[Patch 1.0.0.125: Riven] General Discussion - Page 140

On September 27 2011 07:07 Two_DoWn wrote:
Imagine how much easier it would be to jungle if madreds procs were standardized to "procs every third hit"

On September 27 2011 06:55 JackDino wrote:
Does anyone have any thoughts/experience on kassadin vs brand? Just played kassa and I failed miserably lvl 2-6.

On September 27 2011 07:10 BlackPaladin wrote:


Would technically be a buff considering it's only a 15% chance now and that would make it a "33% chance."

Every jungle creep takes more than 2 hits to kill meaning every single creep would take at least 1 madreds prov if that was the case.

On September 27 2011 07:10 BlackPaladin wrote:
Would technically be a buff considering it's only a 15% chance now and that would make it a "33% chance."

On September 27 2011 07:23 TheYango wrote:

Even if it was the same % of Madred's procs, it would be a buff because being able to control when your Madred proc is means you can swap to hitting a full HP creep when you're going to have a Madred's proc.

On September 27 2011 07:31 UniversalSnip wrote:
is it somehow a bad thing if madreds gets immeasurably buffed?

On September 27 2011 07:32 TheYango wrote:

Considering that MoonBear said something about Riot already considering Wriggle's still too good? Probably.

On September 27 2011 07:38 crate wrote:
I think it'd be a pretty significant buff. Not only do you speed up jungling and make it slightly better in lane, you make early dragons predictable ... and easier, since you can start with the proc charged.

On September 27 2011 07:51 TheYango wrote:

It would make doing Dragon/Baron riskier, because if the enemy jungle charges their Wriggle's proc beforehand, you can't outsmite charged Wriggles+Smite.

On September 27 2011 03:35 Southlight wrote:
No idea, but then again no one who legitimately wants to get better ever (to my knowledge) took up for instance Numbers' challenge to 1v1 him 100 straight times.

On September 27 2011 08:04 Seuss wrote:
A possible method of balancing Wriggle's would be to remove the Life Steal and the proc and replace them with a special jungle-only on-hit which did 75 magic damage every hit and healed you for 25%-30% of that amount.

This obviously would constitute a nerf both for laning and for jungling. For junglers the big issues would be the lack of scalability (Life Steal scales with damage, this proc would not) and the decreased teamfight survivability (no more Life Steal). It's a severe enough nerf that a lot of junglers might forgo the item entirely, so I don't know if it's a viable one.

Such a change might be OBE if and when the jungle revamp arrives, but I don't expect that until sometime after the stealth rework.