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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-05 23:03:17
November 03 2010 22:27 GMT
#1
Please search the subforum and wiki before you ask questions

Bonus cookies if you search the old two threads, too. A lot of stuff has been asked before, and have been given meticulous answers. Especially when the questions are new.

http://liquidlol.wikispaces.com/

Don't trash the subforum

I kinda think it's a privilege to have it, and I also feel a bit of pride over the fact that our threads, although sometimes teetering dangerously close, never devolved to the brain-dead level of the DotA/HoN (pre-mod-intervention) thread. Contrary to Chrispy I think the thread had a significant amount of good content, and even if wrong it was posted with (usually) good intentions. Lets keep it that way.

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Newbie FAQ

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Do's and Don'ts

Do
- Do call MIAs. Not everyone is equipped with gosu Starcraft map awareness. I would say 90% of LoL players zone out when they are in lane. Do your teammates a favor and let them know when they could be ganked.
- Last hit. This is where your early game gold comes from, and it's important to try to get as close to 100% of each creepwave as possible. Early game item advantages snowball into mid to late game dominance.

Don't
- Don't auto attack creeps as soon as you reach your lane. Pushing your lane is bad. It leaves you very open to ganks from the enemy jungle at level 2-3 (hello Shaco)
- Don't facecheck brushes. You will always have an ally that has some sort of projectile skill. Whether it be a Mundo Axe, Ashe Volley, or Lux Bind. If the entire enemy team is sitting in that brush and you walk in, you are a free kill. (hello Garen) Sometimes, that one free kill and become a free Baron for the enemy team because your team cannot fight a 4v5
- Don't overextend. Farming is fabulous, everyone loves gold. But if the entire enemy team is MIA and you're pushing past that dead top tower to farm, it's probably a wise idea to back. Whenever you are farming a huge creep wave, immediately look up and see where the enemies are.

Yiruru's Whip of Love

Learn how to Last hit at Towers:
(In General)
-2 Tower Hits + Hit = Melee Creeps on most heroes, might need 2 hits on Champions with Low AD
-Tower Hit + 2 Hits = Ranged Creep

You WILL end up at least +100 gold from doing this, most likely more =[
Wrist every time someone randomly hits a creep and the tower gets it right after.

Watching the map should also be in the Do list.

For the people with no map awareness, here is Yiruru's guide to improving it.
(This is so I don't end up with NeoIllusions baddis that die after 4 people walk past two wards to gank them.
1) Download BW
2) Get on ICCUP
3) Host a game called "D- ZvP No DTs"

Anyone have anything else to fit in here?
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MrShank
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada144 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 23:09:08
November 03 2010 22:45 GMT
#2
Newbie questions:

Whats ELO?
Is the recommended items Ideal to get?


E: Fixed Typo
Relax - its just a game
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-03 23:24:47
November 03 2010 23:04 GMT
#3
On November 04 2010 07:45 MrShank wrote:
Newbie questions:

Whats ETO?
Is the recommended items Ideal to get?

ETO? I'm not sure, however maybe you mean ELO, which is the number that rates you as a player in the game to match you against even opponents

edit: completely skipped your recommended items question sorry. for most champions the recommended items are NOT the best for the champion, however they can be a decent guideline for when you're starting out until you have a better feel for the champion, and the game itself. I would say look at the stats on the recommended items and decide for yourself if you think it will help you in that particular game, they are a good place to start
You can't milk those!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
November 04 2010 00:57 GMT
#4
I'm not exactly a newbie to the game, however I suppose this question stays on topic.
I noticed a lot of you vets were talking about normal ELO (for example Brees being 2200? WTF?) but I could swear they removed the ability to scour the logs to find what your unranked ELO is.
Is there a way around this that I am not aware of? It would be kinda cool to know.
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Scamp
Profile Joined October 2008
United States1086 Posts
November 04 2010 02:56 GMT
#5
You should add the player list and their in-game summoner names.

