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Want to rage about your latest loss?
Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
November 06 2011 23:53 GMT
#1921
On November 07 2011 08:45 RogerX wrote:
Why not just get QSS or maybe clense?

Because Yi still dies instantly with either if the team realizes to focus him. If he gets cleanse it means he forgoes having exhaust/ghost and if he rushes QSS his damage will be low. In the later game when 5v5s are common, Yi can't just dive headfirst and not expect to die instantly, so he has to wait in the wings or try to split-push. These days there are a lot of champs that can deal with him.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 06 2011 23:54 GMT
#1922
On November 07 2011 06:51 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 06:37 Alzadar wrote:
On November 07 2011 05:03 UniversalSnip wrote:
It's because nobody likes to play galio.


Really? He's so fun. Run mp5 yellows and Q them all day. I've also seen a fair amount of Galio middle against their AP, he just ruins them by stacking MR.


Fun is all relative. Most people don't enjoy playing a more support role and would rather be that guy who's 10/0 doing all the killing.


They just never tp'd -> ult right into an enemy gank \o/

Yi makes me think of a buddy of mine entertaining himself with Trynda/Yi/Jax "tiebreakers", playing all three then comparing the results, and joking about their low elo stompers status making them "similar".
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 06 2011 23:57 GMT
#1923
On November 07 2011 08:53 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 08:45 RogerX wrote:
Why not just get QSS or maybe clense?

Because Yi still dies instantly with either if the team realizes to focus him. If he gets cleanse it means he forgoes having exhaust/ghost and if he rushes QSS his damage will be low. In the later game when 5v5s are common, Yi can't just dive headfirst and not expect to die instantly, so he has to wait in the wings or try to split-push. These days there are a lot of champs that can deal with him.

There's also the fact that Nocturne can play the same sort of vulture/split-push style while also having other options (e.g. getting Atmog's and playing as a tanky initiator using ulti to force fights). As a pick, Nocturne is more flexible, while not being weaker at what Yi is good at.
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SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
November 07 2011 00:58 GMT
#1924
On November 07 2011 07:49 infinitestory wrote:
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On November 07 2011 07:07 LoCicero wrote:
I wasn't going to say anything as I believe people are entitled to their own opinions, but seeing this scumbag jatt stuff on this forum bothers me. I don't want any "Scumbag Jatt" stuff on a forum that I respect. Any reasonable person could see that Scarra DID actually have video card troubles for the second disconnect (he completely stopped moving during the teamfight). Just because Jatt didn't want his team to stream doesn't mean he's an asshole, it just means he's very competitive (which he is, he gets really animated and excited while playing). What happened is what happened, and ultimately it wasn't Dignitas' fault for what occurred. WCG should have realized what was going on and made some decisions before it came down to AFTER the finals. As someone who has actually played with Dignitas and met them in real life they are all great guys (Scarra is arguably the nicest person I've ever met). They have received enough shit from all of the streamers and LoL general forums, I think they should at least get our respect here (Voyboy was getting death threats... Are you fucking kidding me?).

It seems to span all gaming communities that the gut reaction to drama is pitchforks. Not a whole lot we can do about the painful reddit threads, but I agree that we should at least be beyond that here. Quoting because this post needs to be read.

+1
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
November 07 2011 01:09 GMT
#1925
On November 07 2011 08:41 HazMat wrote:
...........And the Dignitas is awesome and the people that hate on them are scumbags bandwagon begins.

Qft
Bandwagons and backlashwagons - the silent killer
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
November 07 2011 01:11 GMT
#1926
On November 07 2011 08:41 HazMat wrote:
...........And the Dignitas is awesome and the people that hate on them are scumbags bandwagon begins.

I've gotten into quite enough arguments trying to defend Dignitas, now I and others are part of a bandwagon for not jumping on them with pitchforks like the entire rest of the net?

Dignitas is still awesome, and I never stopped believing it.

