EPTas in 1 gold per 5 seconds
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
as in 1 gold per 5 seconds | ||
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BloodNinja
United States2791 Posts
On October 22 2011 09:26 RogerX wrote: Thank you, I thought these were it. What does it stand for Gold point 5? Or something? gp5 = Gold per 5 (as in 1 gold every 5 seconds) gp10 = Gold per 10 (as in 1 gold every 10 seconds) | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On October 22 2011 09:27 barbsq wrote: gold per 5 as in 1 gold per 5 seconds Also, mp5 = mana per 5, hp5 = health per 5. It's technically gp10 though. | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
On October 22 2011 09:29 HazMat wrote: Also, mp5 = mana per 5, hp5 = health per 5. It's technically gp10 though. i disagree, gp10 is gangplank 2010 | ||
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Craton
United States17278 Posts
On October 22 2011 08:37 ArC_man wrote: +1, graduate students 2 stronk at arguing. I'm also a graduate student. Never fear! | ||
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LancerJ
United States160 Posts
Yango has provided one of the only useful posts, read it twice if you want some closure on the topic: + Show Spoiler + On October 22 2011 04:09 TheYango wrote: It takes on the order of like 10 minutes for gold/5 items to match the cost-effectiveness of Doran's items (HoG/Kage break even with the plain stat counterparts at 5-7 minutes, and Doran's are significantly more cost-effective than the plain stat items). Personally I find the "supports need gp5 for ward money" argument to be extremely lacking given how long it takes for gp5 to pay for itself. Seems better to get Doran's + 5 wards now, rather than get a Philo/HoG, and slowly earn those 5 wards over the period of 10 minutes. They start generating surplus gold after that, but I think 10 minutes is plenty of time to turn the immediate spendable gold into a real advantage. Compare: 2x Doran's Ring + 9 Wards 200 HP 30 AP 10 mp5 vs. HoG + Philo 250 HP 18 hp5 8 mp5 1 gold/sec gold gain You get better stats from the Doran's Rings, and it takes 11+ minutes for the gold gain to generate 9 wards. Again, the gold/5 will start generating surplus after that, but 11 minutes is a really fucking long time for you to turn your immediate benefits into further advantage. As stated, it takes ~11 minutes just for HoG + Philo to catch up. In order to actually be the advantageous choice the game would have to go on for 20+ minutes past when you made the purchase. At that point it's personal preference but I imagine very few players would argue in favor of sacrificing the first 30-35 minutes of the game for the late game that may never come, especially in solo queue. | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/RYtZu.jpg) | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
ROFL, that is the best picture. Okay, so now that I understand GP items, do seperate GP items still stack? I open up my Jarvan in this way. | ||
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crate
United States2474 Posts
On October 22 2011 10:09 RogerX wrote: Okay, so now that I understand GP items, do seperate GP items still stack? I open up my Jarvan in this way. Yes. | ||
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RogerX
New Zealand3180 Posts
Yep, thanks. + Show Spoiler + my 1ooo'th post: yay | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
http://www.clgaming.net | ||
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LancerJ
United States160 Posts
On October 22 2011 10:19 overt wrote: Lineup:locodoco in a scrim against most of CLG. Can watch from jiji or Hotshot perspective. http://www.clgaming.net + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xqSiW.jpg) | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Been experimenting with SK Snoopeh's Jungle Blitz. For those who are interested, he runs 16/3/11, 3 AD+ 6 Apen Reds, Armour Yellows, AS Blues, 2 AD + 1 AS Quints, start with E then W next. Start Cloth+5 and blue, can gank getting Q after wraiths. Has decent clear time. I still need mote runes but it works with APen Reds and AD Quints, although you do get really low and are at risk from counterjungling. A few other things I've heard... Surprise Fiddlesticks coming out next week, Cait and Graves getting nerfs next patch, new BF+hybrid items coming soon, dedicated Korean Client and Season 2 should be after Harrowing I think? | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
CLG "shit, we cant gank anyone. Cant gank morg and galio cuz of their shields" "owait. Its loco on kog. and not trist. he thinks he has an escape but doesnt." "riiiggghhhtt." | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
And the last 5 pages, damn you ootuh. Real derail. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
Can't even spell it out properly. | ||
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whatsupchan
United States61 Posts
clg finishes game anyway lol | ||
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LancerJ
United States160 Posts
Stats: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/q7723.jpg) | ||
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WhiteNights
United States252 Posts
On October 22 2011 09:50 LancerJ wrote: I actually agree with Utah's conclusions but the arguments on both sides have mostly been quite bad. A few of Utah's posts have been particularly juvenile but picking them apart at this point would be a waste of everyone's time. Put simply there's been a lot of unstated assumptions, assertions about edge cases during a general discussion, ignoring of utility and opportunity cost in an inverted pendulum system, etc. Yango has provided one of the only useful posts, read it twice if you want some closure on the topic: + Show Spoiler + On October 22 2011 04:09 TheYango wrote: It takes on the order of like 10 minutes for gold/5 items to match the cost-effectiveness of Doran's items (HoG/Kage break even with the plain stat counterparts at 5-7 minutes, and Doran's are significantly more cost-effective than the plain stat items) Ruby Crystal is 475 for 180 health. Heart of Gold gives 250 health, so that would be priced at 660 gold, but it costs 825 gold, so it takes thirty-three ticks to catch up, or five and a half minutes. Also, is playing aggressive support 100% guaranteed to get you raped at high ELO? I'm literally never at 100% health or mana in lane because I trade harass every fifteen seconds. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 22 2011 11:16 WhiteNights wrote: Ruby Crystal is 475 for 180 health. Heart of Gold gives 250 health, so that would be priced at 660 gold, but it costs 825 gold, so it takes thirty-three ticks to catch up, or five and a half minutes. Also, is playing aggressive support 100% guaranteed to get you raped at high ELO? I'm literally never at 100% health or mana in lane because I trade harass every fifteen seconds. Except we're not comparing Hearts of Gold to Ruby Crystals, because nobody buys Ruby Crystals and just leaves them that way. We're comparing them to Doran's Ring, which is vastly more efficient than a Ruby Crystal. | ||
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