+ Show Spoiler +
I just realized I never got myself added to that list. My summoner names are Unmay and Nathan Fillion.
Cheese is good for you!
BlueBird.
Profile Joined August 2008
United States3890 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 05:07:52
November 04 2010 05:02 GMT
#6
On November 04 2010 11:56 Scamp wrote:
You should add the player list and their in-game summoner names.

+ Show Spoiler +
I just realized I never got myself added to that list. My summoner names are Unmay and Nathan Fillion.


this.. everything else that should go here is already fitted in to the wiki.. I liked the format of our old opening post with the videos, and then the links to streams, the player list, the quick run down of thread/forum rules, etc.., so if you want to fit some of that in to here it would be ok..

If this is to be the future, Read this before posting thread, I feel it could use some of that as well as maybe a mod note, referring to this post


+ Show Spoiler +

Because you are all so damned interested in this game, we created a forum for you.

This forum will be moderated according to TL forum standards!

Same deal as the rest of the boards: don't create a thread just to post a screenshot, be civil to one another, don't post stupid 4chan memes or stupid image macros.

Any questions or concerns? Feel free to shoot me a javascript:addUBB_selected('reply_area',%20'spoiler')PM.

It's on you guys to make this section worthwhile. Make me proud~



Also anything else that will keep mindless posting down to a minimum outside of the "off topic" thread
Currently Playing: Android Netrunner, Gwent, Gloomhaven, Board Games
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-11-04 08:23:47
November 04 2010 08:21 GMT
#7
Probably have a Do's/Don't's section for newbies...
I can only think of a few Don't's right now so go ahead and start one I guess.

Do
- Do call MIAs. Not everyone is equipped with gosu Starcraft map awareness. I would say 90% of LoL players zone out when they are in lane. Do your teammates a favor and let them know when they could be ganked.

Don't
- Don't auto attack creeps as soon as you reach your lane. Pushing your lane is bad. It leaves you very open to ganks from the enemy jungle at level 2-3 (hello Shaco)
- Don't facecheck brushes. You will always have an ally that has some sort of projectile skill. Whether it be a Mundo Axe, Ashe Volley, or Lux Bind. If the entire enemy team is sitting in that brush and you walk in, you are a free kill. (hello Garen) Sometimes, that one free kill and become a free Baron for the enemy team because your team cannot fight a 4v5
- Don't overextend. Farming is fabulous, everyone loves gold. But if the entire enemy team is MIA and you're pushing past that dead top tower to farm, it's probably a wise idea to back. Whenever you are farming a huge creep wave, immediately look up and see where the enemies are.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
November 04 2010 15:59 GMT
#8
Rating: ***** (5) Stars

Review:
Pros: After reading this guide my skill and game sense improved astronomically. My APM is at an all time high of 30+ and my KDR is almost 1:1. This guide made leveling 1-30 a breeze. You might ask "what about bad teammates? This is a 5v5 or 3v3 game!" My response is what about them? The guide explains how to deal with idiots and manipulate them into being useful.

Cons: This guide was unable to cure cancer.

Additional Information:
This is a good place to start for beginners. If you have never played "MOBA" or some dota-like equivalant ask for advice and be aware.

Serious advice: Pressing tab not only shows creep kills but also if they are visible on the minimap. If the champion's name is greyed out that means he/she is not visible on the minimap and there is a chance they are in that bush you are about to facecheck. (walk into)

FADC
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
November 04 2010 19:58 GMT
#9
Do's: Check http://leaguecraft.com/strategies/guides for solid guides to the champion of your choice so you get a general idea of what items/runes/masteries to get and how to play it properly.

"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Darkchylde
Profile Joined January 2010
United States473 Posts
November 04 2010 22:28 GMT
#10
Shouldn't that be a "Don't"? There is far more valuable information on TL than on leaguecraft and my initial impression is that 90% of guides on leaguecraft / mobafire are not very good. Though this new forum kinda masks how much information there actually is.
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
November 04 2010 23:52 GMT
#11
Do:
- Last hit. This is where your early game gold comes from, and it's important to try to get as close to 100% of each creepwave as possible. Early game item advantages snowball into mid to late game dominance.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
November 05 2010 00:15 GMT
#12
On November 05 2010 07:28 Darkchylde wrote:
Shouldn't that be a "Don't"? There is far more valuable information on TL than on leaguecraft and my initial impression is that 90% of guides on leaguecraft / mobafire are not very good. Though this new forum kinda masks how much information there actually is.


