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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 27 2011 01:15 GMT
#2821
On September 27 2011 10:04 tyCe wrote:
What do people feel about Jax's power curve? Should it be made flatter? I kinda feel that he snowballs too hard for LoL's current state. There are counters to him like SotD but no other champion comes close to his strength with full item builds. Is the passive broken? Is his ulti broken? I know many people like the fact that there are different power curves among LoL champs but is Jax too far of an outlier? Thoughts?

I like his power curve tbh. One thing I don't like about LoL is the fact that Riot seems to be homogenizing power curves, which is boring. I want there to be champs that dominate early, but taper off hard. I want there to be champs that suck early, but once farmed are insane. It makes for more interesting gameplay imo
arnath
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1317 Posts
September 27 2011 01:19 GMT
#2822
Is the next patch this week or next?
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 27 2011 01:20 GMT
#2823
Solo top rammus
jungle riven
zilean mid
AP shaco + blitz bot

[image loading]

I am still speechless to us winning.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
WreakHavoc
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
40 Posts
September 27 2011 01:30 GMT
#2824
Rawrzr solo-top Rammus too strong.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 01:35:01
September 27 2011 01:33 GMT
#2825
For all those interested in the amazing solotop rammus and how to beat irelias here is my miniguide.

9/21/0
mpen red, flat armor yellow, ap/lvl blue, flat AP quints

Cloth 5 pots -> hog -> boots -> chainmail -> boots 2 -> Omen (Thornmail) -> Sunfire -> 2x negatron or 1x negatron + GA

Priority
R > E > W > Q

Levels 1-4 WEQE

Objectives:
Have 400+ Armor (not including W) by end of game.
Use only W to clear creep waves.
Have 180+ AD from your passive.

EDIT:
In hindsight you could change our your blues and quints to something more conservative, but fuck it you are fucking solo-top rammus not some pussy ass irelia with teleport.
FADC
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 01:36:37
September 27 2011 01:34 GMT
#2826
On September 27 2011 10:30 WreakHavoc wrote:
Rawrzr solo-top Rammus too strong.

Okay.




Edit: It's interesting refreshing every 30 seconds and watch rawrzr's post change over and over with edits
You can't milk those!
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
September 27 2011 01:36 GMT
#2827
Watching TSM scrimming with CLG and Xpecial is running support Ashe. Really weird shit going on.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
September 27 2011 01:39 GMT
#2828
When you reach my level everything you post is a work of art in progress. Instead of reposting my guide shamelessly I edit it to perfection for the world to see.

+ Show Spoiler +
For all those interested in the amazing solotop rammus and how to beat irelias here is my miniguide.

9/21/0
mpen red, flat armor yellow, ap/lvl blue, flat AP quints

Cloth 5 pots -> hog -> boots -> chainmail -> boots 2 -> Omen (Thornmail) -> Sunfire -> 2x negatron or 1x negatron + GA

Priority
R > E > W > Q

Levels 1-4 WEQE

Objectives:
Have 400+ Armor (not including W) by end of game.
Use only W to clear creep waves.
Have 180+ AD from your passive.

EDIT:
In hindsight you could change our your blues and quints to something more conservative, but fuck it you are fucking solo-top rammus not some pussy ass irelia with teleport.
FADC
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
September 27 2011 01:41 GMT
#2829
On September 27 2011 10:36 JBright wrote:
Watching TSM scrimming with CLG and Xpecial is running support Ashe. Really weird shit going on.

Chaox once saw someone troll Support Ashe in ranked before a dodge. He then suddenly had a brainwave and thought that was amazing and kept insisting TSM try it.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 27 2011 01:45 GMT
#2830
i run almost anyone with utility spells as support now that heals are nerfed... i like lux, cho, ashe, kennen, leona
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
September 27 2011 01:51 GMT
#2831
On September 27 2011 02:57 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 02:55 Southlight wrote:
On September 27 2011 02:52 Brees wrote:
haha thats probably why people lose lanes to people like jiji and stuff they overestimate them so much and play pussy. I've laned vs jiji before and let me tell you he isn't some magician or anything. this game is fairly basic.

edit- dont think ive won with jiji on my team either. like 0-3 zz.


