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red_b
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1267 Posts
November 06 2011 22:45 GMT
#1901
elo reset was a waste of time.

ratings seem more inflated now than they did before. maybe not at the top of the ladder but certainly in 1500 scrubville where I get to play the quality of player seems to have, hardly believably, nose dived.
Those small maps were like a boxing match in a phone booth.
infinitestory
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States4053 Posts
November 06 2011 22:49 GMT
#1902
On November 07 2011 07:07 LoCicero wrote:
I wasn't going to say anything as I believe people are entitled to their own opinions, but seeing this scumbag jatt stuff on this forum bothers me. I don't want any "Scumbag Jatt" stuff on a forum that I respect. Any reasonable person could see that Scarra DID actually have video card troubles for the second disconnect (he completely stopped moving during the teamfight). Just because Jatt didn't want his team to stream doesn't mean he's an asshole, it just means he's very competitive (which he is, he gets really animated and excited while playing). What happened is what happened, and ultimately it wasn't Dignitas' fault for what occurred. WCG should have realized what was going on and made some decisions before it came down to AFTER the finals. As someone who has actually played with Dignitas and met them in real life they are all great guys (Scarra is arguably the nicest person I've ever met). They have received enough shit from all of the streamers and LoL general forums, I think they should at least get our respect here (Voyboy was getting death threats... Are you fucking kidding me?).

It seems to span all gaming communities that the gut reaction to drama is pitchforks. Not a whole lot we can do about the painful reddit threads, but I agree that we should at least be beyond that here. Quoting because this post needs to be read.
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Mondieu
Profile Joined November 2011
Romania803 Posts
November 06 2011 23:00 GMT
#1903
Thank you for the tips on Tristana. I guess Zeal is indeed a bad choice if I think twice. Just had a game against a fairly similar lane 100 CS @ 14-15 minutes mark with no real dominance on player kills.
Where can I watch candypanda / chaox stream ?
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
November 06 2011 23:01 GMT
#1904
On November 07 2011 07:39 spinesheath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 07:24 Two_DoWn wrote:
On November 07 2011 07:18 Cixah wrote:
Should morg shit on malz mid? I've had decent success just banning Kass and then leaving sion or morg open and then WTF BBQ destroying them mid. I trade CS as quickly as morg does and then when I hit 6 she has to either actively get ganks or just not be anywhere near me or get gibbed. Sion is pretty easy too if you get good about landing Q.

Also, I never see malz much anymore. Is there a major contributing factor or did he just die out?

Salce pretty much summed it up yesterday on stream. Malz gets hardcountered by a single item- QSS. Also Sion clears waves better, ganks better, and isnt countered by QSS. So there really isnt a reason to ever pick malz. Salce also mentioned that malz ratios are shit.

Malz gets hardcountered by 5 QSS.
Malz deals WAY more DPS than Sion, Malz has WAY more range than Sion, Malz has an AoE Silence that goes through spellshields.

Sion might be better early/midgame (which is before people get QSS, interestingly), but I'd take Malz over Sion for lategame any day.

Oh and bad ratios? Are you kidding me? 0.8 AoE on Q, 0.8 on E, 1.3 on R, and decent scaling on his W (consider that it is AoE and DoT again). That's pretty solid for his cooldowns and range.

Im just repeating his reasoning. Dun shoot the messenger.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
unichan
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States4223 Posts
November 06 2011 23:06 GMT
#1905
On November 07 2011 07:07 LoCicero wrote:
I wasn't going to say anything as I believe people are entitled to their own opinions, but seeing this scumbag jatt stuff on this forum bothers me. I don't want any "Scumbag Jatt" stuff on a forum that I respect. Any reasonable person could see that Scarra DID actually have video card troubles for the second disconnect (he completely stopped moving during the teamfight). Just because Jatt didn't want his team to stream doesn't mean he's an asshole, it just means he's very competitive (which he is, he gets really animated and excited while playing). What happened is what happened, and ultimately it wasn't Dignitas' fault for what occurred. WCG should have realized what was going on and made some decisions before it came down to AFTER the finals. As someone who has actually played with Dignitas and met them in real life they are all great guys (Scarra is arguably the nicest person I've ever met). They have received enough shit from all of the streamers and LoL general forums, I think they should at least get our respect here (Voyboy was getting death threats... Are you fucking kidding me?).