No because people can actually rate and review guides there so u can sort out the good ones, on TL theres no way of actually knowing if the guy creating the guide knows wtf hes talking about since theres no voting/review system in place.
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 05 2010 00:17 GMT
#13
They're reviewed and rated by other idiots, sometimes you'll see some good guides rated lowly.

*shrugs*
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TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
November 05 2010 00:33 GMT
#14
On November 05 2010 09:15 Senx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2010 07:28 Darkchylde wrote:
Shouldn't that be a "Don't"? There is far more valuable information on TL than on leaguecraft and my initial impression is that 90% of guides on leaguecraft / mobafire are not very good. Though this new forum kinda masks how much information there actually is.


No because people can actually rate and review guides there so u can sort out the good ones, on TL theres no way of actually knowing if the guy creating the guide knows wtf hes talking about since theres no voting/review system in place.


Sure there is, look at the Kass thread.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
November 05 2010 01:28 GMT
#15
Oh wow, when was this subforum created? This is nice.

Do: Play > Tutorial > Battle Training. It's play experience against bots, riddled with useful tips throughout the entire match, should be useful to new players.

Also, regarding Senx's comment: Champion guides are useful if you're new and have no idea how to build a champion, but eventually you stop reading them altogether. A few hundred games on your shoulders, and most of the guides you read on pages like leaguecraft or the leagueoflegends.com forums will make you /facepalm, because:

a) They're outdated, and
b) 80% of the builds listed weren't even all that good back when the guide was still new and fresh.

If you want a better source of info, ask here in the TL forums. There are some good players here, and if you can get a hold of one who plays your champion, you'll not only get good tips on what masteries / runes / summoner spells / item builds to use, but chances are you can get some other champion-specific tips.
Go here http://vina.biobiochile.cl/ and input the Konami Code (up up down down left right left right B A)
sixduck
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States301 Posts
November 05 2010 09:00 GMT
#16
Add new Konami code to OP
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
November 05 2010 09:56 GMT
#17
On November 05 2010 09:15 Senx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2010 07:28 Darkchylde wrote:
Shouldn't that be a "Don't"? There is far more valuable information on TL than on leaguecraft and my initial impression is that 90% of guides on leaguecraft / mobafire are not very good. Though this new forum kinda masks how much information there actually is.


No because people can actually rate and review guides there so u can sort out the good ones, on TL theres no way of actually knowing if the guy creating the guide knows wtf hes talking about since theres no voting/review system in place.

I guarantee that you will figure out within the first 5 posts whether or not the guide is worth anything at all.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
November 05 2010 14:25 GMT
#18
On November 05 2010 18:00 sixduck wrote:
Add new Konami code to OP


I hesitate to do this because Riot insinuated they were going to ban for players being on when they shouldn't; otherwise when trying to go from busy to available they can just F5.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
November 05 2010 15:33 GMT
#19
Don't put Konami code in somewhere public. If someone wants to know, just PM.
Putting something like that in a sticky post OP is just begging for trouble.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Yiruru
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada690 Posts
November 05 2010 16:07 GMT
#20
Add Warding Guide ?? http://b.imagehost.org/0169/wards.jpg

Learn how to Last hit at Towers:
(In General)
-2 Tower Hits + Hit = Melee Creeps on most heroes, might need 2 hits on Champions with Low AD
-Tower Hit + 2 Hits = Ranged Creep

You WILL end up at least +100 gold from doing this, most likely more =[
Wrist every time someone randomly hits a creep and the tower gets it right after.

Watching the map should also be in the Do list.

For the people with no map awareness, here is Yiruru's guide to improving it.
(This is so I don't end up with NeoIllusions baddis that die after 4 people walk past two wards to gank them.
1) Download BW
2) Get on ICCUP
3) Host a game called "D- ZvP No DTs"
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