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crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
September 15 2011 20:31 GMT
#681
On September 16 2011 05:25 wei2coolman wrote:
on another another note. Riven's q reminds me of marth's (super smash bros brawl and melee) side+b move. Anyone else thought that?

Considering that Xepherous said that that was the inspiration for Riven's Q....
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SafeWord
Profile Joined February 2010
United States522 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 20:40:47
September 15 2011 20:36 GMT
#682
Love riven so far, she kinda has a hard time solo top, w/o any sustain. My builds so far are;

Starting : boots and 3 hp pots or doran shield
cd boots
ghostblade
hexdrinker (if needed) or another defensive item
frozen mallet
atmas
bloodthrister or black cleaver

Lemme know if this worked for anyone else.

Edit: Wriggles is sexy on her!
Who needs players when you have God?
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 15 2011 20:37 GMT
#683
post patch i've noticed my boxes are even easier to get out of range than they were before. They should have an attack range higher than their trigger range.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 15 2011 20:43 GMT
#684
On September 16 2011 05:08 HazMat wrote:
So many things broken this patch.
Tab screen scales with HUD. Need to change game files for it to be readable for people with smaller hud ui.
Game doesn't announce fb (not sure if it still gives first blood gold?)
Game doesn't announce killing sprees.
I think game doesn't announce multikills? Not sure.

Also, ranked stats for S2 don't show up unless you click on season1 and click back to season2.
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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
September 15 2011 20:50 GMT
#685
On September 16 2011 05:37 Caller wrote:
post patch i've noticed my boxes are even easier to get out of range than they were before. They should have an attack range higher than their trigger range.



at least they shoot the jungle creeps they are supposed to now.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 15 2011 20:52 GMT
#686
On September 16 2011 05:08 HazMat wrote:
So many things broken this patch.
Tab screen scales with HUD. Need to change game files for it to be readable for people with smaller hud ui.
Game doesn't announce fb (not sure if it still gives first blood gold?)
Game doesn't announce killing sprees.
I think game doesn't announce multikills? Not sure.


The game is announcing multikills.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 15 2011 20:56 GMT
#687
On September 16 2011 05:37 Caller wrote:
post patch i've noticed my boxes are even easier to get out of range than they were before. They should have an attack range higher than their trigger range.

Guinsoo confirmed this is broken....hold on I'll find it.
http://clgaming.net/redtracker/topic/14093/?p=6
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Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
September 15 2011 20:56 GMT
#688
On September 16 2011 05:11 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 05:09 Niton wrote:
On September 16 2011 05:03 Mogwai wrote:
well, yea, they nerfed his on minion shield generation by 40% + axed the E bonus, so yea, lol, he got raped in that regard, but I think it's probably getting blown out of proportion.


For a balance team whose normal changes are in the vein of 'reduced damage by 5-10' or 'changed damage range while retaining average damage per rank', Morde got fucking wrecked. You'd think he was dominatingly powerful compared to other OP champions with how much harder he got slammed.

Morde was pretty fucking nutty dude...


Yeah, but so was Orianna. Lee Sin and Singed might be better examples for the unkillability factor, but I'm very skeptical of Mordekaiser being that much more broken than any of the recently nerfed top tier champions. Hell, Singed just got a fairly significant buff.
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JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 21:00:19
September 15 2011 21:00 GMT
#689
On September 16 2011 05:08 HazMat wrote:
So many things broken this patch.
Tab screen scales with HUD. Need to change game files for it to be readable for people with smaller hud ui.

This is so annoying lol I can barely read the scoreboard now.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 15 2011 21:08 GMT
#690
On September 16 2011 05:56 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 05:11 Mogwai wrote:
On September 16 2011 05:09 Niton wrote:
On September 16 2011 05:03 Mogwai wrote:
well, yea, they nerfed his on minion shield generation by 40% + axed the E bonus, so yea, lol, he got raped in that regard, but I think it's probably getting blown out of proportion.


