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Defury
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Germany206 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 06:53:22
October 07 2011 06:52 GMT
#761
Now Riot just has to rework some of the client to be more esport friendly and I'll be very happy :D
SHr3DD3r
Profile Joined March 2009
Pakistan2137 Posts
October 07 2011 07:09 GMT
#762
On October 07 2011 15:25 Brees wrote:
i wouldnt feel bad, SC2 isnt that good of a game really. Removed all my favorite units in BW so not too pleased with it. I just roll up broodwar if i ever wanna play sc again

Pretty much this.
Hit them hard! Hit them low! - Forever a Bisu Fan!~!
Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
October 07 2011 07:19 GMT
#763
tbh I always felt that SC2 overkilled itself for me. I massed games the day the beta came out and continued to play a lot of games, ladder and customs, until the beta ended, then it launched and there was just so much SC2 all over the place everywhere. It just became to tiring to find what pearls you should watch and what not to. (srs I wonder how much SC2 I would have seen if it wasnt for TL's superb battlereports etc)

then I tried LoL and I havent really played much SC2 in 2011. I still place 2nd in the local university tournament though
washed
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 07 2011 07:21 GMT
#764
On October 07 2011 15:04 Defury wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 14:58 Alzadar wrote:
On October 07 2011 14:43 Defury wrote:
On October 07 2011 14:30 Alzadar wrote:
On October 07 2011 14:26 Defury wrote:
So after getting to about level 19 I have attempted time and time again to go back and play Sc2 but just load up LoL instead. I still love sc2 and watch streams/tournies almost every day but just no desire to play.

Anyone else get this? someone less indecisive then me want to clue me in on why!?


I have this too, it's pretty bad.


It makes me question whether I should just accept it and become fully enveloped in LoL and have Sc2 as my secondary game.


I find that to be a scary concept. StarCraft is my being.


My dilemma as well.

My dilemma is that SC2 is shit compared to Broodwar, so if i feel like playing StarCraft i'll play BW(much like Brees) even though i mostly just play LoL
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
symbolic
Profile Joined August 2010
254 Posts
October 07 2011 07:26 GMT
#765
I find it ironic that people are knocking on SC2's competitive worth when DoTA -> LoL is much more dumbed down than BW -> SC2 imo.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 07 2011 07:27 GMT
#766
On October 07 2011 16:26 symbolic wrote:
I find it ironic that people are knocking on SC2's competitive worth when DoTA -> LoL is much more dumbed down than BW -> SC2 imo.

LoL isn't a DoTA successor, they are 2 different games. User preference, that is all.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
October 07 2011 07:29 GMT
#767
On October 07 2011 15:14 JackDino wrote:
What's the importance of animation cancelling? I read about karthus his animation being almost impossible to cancel or something and I don't ever find myself saying damn, wish I could animation cancel. I only do it by accident and miss cs over it sometimes~~


If you want an example of important animation canceling :

Trundle : using Q juste after W will make you start attacking 1sec faster than letting W animation finish.
Riven : using Q or E just after W will make it not stun you in the animation for 0.25s

" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 07:35:52
October 07 2011 07:35 GMT
#768
sorry, double post. Damned wifi connexion.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
October 07 2011 07:40 GMT
#769
Can someone please explain the rationale behind building lifesteal (WotA) on fiddlesticks. I've seen it on every fiddle that isn't me. It just seems so completely pointless.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 07:54:19
October 07 2011 07:53 GMT
#770
On October 07 2011 16:29 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2011 15:14 JackDino wrote:
What's the importance of animation cancelling? I read about karthus his animation being almost impossible to cancel or something and I don't ever find myself saying damn, wish I could animation cancel. I only do it by accident and miss cs over it sometimes~~


If you want an example of important animation canceling :

Trundle : using Q juste after W will make you start attacking 1sec faster than letting W animation finish.
Riven : using Q or E just after W will make it not stun you in the animation for 0.25s


