EPT[Patch 1.0.0.124: Talon] General Discussion - Page 118
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locodoco
Korea (South)1615 Posts
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Craton
United States17243 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On September 03 2011 18:08 Craton wrote: 'cause half a dozen champs do what he does better. List the champs and what they do better. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
The correct answer is: V1.0.0.120: Null Zone: Base damage reduced to 4/5/6/7/8% of the enemy's max health from 5/6/7/8/9%. Ability power ratio reduced to 1% per 100 ability power (0.01) from 1% per 80 ability power (0.0125). Cooldown reduced to 14 from 16. Nether Grasp: ability power ratio over the duration reduced to 1.3 from 1.5. Was enough to make him from permaban to not used at all. I mean, you can't play a champion who get's nerfed. He has to be bad now, right? (; (Honest answer is probably a mix between the above, Orianna coming out, people learning how to play Brand and the rediscovery of Morgana. Aka, people in LoL are sheep. That's all.) | ||
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Slayer91
Ireland23335 Posts
As for the baron vs inhibitor, anyone who would argue it is going to be really bad at solo queue. IT DOESNT MATTER IF BARON IS BETTER OR INHIB IS BETTER, YOU WILL WIN THE GAME WITH EITHER AND GET THE OTHER ONE WITH EITHER BUT ARGUING ABOUT IT WILL PROBABLY LOSE THE GAME. I'm really sick of people complaining about solo queuers making the wrong decision or making an arguable decision because the people complaining are usually 1400 and sometimes the solo queuers aren't wrong but they think they know everything and are just stuck in elo hell are whatever. It's a team game. Instead of thinking constantly about what everyone SHOULD be doing, look at what your team is doing now and then think of what YOU should be doing. Because if you make the "right decision" but your team is making some other one its still a terrible idea to try to do yours or try to argue. 5 People doing something sub optimal will still win games in solo queue/ If your team doesn't know what to do then thats when you take initiaive and tell them to all go do SOMETHING. doesn't matter what even if its just "don't go into the jungle". If your team does for the love of god do your best to help them and don't make any mistakes your self. Any time your teammate makes a mistake trace it back to when you made a mistake that resulted in his move being a mistake. (Unless are was just getting caught or something but that happens to everybody). People always go on about players in arranged teams feeling synergy with each other. I feel synergy with random solo queuers all the time. I have an idea of what they're going to do, watch what they do and act accordingly You all focus way too much on the team playing perfect and not enough on you playing perfect. It gets better. If 5 people like that get into the same arranged team the vent becomes a mess and everyone just calls out something different. So until you're good enough to become a team leader you should almost NEVER Think about what you should be doing because the higher you gain in elo the more thorough your understanding of the game will be anyway that you won't have to think about what the team should be doing. ./rant | ||
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Craton
United States17243 Posts
Any of the strong ap mids right now do a better job at blowing the enemy team up and doing so safely. Malz's "role" was the anti-tank, but with how heavily w and r got nerfed, there isn't much gain over malz comboing a tank versus any other ap doing the same amount of damage with their combo. Feel free to check my ranked stats with Malz. He's below average. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
On September 03 2011 19:45 Slayer91 wrote: You guys don't seem to get it. MF isn't used much vs double bruiser comps but she is THE best anti kite team ranged carry in the game. Kite teams rely on killing the front line while running back, MF's extremly high DPS and movement speed means it gets shut down. As for the baron vs inhibitor, anyone who would argue it is going to be really bad at solo queue. IT DOESNT MATTER IF BARON IS BETTER OR INHIB IS BETTER, YOU WILL WIN THE GAME WITH EITHER AND GET THE OTHER ONE WITH EITHER BUT ARGUING ABOUT IT WILL PROBABLY LOSE THE GAME. I'm really sick of people complaining about solo queuers making the wrong decision or making an arguable decision because the people complaining are usually 1400 and sometimes the solo queuers aren't wrong but they think they know everything and are just stuck in elo hell are whatever. It's a team game. Instead of thinking constantly about what everyone SHOULD be doing, look at what your team is doing now and then think of what YOU should be doing. Because if you make the "right decision" but your team is making some other one its still a terrible idea to try to do yours or try to argue. 5 People doing something sub optimal will still win games in solo queue/ If your team doesn't know what to do then thats when you take initiaive and tell them to all go do SOMETHING. doesn't matter what even if its just "don't go into the jungle". If your team does for the love of god do your best to help them and don't make any mistakes your self. Any time your teammate makes a mistake trace it back to when you made a mistake that resulted in his move being a mistake. (Unless are was just getting caught or something but that happens to everybody). People always go on about players in arranged teams feeling synergy with each other. I feel synergy with random solo queuers all the time. I have an idea of what they're going to do, watch what they do and act accordingly You all focus way too much on the team playing perfect and not enough on you playing perfect. It gets better. If 5 people like that get into the same arranged team the vent becomes a mess and everyone just calls out something different. So until you're good enough to become a team leader you should almost NEVER Think about what you should be doing because the higher you gain in elo the more thorough your understanding of the game will be anyway that you won't have to think about what the team should be doing. ./rant This is pretty much exactly the same as my post earlier, just in the form of a rant. =P | ||
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Shiv.