For a balance team whose normal changes are in the vein of 'reduced damage by 5-10' or 'changed damage range while retaining average damage per rank', Morde got fucking wrecked. You'd think he was dominatingly powerful compared to other OP champions with how much harder he got slammed.

Morde was pretty fucking nutty dude...


Yeah, but so was Orianna. Lee Sin and Singed might be better examples for the unkillability factor, but I'm very skeptical of Mordekaiser being that much more broken than any of the recently nerfed top tier champions. Hell, Singed just got a fairly significant buff.


Eh, as far as Singed goes, he's really not that "unkillabe" until later in the game. He's kinda tough without items, but he's not the unstoppable derp train until he's built.

Lee Sin is strong, maybe too strong. He's next in line for a nerf I feel, but they might have to bring him up elsewhere if they take out his sustain.

Morde.... wasn't bad for better players. Just don't engage him when you're low, and don't engage him near creeps where he could fill up his shield. He was unharassable early game, but didn't really have way too much damage at that point so it wasn't a problem. Now, he's very harassable, but still snowballs pretty well if you're good with him.

What do I know, though, I don't really play him :\ Friend mains him, he's not too concerned.
It's your boy Guzma!
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
September 15 2011 21:09 GMT
#691
On September 16 2011 05:56 Niton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 05:11 Mogwai wrote:
On September 16 2011 05:09 Niton wrote:
On September 16 2011 05:03 Mogwai wrote:
well, yea, they nerfed his on minion shield generation by 40% + axed the E bonus, so yea, lol, he got raped in that regard, but I think it's probably getting blown out of proportion.


For a balance team whose normal changes are in the vein of 'reduced damage by 5-10' or 'changed damage range while retaining average damage per rank', Morde got fucking wrecked. You'd think he was dominatingly powerful compared to other OP champions with how much harder he got slammed.

Morde was pretty fucking nutty dude...


Yeah, but so was Orianna. Lee Sin and Singed might be better examples for the unkillability factor, but I'm very skeptical of Mordekaiser being that much more broken than any of the recently nerfed top tier champions. Hell, Singed just got a fairly significant buff.


I'm pretty sure Lee Sin and Singed will both get nerfed next patch. Dunno how significant. As for Orianna, she's like crazy popular and people everywhere were crying out about how Riot sucks for nerfing her. I also think that Riot probably likes her uniqueness and wants her to stay viable so they're being careful not to over nerf.

Lots of people hate Morde. Even after the nerfs, last night one of my friends claimed that Morde is still bullshit and stupid OP and they should just remove him from the game. Pre-nerf I think that Morde's shield in lane just made most of the playerbase really annoyed and they felt like they just couldn't do anything to Morde in lane. Which is honestly kind of true, he was a bitch to lane against.

I think it has a lot more to do with making their fans happy as it does with balance.
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 21:11:19
September 15 2011 21:11 GMT
#692
On September 16 2011 05:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 05:37 Caller wrote:
post patch i've noticed my boxes are even easier to get out of range than they were before. They should have an attack range higher than their trigger range.

Guinsoo confirmed this is broken....hold on I'll find it.
http://clgaming.net/redtracker/topic/14093/?p=6

at least he is suggestion an overall range buff, that should be fun



Edit: Goodbye my marine friend
You can't milk those!
-Zoda-
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
France3578 Posts
September 15 2011 21:12 GMT
#693
On September 16 2011 06:00 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 05:08 HazMat wrote:
So many things broken this patch.
Tab screen scales with HUD. Need to change game files for it to be readable for people with smaller hud ui.

This is so annoying lol I can barely read the scoreboard now.

It was working fine before yeah, I don't understand this. X_x
♪ 最初はi つなぐdo それ つまりlife 常に移動 ♪ - IGN: Uhryks
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
September 15 2011 21:12 GMT
#694
On September 16 2011 05:08 HazMat wrote:
So many things broken this patch.
Tab screen scales with HUD. Need to change game files for it to be readable for people with smaller hud ui.
Game doesn't announce fb (not sure if it still gives first blood gold?)
Game doesn't announce killing sprees.
I think game doesn't announce multikills? Not sure.

