles for the sustain, or just go cloth -> tabi -> atma's to completely negate your damage while giving her significant damage in return it's just a really bad matchup for panth imo. an average panth can beat an average riven, but i don't think a good panth stands a chance against a good riven you know? | ||
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Navi
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and by destroy i mean utterly crush his soul | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On November 07 2011 18:04 gtrsrs wrote: you mean panth can't trade with riven because she has no mana? cloth + 5 pots forces pantheon to burn through 1000 additional HP before actually doing significant damage, PLUS the armor makes that 1000 HP worth more. meanwhile riven can pop her (free) shield once every couple of spears to even further reduce your damage (and further up the mana cost of doing significant damage to her). AND riven is one of the few champs i wouldn't like to walk up and try to autoattack like i do against most top matchups because she can either just bounce away or bounce into you and trade autos thanks to her passive not to mention that riven can either go wriggles for the sustain, or just go cloth -> tabi -> atma's to completely negate your damage while giving her significant damage in return it's just a really bad matchup for panth imo. an average panth can beat an average riven, but i don't think a good panth stands a chance against a good riven you know? You''ll still come out ahead when trading because of pant passive>riven passive. Wriggles for sustain doesn''t matter that much when you stab her everytime she cses and nothing is stopping you from going tabi. On November 07 2011 17:54 TheYango wrote: He'll get Bruta around when she gets Wriggle's. He can't combo her from full, she'll have decent sustain with Wriggle's + E to block spears, and she outscales him HARD lategame, so trading farm is much better for her. His E has a 3.6AD ratio and his Q a 1.6 ratio, I don''t see her outscaling him hard. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
TL;DR I'm looking for a couple people to start doing some arranged 5s with, but was unsure where in the subforum to post. If anyone's interested check out the blog or PM me. Now to contribute: on the subject of AD casters top lane, is it possible for a Wukong to beat Nasus top lane? Scrimming with a friend I would always get real greedy and he'd FB me as he hit 6 (me playing Nasus, him on Wukong), but then I'd farm up and push him out as only Nasus can do. I know Panth shuts him down real hard and Riven does an ok job as well, but I feel like Wukong's inability to harass without being up in Nasus's face is what screws him. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On November 07 2011 18:32 JackDino wrote: You''ll still come out ahead when trading because of pant passive>riven passive. Wriggles for sustain doesn''t matter that much when you stab her everytime she cses and nothing is stopping you from going tabi. His E has a 3.6AD ratio and his Q a 1.6 ratio, I don''t see her outscaling him hard. She outscales him because Panth has to build some tanky stats or risk being blown up whereas Riven gets naturally tanky by building pure AD. I honestly don't see Panth winning the lane especially if the Riven starts Cloth+5 and heck she can even max E over W if it's really an issue. | ||
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On November 07 2011 18:36 Ryuu314 wrote: She outscales him because Panth has to build some tanky stats or risk being blown up whereas Riven gets naturally tanky by building pure AD. I honestly don't see Panth winning the lane especially if the Riven starts Cloth+5 and heck she can even max E over W if it's really an issue. You don''t need to win the lane you just need to get your farm then you jump on 2 squishies like a proper assassin and kill them. | ||
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