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On October 22 2011 12:45 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Saint likes to clear his jungle no matter what mobs spawned (omg wraiths) before going for a gank, which is a problem (in team play). But saint doing red and them taking baron have nothing to do with each other. CLG isn't going to fight 4v5 even if baron is hitting the other team. They are actually talking about two different problems. Saints play seems to be much more solo queue oriented where he has to carry and needs the farm, instead of trusting his team to get ganks to happen.
Hotshot doesn't even realize how many terrible mistakes he makes, which is why as a solo carry I much prefer Regi, he is very acutely aware of when he was playing stupid.
Only problem with regi is he is aware he is playing stupid, then he goes and does it anyway.
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Wow, A lilac seems so fucking bad. o.O
Also, I can see why CLG has such a problem with SV, he's making incredibly short and close calls. If his team doesn't react within splitseconds, they're fucked and it looks like a horrible call. dno, he always seems to be ahead of the others in his team tbh.
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lol that blue thing has been there forever. Last time it was posted it was "a tiny igloo for teemo."
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Saintvicious runs full AP page on Rammus? wut?
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On October 22 2011 12:01 crate wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 11:54 Two_DoWn wrote:
My point is simply that item slots on supports, more so than anyone else, matter. How do you reckon supports have more item slot problems? Everyone would like to keep 2 slots open for pots + wards, but it's often not really an option if you stack Doran's stuff like a lot of champs do (if you're a caster and have 3x Doran, boots, NLR, Blasting Wand at some point--you can't ward if you have that stuff). The only time I run out of item slots on supports is if I'm building Aegis before I complete it. Otherwise I find I'm selling items more often in every other role to make room for wards.
Supports simply get many more low-cost "pieces" of items. For example, an AD carry may stack 3 dorans and boots, but it's not a problem because that's still 2 slots free for BF and pots on the way to IE. AD doesn't get BF and pots and then try to get a zeal followed by a negatron. Most of the time, they'll turn the BF straight into a whole IE or BT before going to the next item. Supports don't work like that. A midgame support inventory might look like: Philo, HoG, boots, wards, Kindlegem, maybe pots or a piece of Aegis - most likely, even without farm, you're going to be pressed for item slots already. Rather than Philo Boots Dring Dring Wards Kindlegem, I'd take the survivability from HoG and part of Aegis instead of the two Drings.
man i worded that paragraph kinda poorly >____> owel
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10min normal queue then get a team of rioters l0l
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On October 22 2011 13:35 r.Evo wrote:
Wow, A lilac seems so fucking bad. o.O
Also, I can see why CLG has such a problem with SV, he's making incredibly short and close calls. If his team doesn't react within splitseconds, they're fucked and it looks like a horrible call. dno, he always seems to be ahead of the others in his team tbh.
I think it's just playstyle. Saint would do so much better if he played for solomid.
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On October 22 2011 13:48 ArC_man wrote:
Saintvicious runs full AP page on Rammus? wut?
I just checked his page, too. Did he switch it to that and delay > me, or was that for real?
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On October 22 2011 13:50 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 12:01 crate wrote:On October 22 2011 11:54 Two_DoWn wrote:
My point is simply that item slots on supports, more so than anyone else, matter. How do you reckon supports have more item slot problems? Everyone would like to keep 2 slots open for pots + wards, but it's often not really an option if you stack Doran's stuff like a lot of champs do (if you're a caster and have 3x Doran, boots, NLR, Blasting Wand at some point--you can't ward if you have that stuff). The only time I run out of item slots on supports is if I'm building Aegis before I complete it. Otherwise I find I'm selling items more often in every other role to make room for wards. Supports simply get many more low-cost "pieces" of items. For example, an AD carry may stack 3 dorans and boots, but it's not a problem because that's still 2 slots free for BF and pots on the way to IE. AD doesn't get BF and pots and then try to get a zeal followed by a negatron. Most of the time, they'll turn the BF straight into a whole IE or BT before going to the next item. Supports don't work like that. A midgame support inventory might look like: Philo, HoG, boots, wards, Kindlegem, maybe pots or a piece of Aegis - most likely, even without farm, you're going to be pressed for item slots already. man i worded that paragraph kinda poorly >____> owel
Unless you're building Aegis (or Stark's, I guess, but honestly supports probably don't care if they don't have a slot for the recurve bow except maybe Taric) this doesn't really happen though. Boots, wards, philo, 2x doran, kindlegem is just fine. Other than Aegis there aren't any items I can think of where you'll have more than 2 slots taken up and still need to pay a hefty combine cost.