Multikills are announced.

HUD can be rescaled. I wrote about it in my Tech Thread. It's the most recent update to that thread...
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Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-15 21:14:58
September 15 2011 21:14 GMT
#695
On September 16 2011 05:08 HazMat wrote:
So many things broken this patch.
Tab screen scales with HUD. Need to change game files for it to be readable for people with smaller hud ui.
Game doesn't announce fb (not sure if it still gives first blood gold?)
Game doesn't announce killing sprees.
I think game doesn't announce multikills? Not sure.

Dunno if it's the case but for me it always announces this stuff but in chat and it's reallly delayed
DrKlingmann
Profile Joined December 2010
Poland356 Posts
September 15 2011 21:15 GMT
#696
On September 16 2011 02:38 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 02:36 MoonBear wrote:
On September 16 2011 02:35 Caller wrote:
moonbear never reads my posts
how mean

I'm just about to go out so I was just quickly detailing 200 range jumps. Sometimes I don't have much to say either so I don't post. Ima read when I get back. Anything specific you want me to comment on?

why don't you guys hire me i design #numero uno fun champs

no but seriously i'd like to hear feedback on my ideas, if you guys had tried to implement them (and discovered that they sucked and here's why, etc.)
also i technically have a skin that i shouldn't have, what should i do about that?


Did you design Morde? :o
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
September 15 2011 21:26 GMT
#697
Wewt! After spending a buttload of time going through stores with magazines, i finally got PCGamer and the code worked
god damn, 2 barns and nobles sold out and a ton of magazine shops didnt even have it shipped yet and i found my magazine in a small shop in the subway lol
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
September 15 2011 22:10 GMT
#698
So, do you guys think Mordekaiser will still be a top pick? + Show Spoiler +
I see he was picked in CA vs Poland
(unsure of the LoL spoiler policy), but is the tourney client even up to date?
can i get my estro logo back pls
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 15 2011 22:12 GMT
#699
On September 16 2011 07:10 aRyuujin wrote:
So, do you guys think Mordekaiser will still be a top pick? + Show Spoiler +
I see he was picked in CA vs Poland
(unsure of the LoL spoiler policy), but is the tourney client even up to date?

Tourney client is usually a patch behind. I'm pretty sure the SB games are still played on Talon patch.

Morde is still a solid champ, but his laning is much much weaker now. Kinda like pre-nerf Vlad imo.
Niton
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2395 Posts
September 15 2011 22:16 GMT
#700
On September 16 2011 06:09 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 16 2011 05:56 Niton wrote:
On September 16 2011 05:11 Mogwai wrote:
On September 16 2011 05:09 Niton wrote:
On September 16 2011 05:03 Mogwai wrote:
well, yea, they nerfed his on minion shield generation by 40% + axed the E bonus, so yea, lol, he got raped in that regard, but I think it's probably getting blown out of proportion.


For a balance team whose normal changes are in the vein of 'reduced damage by 5-10' or 'changed damage range while retaining average damage per rank', Morde got fucking wrecked. You'd think he was dominatingly powerful compared to other OP champions with how much harder he got slammed.

Morde was pretty fucking nutty dude...


Yeah, but so was Orianna. Lee Sin and Singed might be better examples for the unkillability factor, but I'm very skeptical of Mordekaiser being that much more broken than any of the recently nerfed top tier champions. Hell, Singed just got a fairly significant buff.


I'm pretty sure Lee Sin and Singed will both get nerfed next patch. Dunno how significant.

...

I think it has a lot more to do with making their fans happy as it does with balance.


Yeah, I think Morde needed nerfs, I just think he needed less than what he got. I wasn't really expecting that large of a fundamental change, especially when other champions people consider 'problems' seem to come off with less.
tree.hugger: Coming off of [(T)fantasy v. (T)Really] into [(T)Barracks v. (T)MVP] is like coming out of Manhattan into New Jersey. You just have to speed up and ignore it.
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