Same, I didn't want to say anything but thanks for this, Loci. Leave Dignitas alone, they asked a legitimate question to the admins and Jatt also asked a legitimate question to the admins. The unfortunate fact that the tourney admins seemed to not know the rules well shouldn't mean that you guys have to right to talk so much shit and be such assholes about these guys. Jatt isn't a scumbag, I think it is kind of stupid that he tried to play in two qualifiers and he flaunted it, but it's not his fault that the admins told him he could. Holy shit.
:)
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
November 06 2011 23:09 GMT
#1906
On November 07 2011 06:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 05:53 taLbuk wrote:
On November 07 2011 05:52 JackDino wrote:
On November 07 2011 05:50 taLbuk wrote:
I'm sorry but why in the hell does spectator mode force a delay? Obviously having a delay choice is nice, but I remember thinking how pathetic it was watching CLG win gamescon, than stand up and celebrate when the projectors above them were still a minute off from their victory lol.

To prevent cheating.


Sigh, no really?

the point is it should be optional, not forced, again, imagine starcraft having a 1 minute forced delay at lans like mlg and gsl, i can see it now, huk coming out of his booth cheering while the audience is still a minute off lol

turn it on for online tournaments, and off for lans and when your spectating your friends or maybe coaching someone,


zzz...

That's a retarded scenario. Herp derp, HuK comes out of his booth asaply after a game.

There are benefits to having a stream/cast delayed by 1-2 minutes. I'd rather not have casters tip toe around their casting during key points of a game if the booths are not soundproof or have player be able to read the audience's reaction. It's far easier and cheaper to delay a stream by a little bit than invest in top notch gaming booth, for example.

But seriously, is a minute delay on stream going to ruin your experience of being at or watching a live tournament? -_-

Edit: your example of Gamescon even proves my point. LoL isn't like SC where individual players get their own booth. iirc, LoL played on a stage where each team sits at a long table. A delay is a necessity at LANs. Fair play should trump all.


its not the point that it IS there that bothers me, its the point you cannot take it off, what if i'm spectating a friend to give him some pointers? i can't even over the shoulder him because there is a minute fuckin delay lol
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
November 06 2011 23:13 GMT
#1907
On November 07 2011 06:47 57 Corvette wrote:
Im just done with league.
Too depressed and tired to take on 1050 ranked.

Just played Sion at 1100 on a friend account, got 15/0/12 :D This Elo ROCKS !!!
The legend of Darien lives on
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 06 2011 23:13 GMT
#1908
On November 07 2011 08:09 taLbuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 06:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
On November 07 2011 05:53 taLbuk wrote:
On November 07 2011 05:52 JackDino wrote:
On November 07 2011 05:50 taLbuk wrote:
I'm sorry but why in the hell does spectator mode force a delay? Obviously having a delay choice is nice, but I remember thinking how pathetic it was watching CLG win gamescon, than stand up and celebrate when the projectors above them were still a minute off from their victory lol.

To prevent cheating.


Sigh, no really?

the point is it should be optional, not forced, again, imagine starcraft having a 1 minute forced delay at lans like mlg and gsl, i can see it now, huk coming out of his booth cheering while the audience is still a minute off lol

turn it on for online tournaments, and off for lans and when your spectating your friends or maybe coaching someone,


zzz...

That's a retarded scenario. Herp derp, HuK comes out of his booth asaply after a game.

There are benefits to having a stream/cast delayed by 1-2 minutes. I'd rather not have casters tip toe around their casting during key points of a game if the booths are not soundproof or have player be able to read the audience's reaction. It's far easier and cheaper to delay a stream by a little bit than invest in top notch gaming booth, for example.

But seriously, is a minute delay on stream going to ruin your experience of being at or watching a live tournament? -_-

Edit: your example of Gamescon even proves my point. LoL isn't like SC where individual players get their own booth. iirc, LoL played on a stage where each team sits at a long table. A delay is a necessity at LANs. Fair play should trump all.


its not the point that it IS there that bothers me, its the point you cannot take it off, what if i'm spectating a friend to give him some pointers? i can't even over the shoulder him because there is a minute fuckin delay lol


