EPT[Patch 1.0.0.128: Shyvana] General Discussion - Page 29
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Two_DoWn
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TieN.nS)
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BlackMagister
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http://www.own3d.tv/SoloMid#/live/6416 | ||
NeoIllusions
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OddOne has been doing Jungle Karth with great success in the past day. | ||
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Two_DoWn
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demonik187
United States575 Posts
On November 02 2011 13:23 overt wrote: Eh, I think zerkers might be better on her than sorcs and I don't really like Madreds but if you build sorcs and they are really tanky I guess I can see it. I'm glad you clarified it was Wit's cause LW plus sorcs/Madreds made zero sense to me lol. Zerkers are ok for early game I guess and the attack speed thing for her is a cool concept but it really only serves to build rage faster and lower the cool down on Q, which are definitely good things, I admit, but you don't actually need that much of it to accomplish this. I was building zerkers in previous games, but after using them I think sorcs is so much better for a damage build. I took sorcs for lulz because the enemy cc was negligible and I was getting fed. To my delight the extra magic pen wrecked faces with W and E in dragon form. Honestly, though, I think I'll typically take mercs since usually you have to be in the heart of a teamfight to do damage and they WILL unleash all their cc and focus on you. Though it wasn't used, a last whisper really isnt that out of the question since double penetration (lawl) would work just fine with her. I'm sure there are better items, but an aoe cleave with Q (in dragon form ofc) that penetrates 40% of the enemy team's armor seems pretty dandy. IDK I guess I just mainly build her for when she's in dragon form, since the uptime is so frequent. It seems like you can build her almost any path you'd like and she'll still be effective in some way. I'm sure it will take some more testing to find an optimal build(s) for her. I'm really interested in ways you guys have built her and your thoughts/theorycrafts. | ||
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Lorken
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Yttrasil
Sweden651 Posts
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demonik187
United States575 Posts
On November 02 2011 14:36 Two_DoWn wrote: So now that there is a thread in the overall General forum, can we agree to only talk about WCG there and leave this thread for actual lol shit? Yes, please. | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On November 02 2011 14:36 demonik187 wrote: Zerkers are ok for early game I guess and the attack speed thing for her is a cool concept but it really only serves to build rage faster and lower the cool down on Q, which are definitely good things, I admit, but you don't actually need that much of it to accomplish this. I was building zerkers in previous games, but after using them I think sorcs is so much better for a damage build. I took sorcs for lulz because the enemy cc was negligible and I was getting fed. To my delight the extra magic pen wrecked faces with W and E in dragon form. Honestly, though, I think I'll typically take mercs since usually you have to be in the heart of a teamfight to do damage and they WILL unleash all their cc and focus on you. I just meant, for damage output, I would think zerkers would be more damage than sorcs. I could be wrong though. I'd go mercs probably every game with her. I don't like Last Whisper on her because you shouldn't be hitting tanks you should be using dragon to jump on squishies who shouldn't have much armor or MR. I liked SV's build of Wriggle's -> mercs -> Wit's -> Phage -> Atmogs. | ||
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
On November 02 2011 15:03 randomKo_Orean wrote: What the hell? Did people JUST realize sion is OP? He works in solo q, not so much in arranged. The crux of Sion is breaking his shield before he can use it. If he doesn't deal damage with his shield, he's somewhat subpar. He has crazy farm potential however. | ||
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demonik187
United States575 Posts
On November 02 2011 14:59 overt wrote: I just meant, for damage output, I would think zerkers would be more damage than sorcs. I could be wrong though. I'd go mercs probably every game with her. I don't like Last Whisper on her because you shouldn't be hitting tanks you should be using dragon to jump on squishies who shouldn't have much armor or MR. I liked SV's build of Wriggle's -> mercs -> Wit's -> Phage -> Atmogs. Yeah I was watching his stream earlier when he was jungling with her and she seems pretty viable in either lane or jungle. Some people think that because she lacks a hard cc she can't gank as well some others, but a gank sub 6 is easily accomplished with the movespeed from w, and if you take exhaust it's almost a guaranteed kill or at the very least will make them back or blow flash. After you hit 6 ganks are ezpz. I fully agree that LW is a very situational item for her as is usually the case with most champs. I haven't gotten to the point were I could finish an atmogs build, but it does seem right up her alley. So many options with her. I like it. | ||
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BlackMagister
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FieryBalrog
United States1381 Posts
On November 02 2011 13:09 Ryuu314 wrote: First off, the original rules for WCG qualifiers state that the team going in from winner's bracket has a 1 game advantage in a best of 3 set. Which means Dignitas entered the match 1-0. CDE has to, and did, win 2 takes in a row to qualify. The fact that it was "miscommunicated" that it was a best of 3 sets with Dignitas having a one set advantage is just utter bullshit. No tournament in the history of any fucking esports makes you play a best of 3 sets. That's a maximum of 9 games, minimum of 4. That's just fuckign retarded. It's a retarded idea for a finals setup in just about any sport on earth, for that matter. Esports be damned. | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
On November 02 2011 15:37 FieryBalrog wrote: It's a retarded idea for a finals setup in just about any sport on earth, for that matter. Esports be damned. Uh, it's actually pretty common in sports and e-sports, to take whatever match type you use in the normal brackets, do that match type as a bo3 with a 1-0 match lead for the winner's bracket player/team. The rest of the brackets were a bo3, so it's imo pretty stupid to have the finals be anything less than a full bo3 (like the 1-0 bo3 that it was.) 1-0 lead on a bo5, sure. 1-0 lead on the sets with a 3x bo3 set, that's pretty typical, though it's obviously impractical with the potential length that lol has. | ||
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
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Cloud9157
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She doesn't die. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On November 02 2011 16:00 sylverfyre wrote: Uh, it's actually pretty common in sports and e-sports, to take whatever match type you use in the normal brackets, do that match type as a bo3 with a 1-0 match lead for the winner's bracket player/team. The rest of the brackets were a bo3, so it's imo pretty stupid to have the finals be anything less than a full bo3 (like the 1-0 bo3 that it was.) 1-0 lead on a bo5, sure. 1-0 lead on the sets with a 3x bo3 set, that's pretty typical, though it's obviously impractical with the potential length that lol has. i know the nba does best of 7 and the nfl does just one game. if the wcg was truly a best of 3 sets with each set being 3 games, that's a maximum of 9 games being played which is unheard of in any sport | ||
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