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Use the QQ thread.
If you whine in GD, you'll get warned.

- Neo, 9:49 KST, Nov 9th
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
November 03 2011 09:22 GMT
#941
Atleast you dont die 100% on a gank now after lvl6
KCCO!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 03 2011 09:26 GMT
#942
On November 03 2011 18:22 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Atleast you dont die 100% on a gank now after lvl6

How did you die to a gank with the old ultimate?
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 03 2011 09:41 GMT
#943
On November 03 2011 18:26 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 18:22 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Atleast you dont die 100% on a gank now after lvl6

How did you die to a gank with the old ultimate?

"Oh shit someone is coming oh shit stun projectile is flying I better just stand here and not use my ult cuz that'd be silly. Oh shit I'm dead I wish ult would break cc because man it's so hard to guess when you're gonna get ccd in a gank."
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
November 03 2011 09:46 GMT
#944
what is the general consensus about malzahar? How strong is he considered to the currently played AP champs like brand etc? who does he counter and who counter's him at mid?
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 03 2011 09:47 GMT
#945
Malz is ok just fallen out of flavour, wouldn't put him against kassa or morg though since you'll never ever get an ult off against them if they're not completely retarded.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
November 03 2011 09:48 GMT
#946
More like 'ah crap i got caught in a stun/fear/slow anyway, my ult wont help much more now'
KCCO!
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
November 03 2011 09:50 GMT
#947
Which brings us back to the point that his ult has been made a bit more noob friendly.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
November 03 2011 09:52 GMT
#948
the hardest part about playing alistar is not baiting your own team
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
November 03 2011 09:54 GMT
#949
On November 03 2011 18:50 JackDino wrote:
Which brings us back to the point that his ult has been made a bit more noob friendly.


Thats probably it im not the best player in the world for sure, but even when ur good, u still can get hit by skillshots / stuns / snares n such when ur trying to dodge. So not saying you couldnt do it before, but even IF you get hit, ur not as fcked anymore
KCCO!
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
November 03 2011 09:54 GMT
#950
On November 03 2011 18:50 JackDino wrote:
Which brings us back to the point that his ult has been made a bit more noob friendly.

Just played vs a olaf as malz. He was quite fed and killed 2 of my teammates 1v2 and survived with 10% health remaining. I walk up to him and ult him, he pops his own ult and killed me in a blink. :/
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 09:56:35
November 03 2011 09:55 GMT
#951
Not to mention, depending on who you are against and who the jungler is, you can just get doublekills because olaf is stronk.
On November 03 2011 18:54 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 18:50 JackDino wrote:
Which brings us back to the point that his ult has been made a bit more noob friendly.

Just played vs a olaf as malz. He was quite fed and killed 2 of my teammates 1v2 and survived with 10% health remaining. I walk up to him and ult him, he pops his own ult and killed me in a blink. :/

It's really easy to pre-ult a malz ult though so doesn't matter that much:p, unless you flash out of a brush and insta ult.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
anmolsinghmzn2009
Profile Joined June 2011
India1783 Posts
November 03 2011 10:08 GMT
#952
On November 03 2011 18:55 JackDino wrote:
Not to mention, depending on who you are against and who the jungler is, you can just get doublekills because olaf is stronk.
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 18:54 anmolsinghmzn2009 wrote:
On November 03 2011 18:50 JackDino wrote:
Which brings us back to the point that his ult has been made a bit more noob friendly.

Just played vs a olaf as malz. He was quite fed and killed 2 of my teammates 1v2 and survived with 10% health remaining. I walk up to him and ult him, he pops his own ult and killed me in a blink. :/

It's really easy to pre-ult a malz ult though so doesn't matter that much:p, unless you flash out of a brush and insta ult.

Well yes but then the ult still does its damage. Now it removed the ult entirely and I just dumbly stood there as he killed me :p
Dunk first. Ask questions while dunking.
bosiddon
Profile Joined September 2010
308 Posts
November 03 2011 10:50 GMT
#953
just had 60% of my team dc for like 5+ minutes and didn't get loss forgiven what da heck
2035
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
November 03 2011 10:56 GMT
#954
On November 03 2011 17:16 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2011 17:07 Ryuu314 wrote:
She does fine against sion and kass if you know what you're doing imo... For sion you just play safe and pop his shield whenever he tries to harass. Against Kass you need to try to get an early advantage with your range advantage before his Q harass becomes too strong.

You can't pop Sion's shield without blowing both your spells (which means he attritions your mana instead of your health), and you still have no good way of dealing with his ability to just blow up the creeps and leave, since your wave-clearing ability is much poorer than his.

Go 21 offense on Annie, blow Sion's shield ASAP with QW, autoattack him down.
Has worked pretty damn well for me so far. Except for that one time where somehow my QW+auto didn't blow his shield. I still don't understand that.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Shawngood
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany473 Posts
November 03 2011 11:26 GMT
#955
On November 03 2011 16:23 TheYango wrote:
Personally, I like the 2-phased ban system that exists in DotA competitive play--after each team has made 3 picks, there's a second banning phase where each team bans an additional 2 heroes. This allows for you to make strategic bans directed at the type of team-comp your opponent appears to be going for with their initial 3 picks, and makes banning on the whole more interesting, IMO.

That sounds interesting. Since I'm lazy: Could you describe the ban/pick process in more detail? How many champions are banned/picked in what order?

A ban #1
B ban #1
A ban #2
B ban #2
A pick #1
B pick #1 & #2
A pick #2 & #3
B pick #3
A ban #3
B ban #3
...

Like that? How many bans are there overall?
@ESL_Shawn
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
November 03 2011 11:32 GMT
#956
what about a system where you ban champions til theres only 10 left, then start picking
Moderatormy tatsu loops r fuckin nice
bN`
Profile Joined May 2009
Slovenia504 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 11:36:03
November 03 2011 11:35 GMT
#957
Each team gets 5 bans and 5 picks. First each team bans 3 heroes, then they pick 1-2-2-1 then ban another 2 then pick 1-2-1.

Personally I'd enjoy more bans in ranked solo queue just so people would be forced to experiment more however I can see the downside of people's favourite and/or fotm champs always being permabanned
"It's just a ride." - Bill Hicks
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
November 03 2011 11:37 GMT
#958
On November 03 2011 20:32 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
what about a system where you ban champions til theres only 10 left, then start picking

you would see some very strange games. It would be a cool way to make people try out unused champs.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Demonace34
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2493 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 11:44:13
November 03 2011 11:43 GMT
#959
On November 03 2011 20:35 bN` wrote:
Each team gets 5 bans and 5 picks. First each team bans 3 heroes, then they pick 1-2-2-1 then ban another 2 then pick 1-2-1.

Personally I'd enjoy more bans in ranked solo queue just so people would be forced to experiment more however I can see the downside of people's favourite and/or fotm champs always being permabanned


Wouldn't this be a problem eventually if the teams pick their champions like they do now. The 2nd ban phase they could screw over a big part of champions viable for support, etc.

I think it would just be better to have more bans at the beginning and maybe 1 or 2 bans in the middle of picking order.
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shinarit
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary900 Posts
November 03 2011 11:47 GMT
#960
On November 03 2011 18:52 zulu_nation8 wrote:
the hardest part about playing alistar is not baiting your own team


This is true with almost every initiator tank. Good communication is essential, premade with some voip preferred
T for BoxeR, Z for IdrA, P because i have no self-respect
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