If you're standing next to him can't you just look at his monitor?
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
November 06 2011 23:17 GMT
#1909
I do think custom games ought to have a delay time that you can choose at game creation. If games warrant a delay, the organizers can make the choice to use one. If they do ever enable spectator mode for regular games, which seems unlikely, the delay should be forced.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
November 06 2011 23:18 GMT
#1910
On November 07 2011 07:49 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 07:07 LoCicero wrote:
I wasn't going to say anything as I believe people are entitled to their own opinions, but seeing this scumbag jatt stuff on this forum bothers me. I don't want any "Scumbag Jatt" stuff on a forum that I respect. Any reasonable person could see that Scarra DID actually have video card troubles for the second disconnect (he completely stopped moving during the teamfight). Just because Jatt didn't want his team to stream doesn't mean he's an asshole, it just means he's very competitive (which he is, he gets really animated and excited while playing). What happened is what happened, and ultimately it wasn't Dignitas' fault for what occurred. WCG should have realized what was going on and made some decisions before it came down to AFTER the finals. As someone who has actually played with Dignitas and met them in real life they are all great guys (Scarra is arguably the nicest person I've ever met). They have received enough shit from all of the streamers and LoL general forums, I think they should at least get our respect here (Voyboy was getting death threats... Are you fucking kidding me?).

It seems to span all gaming communities that the gut reaction to drama is pitchforks. Not a whole lot we can do about the painful reddit threads, but I agree that we should at least be beyond that here. Quoting because this post needs to be read.

Im pretty sure that spans all communities period. People are really good at not engaging their brains. A painful reality anyone who plays LoL is familiar with
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
November 06 2011 23:30 GMT
#1911
On November 07 2011 08:00 Mondieu wrote:
Thank you for the tips on Tristana. I guess Zeal is indeed a bad choice if I think twice. Just had a game against a fairly similar lane 100 CS @ 14-15 minutes mark with no real dominance on player kills.
Where can I watch candypanda / chaox stream ?

If CandyPanda or Chaox are streaming, their stream will appear on the lists here. A list of Tristana videos is also here for you to check out.

Keep playing that Yordle. She's really cool. ^^
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Deux
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States159 Posts
November 06 2011 23:36 GMT
#1912
Voyboy browsing TL on stream, has the registration page up
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
November 06 2011 23:38 GMT
#1913
On November 07 2011 08:18 Treadmill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2011 07:49 infinitestory wrote:
On November 07 2011 07:07 LoCicero wrote:
I wasn't going to say anything as I believe people are entitled to their own opinions, but seeing this scumbag jatt stuff on this forum bothers me. I don't want any "Scumbag Jatt" stuff on a forum that I respect. Any reasonable person could see that Scarra DID actually have video card troubles for the second disconnect (he completely stopped moving during the teamfight). Just because Jatt didn't want his team to stream doesn't mean he's an asshole, it just means he's very competitive (which he is, he gets really animated and excited while playing). What happened is what happened, and ultimately it wasn't Dignitas' fault for what occurred. WCG should have realized what was going on and made some decisions before it came down to AFTER the finals. As someone who has actually played with Dignitas and met them in real life they are all great guys (Scarra is arguably the nicest person I've ever met). They have received enough shit from all of the streamers and LoL general forums, I think they should at least get our respect here (Voyboy was getting death threats... Are you fucking kidding me?).

It seems to span all gaming communities that the gut reaction to drama is pitchforks. Not a whole lot we can do about the painful reddit threads, but I agree that we should at least be beyond that here. Quoting because this post needs to be read.

Im pretty sure that spans all communities period. People are really good at not engaging their brains. A painful reality anyone who plays LoL is familiar with

Can hate it all you want, but they did more than enough underhanded bs to deserve it.
twitch.tv/cratonz
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
November 06 2011 23:38 GMT
#1914
I don't see what jatt did as flaunting. I mainly just saw it as him joking around about being able to play in 2 cause he prob just figured the rules were retarded that way. It's basically "oh I can do this and that...weird but okay" *makes jokes to entertain* and then everyone goes full retard about it and is like "herpderp scumbag jatt." although I don't expect much from Reddit other than memes.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8751 Posts
November 06 2011 23:40 GMT
#1915
the answer is always to blame everything on wcg
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 06 2011 23:41 GMT
#1916
...........And the Dignitas is awesome and the people that hate on them are scumbags bandwagon begins.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
November 06 2011 23:41 GMT
#1917
Next SOTG, more wcg blamefest.

Anyway, what happened to all the Master Yis?
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17264 Posts
November 06 2011 23:44 GMT
#1918
exhaust + stun is what happened
twitch.tv/cratonz
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
November 06 2011 23:45 GMT
#1919
Why not just get QSS or maybe clense?
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
November 06 2011 23:49 GMT
#1920
I'm happy Voyboy has been playing Ezreal again lately, his ezzy is really sick.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
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