Hahah, the old TL ranked 5 team had hell against CLG, because they'd make it look so close, but in reality their whole team was just ahead on farm. So fucking hard to stop Jiji/HSGG from farming. It doesn't look like a lost lane but it's a lost lane, just marginally, and that marginally is enough to tilt the game too heavily in their favor :p

and yet we always felt better after losses to CLG than we did after losses to what would now be considered Rock Solid or w/e the fuck they are these days. fucking L0CUST would end the game by 10 minutes vs. us, every time, without fail.
my team beat CLG in season 1 =D

my team got wrecked by L0CUST's team D=
[formerly sponsored by the artist formerly known as Gene]
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
September 27 2011 01:53 GMT
#2832
hotshot real troll call. Baron at half HP, other team no arrow 2 of them no flash and split

Hotshot tells team to back; they get caugh, and now about to lose game. CLG needs to listen to Chauster and Saint.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
September 27 2011 01:57 GMT
#2833
lol saint is so mad at hotshot
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 01:59:22
September 27 2011 01:59 GMT
#2834
I would be too. Can' t trust your own teammates for calls? Not a good situation.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
September 27 2011 02:01 GMT
#2835
Hotshot is being retarded rofl. "Why'd you guys listen to me?"
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
September 27 2011 02:02 GMT
#2836
I think they're blaming hotshot way too hard, but hotshot really should have just owned up to it instead of dragging this out for so long.
OreoBoi
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada1639 Posts
September 27 2011 02:03 GMT
#2837
Well I mean it's a team of big egos it's gonna happen. I also don't think any of them are capable of being a leader.
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
September 27 2011 02:06 GMT
#2838
On September 27 2011 10:51 redtooth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 02:57 Mogwai wrote:
On September 27 2011 02:55 Southlight wrote:
On September 27 2011 02:52 Brees wrote:
haha thats probably why people lose lanes to people like jiji and stuff they overestimate them so much and play pussy. I've laned vs jiji before and let me tell you he isn't some magician or anything. this game is fairly basic.

edit- dont think ive won with jiji on my team either. like 0-3 zz.


Hahah, the old TL ranked 5 team had hell against CLG, because they'd make it look so close, but in reality their whole team was just ahead on farm. So fucking hard to stop Jiji/HSGG from farming. It doesn't look like a lost lane but it's a lost lane, just marginally, and that marginally is enough to tilt the game too heavily in their favor :p

and yet we always felt better after losses to CLG than we did after losses to what would now be considered Rock Solid or w/e the fuck they are these days. fucking L0CUST would end the game by 10 minutes vs. us, every time, without fail.
my team beat CLG in season 1 =D

my team got wrecked by L0CUST's team D=

We lost both lol. Though it always felt like we lost harder to L0CUST cause they would just be untouchable in lane then buy oracles first back and cover the whole map with wards..and at the time even their squishy champs rushed RoA so it felt like midgame they were all tanks..CLG beat us but as Utah said it was more subtle(probably just cause we didn't pay enough attention to CS back then idk) because they wouldn't seem like they were stomping us in lane but then they would end up with all their big ticket items first
You can't milk those!
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
September 27 2011 02:06 GMT
#2839
On September 27 2011 10:15 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 10:04 tyCe wrote:
What do people feel about Jax's power curve? Should it be made flatter? I kinda feel that he snowballs too hard for LoL's current state. There are counters to him like SotD but no other champion comes close to his strength with full item builds. Is the passive broken? Is his ulti broken? I know many people like the fact that there are different power curves among LoL champs but is Jax too far of an outlier? Thoughts?

I like his power curve tbh. One thing I don't like about LoL is the fact that Riot seems to be homogenizing power curves, which is boring. I want there to be champs that dominate early, but taper off hard. I want there to be champs that suck early, but once farmed are insane. It makes for more interesting gameplay imo

What if it gets to the point where Jax can pretty much 1v5? Doesn't the game seem like a forgone conclusion by then? Even if the other team deserves it, well it's not exciting once it gets to that stage is it?
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
September 27 2011 02:07 GMT
#2840
I finally found all the touhou references in this game:

Wriggle Lantern - Wriggle Nightbug
Youmuu's Ghostblade - Youmuu
Lux - Final Spark
- A skin also looks like marisa
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