I meant the importance of animation cancelling on your auto attack, I don't feel I ever need it, either that or I'm doing it when needed without knowing.
A question for pant players, what do you do if your opponent comes to lane with like a full armour runepage, does it matter a lot?
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Truez
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 08:01:20
October 07 2011 08:00 GMT
#771
Well I run 31 armpen on my panth runepage+masteries so it doesn't really matter how much armor they bring into lane.
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 08:03:56
October 07 2011 08:02 GMT
#772
On October 07 2011 17:00 Truez wrote:
Well I run 31 armpen on my panth runepage+masteries so it doesn't really matter how much armor they bring into lane.


what are your other runes? do you run any armor or magic resist runes run speed health?

oh and i'll add my QQ into this. Fuck solo queue bad players I get it, I'm in 1300 elo so I probably suck but why do people pick tryn and then constantly hit their ult at 3 Quarter health left.... Like don't you learn the fucking champ just a bit before you play them in ranked. Like fuck off please.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
October 07 2011 08:10 GMT
#773
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220361
For all your QQ posts, whenever you want, wherever you want.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Shelke14
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada6655 Posts
October 07 2011 08:14 GMT
#774
On October 07 2011 17:10 JackDino wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=220361
For all your QQ posts, whenever you want, wherever you want.



I know, thats why i added in the bit about the runes first! didnt wanna make two posts :D
Truez
Profile Joined July 2009
Australia147 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 08:17:45
October 07 2011 08:16 GMT
#775
Amrpen Reds, Armpen Quints, Mp5/lvl Yellows, and flat CDR Blues/flat MR blues depending on who I expect to face in lane. Smashgizmo uses armor yellows, but I strongly disagree.

21-0-9

With this setup you'll rock up in lane with 31 armpen, and possibly ~25armor/~35MR at level 1, depending on which blues you took. Unless your lane opponent specs a full armor runepage giving him +40 armor at level one (equating to ~65with masteries and base armor), then you'll be doing true damage from at least levels 1-8.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 08:21:10
October 07 2011 08:18 GMT
#776
Mp5/lvl yellows aren't that good since mana issues(which according to gizmo you shouldn't have) are earlygame, mid-lategame you really shouldn't have any mana issues, and with AD quints you should be doing more dmg vs most champs due to the scaling on his Q.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
October 07 2011 08:22 GMT
#777
So I finished with a 1279 rating last season. Though I took a break from the week before Brand to Talon patch. I think one of the reasons why I am a baddie, is that I switch around the champs I play constantly. So I should just pick a handful of champs and spam games with them.

I recently picked up Kennen and am very happy with him so far. His e lets me get out of stupid positions and ganks, while his R+W combo is decent in team fights even when the early game wasn't that good.
But I am not sure on which yellow runes I should run on him. Are the energy regen ones worth the ip? I rarely run out of energy... only in very drawn out team fights. So armor runes to make him tankier? Or should I get ap/level yellows?

Also I have a few friends that started playing LoL this week. Can anyone recommend a guide covering the basics? So far I basically told them to kill as many creeps as possible and only buy runes after they hit summoner level 20. Also dropped a link to the guide section of solo mid.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
October 07 2011 08:24 GMT
#778
On October 07 2011 16:40 Treadmill wrote:
Can someone please explain the rationale behind building lifesteal (WotA) on fiddlesticks. I've seen it on every fiddle that isn't me. It just seems so completely pointless.

It's a cheap upgrade to revolver (if you're going the revolver->wota->deathcap path), helps out your AP carry (since fiddle is generally not the main AP carry of the team), allows you to do major objectives easily (very easy to 2-man baron early on with fiddle), and also makes you deceptively hard to kill if your drain isn't interrupted.

Overall if you're going to be building revolver at all (instead of drings), it's worth it to upgrade to wota before getting a deathcap. If you're just getting a kage's pick and some drings it's better to just rush deathcap or zhonya.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-07 08:32:11
October 07 2011 08:24 GMT
#779
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=166126 Tell em to read this:p
Salce used to run energy/lvl yellows because he felt he needed them to keep up with bluebuff for manabased mages.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
R04R
Profile Joined March 2009
United States1631 Posts
October 07 2011 08:27 GMT
#780
or the newbie FAQ within that thread:
http://liquidlol.wikispaces.com/NewbieFAQ

kennen yellows optimally should be hp/lvl or ap/lvl, but armor or dodge runes should suffice as they're not as important rune slots as reds/blues/quints for kennen
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