Seriously, I kinda expected the more well-respected members of our TL-LoL community to have more respect than this.
On November 07 2011 08:40 Liquid`Tyler wrote:
the answer is always to blame everything on wcg

I'm glad I'm not the only one to believe in WCG's incompetence over possible maliciousness on part of Dignitas.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
November 07 2011 01:19 GMT
#1927
As if WCG's incompetence absolves Dignitas of twice accepting blatant rule reversals. You want to be respected, then you man up and refuse to accept WCG's backroom bullshit. Trying to wash your hands of it by saying "it was them not me" doesn't somehow make you less guilty.
twitch.tv/cratonz
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 07 2011 01:19 GMT
#1928
On November 07 2011 08:41 HazMat wrote:
...........And the Dignitas is awesome and the people that hate on them are scumbags bandwagon begins.

thats not the point lol, the point is that if anyone wants to argue against Dignitas, he/she should at least be thoroughly informed and use actual logic, instead of parroting hearsay from somewhere in the depths of reddit. There are logical arguments against Dignitas. "Scumbag Jatt" is not one of them.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 07 2011 01:22 GMT
#1929
I side with craton here. I was always more pissed at WCG/RIOT for their decisions, but that doesnt mean Im not disappointed in voyboy and jatt for doing what they did.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
November 07 2011 01:24 GMT
#1930
LOL

Shake flamebaited all of you.
tobi9999
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1966 Posts
November 07 2011 01:32 GMT
#1931
when i say scumbag jatt it's not really with malicious intent, really just making fun of the entire situation lol.

i think it's the same for most of the pros that say it

"tobi is ur iq 9999? cuz i think it might be u so smart wowowow." -Artosis
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-07 01:46:14
November 07 2011 01:45 GMT
#1932
Lol Dyrus has outsourced his jungle timers, someone whispering them to him while he plays :D (on his stream now)
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
November 07 2011 01:51 GMT
#1933
honestly, the only thing i'm truly upset by is jatt's participation in both qualifiers. IMHO, dignitas was well within its rights to question an admin on needing another set if they had even an inkling of believing they had another chance to win the qualifiers. I cannot honestly say that i wouldn't take that chance.
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
Takkara
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2503 Posts
November 07 2011 01:57 GMT
#1934
The ONLY thing I blame Dignitas for is Voyboys release statement congratulating CDE and saying that they were the rightful team to go to WCG and that he was confident that WCG would change their mind and reinstate CDE as the champions... followed up by playing the game and then taking the spot.

If you were just blowing smoke up everyone's ass, don't waste our time or insult our intelligence.
Gee gee gee gee baby baby baby
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
November 07 2011 01:57 GMT
#1935
Barbsq was the SC2 community up in arms when huk went to both qualifiers?
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
November 07 2011 02:03 GMT
#1936
On November 07 2011 10:45 daemir wrote:
Lol Dyrus has outsourced his jungle timers, someone whispering them to him while he plays :D (on his stream now)

this is effective
true story
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Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
November 07 2011 02:06 GMT
#1937
LOL Loci, accidentally forgetting to swap with Morgana so now he's laning Shaco and the Morg is jungling. @_@
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 07 2011 02:16 GMT
#1938
On November 07 2011 11:06 Apex wrote:
LOL Loci, accidentally forgetting to swap with Morgana so now he's laning Shaco and the Morg is jungling. @_@


Did he he turn his stream off? Says offline
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
November 07 2011 02:19 GMT
#1939
On November 07 2011 11:16 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 11:06 Apex wrote:
LOL Loci, accidentally forgetting to swap with Morgana so now he's laning Shaco and the Morg is jungling. @_@


Did he he turn his stream off? Says offline

I think he's on another stream but Apex is teasing us.
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17921 Posts
November 07 2011 02:28 GMT
#1940
On November 07 2011 07:24 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 07:18 Cixah wrote:
Should morg shit on malz mid? I've had decent success just banning Kass and then leaving sion or morg open and then WTF BBQ destroying them mid. I trade CS as quickly as morg does and then when I hit 6 she has to either actively get ganks or just not be anywhere near me or get gibbed. Sion is pretty easy too if you get good about landing Q.

Also, I never see malz much anymore. Is there a major contributing factor or did he just die out?

Salce pretty much summed it up yesterday on stream. Malz gets hardcountered by a single item- QSS. Also Sion clears waves better, ganks better, and isnt countered by QSS. So there really isnt a reason to ever pick malz. Salce also mentioned that malz ratios are shit.

I thought this was common knowledge? QSS is an amazing although situational item.

His ratios arent that bad i dunno wtf he's talking about
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