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On October 22 2011 13:50 r.Evo wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 13:48 ArC_man wrote:
Saintvicious runs full AP page on Rammus? wut? I just checked his page, too. Did he switch it to that and delay > me, or was that for real?
There's no way, because he mentions having 38% dodge (or something ridiculous) in game.
I hate that he's playing rammus so much; he's one of the scariest solo queue junglers to face, and now they're going to be EVERYWHERE. Just like Skyhart/Wicked and Nasus 
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Haha. Watching how Chaox interacts with gurls on his stream for like 5 minutes makes me want to coach him so bad, lol.
Pickup coachings specifically tailored towards nerdy progamers - sounds like profit or do these guys not have enough money anyway? =D
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I ended up writing a script that does the whole bleap live/not live picture thing. It ended up not being needed, but I wrote it anyway for some php practice. If anyone is interested:
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Page was called CheckLive.php, so you'd do something like [ img]blahblah.com/CheckLive.php?ID=12345[ /img] where 12345 is your own3d ID.
<?php
$ID = $_GET["ID"];
$URL = "http://api.own3d.tv/liveCheck.php?live_id=".$ID;
$XML = simplexml_load_file($URL);
$isLive = $XML->liveEvent->isLive;
if ($isLive == "true")
$img = file_get_contents('onair.jpg');
else
$img = file_get_contents('offair.jpg');
header('content-type: image/gif');
echo $img;
?>
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Cait doesn't even need nerfs anymore really... Kog and Graves are definitely on her level, weaker carries need buffs(or nerf all 3? gets into discussion on whether relatively OP is where everyone should be, or 'average').
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On October 22 2011 12:50 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 12:45 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Saint likes to clear his jungle no matter what mobs spawned (omg wraiths) before going for a gank, which is a problem (in team play). But saint doing red and them taking baron have nothing to do with each other. CLG isn't going to fight 4v5 even if baron is hitting the other team. They are actually talking about two different problems. Saints play seems to be much more solo queue oriented where he has to carry and needs the farm, instead of trusting his team to get ganks to happen.
Hotshot doesn't even realize how many terrible mistakes he makes, which is why as a solo carry I much prefer Regi, he is very acutely aware of when he was playing stupid. Only problem with regi is he is aware he is playing stupid, then he goes and does it anyway.
It's really confusing to me how much Regi and Hotshot dislike each other when they're so fucking similar.
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On October 22 2011 14:48 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 12:50 Two_DoWn wrote:On October 22 2011 12:45 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Saint likes to clear his jungle no matter what mobs spawned (omg wraiths) before going for a gank, which is a problem (in team play). But saint doing red and them taking baron have nothing to do with each other. CLG isn't going to fight 4v5 even if baron is hitting the other team. They are actually talking about two different problems. Saints play seems to be much more solo queue oriented where he has to carry and needs the farm, instead of trusting his team to get ganks to happen.
Hotshot doesn't even realize how many terrible mistakes he makes, which is why as a solo carry I much prefer Regi, he is very acutely aware of when he was playing stupid. Only problem with regi is he is aware he is playing stupid, then he goes and does it anyway. It's really confusing to me how much Regi and Hotshot dislike each other when they're so fucking similar.
I actually think they are polar opposites. HSGG's biggest problem is inaction. He has trouble actually committing to anything besides farming, which is where most of his arguments come with SV.
Regi has trouble committing to anything besides suicidal aggression.
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On October 22 2011 14:52 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On October 22 2011 14:48 overt wrote:On October 22 2011 12:50 Two_DoWn wrote:On October 22 2011 12:45 SnK-Arcbound wrote:
Saint likes to clear his jungle no matter what mobs spawned (omg wraiths) before going for a gank, which is a problem (in team play). But saint doing red and them taking baron have nothing to do with each other. CLG isn't going to fight 4v5 even if baron is hitting the other team. They are actually talking about two different problems. Saints play seems to be much more solo queue oriented where he has to carry and needs the farm, instead of trusting his team to get ganks to happen.
Hotshot doesn't even realize how many terrible mistakes he makes, which is why as a solo carry I much prefer Regi, he is very acutely aware of when he was playing stupid. Only problem with regi is he is aware he is playing stupid, then he goes and does it anyway. It's really confusing to me how much Regi and Hotshot dislike each other when they're so fucking similar. I actually think they are polar opposites. HSGG's biggest problem is inaction. He has trouble actually committing to anything besides farming, which is where most of his arguments come with SV. Regi has trouble committing to anything besides suicidal aggression.
I meant more along the lines of inflated egos, always yelling at their teammates, and rarely admitting when they're wrong.
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Naw I think regi admits he is wrong. His most common tournament saying is "oh shit that was stupid LOL."
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