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Southlight
United States11766 Posts
Malz is ridiculous because of his poke. I've long maintained that his ult could do 0 damage and he'd still be really annoying to play against after the 20-25 minute mark. The ult simply helps leading up to that point. | ||
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
On September 03 2011 19:50 Craton wrote: Any of the strong ap mids right now do a better job at blowing the enemy team up and doing so safely. Malz's "role" was the anti-tank, but with how heavily w and r got nerfed, there isn't much gain over malz comboing a tank versus any other ap doing the same amount of damage with their combo. Feel free to check my ranked stats with Malz. He's below average. feel free to check my ranked stats with malz too. He hasn't given me a free 90+% winrate for nothing | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On September 03 2011 20:12 Southlight wrote: Actually Inhib is definitively better than Baron, because Inhib applies passive pressure, while Baron can be stifled, especially if a teamcomp is well suited for defense. If your team is well suited for pushing and potentially diving, then Baron can definitely be better: You take it, heal and pot up, and finish the game. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On September 03 2011 16:52 JackDino wrote: Since it has a poster and a special post and all, reverse annie might be a legendary, no? I think I said so on NA last night, but Reverse Annie will be 975 afaik. Urf Rider Corki was 975 and they went with a video, new sounds and animations so it's not unheard of. On September 03 2011 16:59 sRapers_ValkS wrote: Having trouble keeping up with this thread but has this been discussed?: http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=1185192 Looks like Season 1 ends and Dominion comes out on the 6th, and Mac client is going then too. I really wish they would just disable dominion on mac client if it won't run rather than shutting it down completely. My client has been great on Summoner's Rift and I don't give that big a damn about Dominion. t.ttttttt gonna have to buy windows 7 and dual boot or something if I want to play this game at all anymore. =[ There has been a lot of discussion about the Mac Client ending. Boomjpe is kinda upset about it. I can't comment any further on this issue though. Do be aware you have the option of a complete RP refund if you wish. However, that does mean that if/when a full Mac Client comes out in the future you might have to start from scratch. You don't have to dual-boot though. Using BootCamp or other similar software (e.g. VMWare, Wine, etc.) should still let you play. If you have any questions, do give me a shout and I can see what I can do for you. | ||
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Craton
United States17243 Posts
On September 03 2011 20:16 StuffedTurkey wrote: feel free to check my ranked stats with malz too. He hasn't given me a free 90+% winrate for nothing The point is that Malz used to be great and a bit too strong. Now he's just outclassed by a lot of other AP champs. He can still win (aka not trash tier), but there's no reason to pick Malz over the many other AP carries. | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
QQ. =( (btw, anyone have any idea how to play 3n3s properly? I have like no idea, trollol) | ||
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
On September 03 2011 20:37 Craton wrote: The point is that Malz used to be great and a bit too strong. Now he's just outclassed by a lot of other AP champs. He can still win (aka not trash tier), but there's no reason to pick Malz over the many other AP carries. The point is saying he is below average based on your ranked stats isn't a valid argument, i have crappy stats with nasus atm and hes doing pretty well. | ||
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Craton
United States17243 Posts
I said he was below average because he is. The fact that I play him often and do quite well with him does provide evidence that I'm not just talking out of my ass about a champ I'm unfamiliar with. | ||
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Tisp
Canada209 Posts
Pwese? On a relevant topic note, thanks for reminding me Lee Sin was free. I tried him out last night. My first game was absolutely brutal. I started at top golems so I could gank top lane. Top lane was Nidalee and MF vs our MF. I had Nidalee to 1 hit but she had Heal Summoner so I didn't get the kill. I made it into bushes safely but since our MF needed to b, I started walking to the tower. Didn't pay attention to my pathing so I ran into their MF. Meanwhile at this point, our Xin Zhao is on his way to 0-3 bottom. Long story short, I end up going something like 2-13-6. We win because I build super tanky and our MF had 400 cs. I kept forgetting my w makes me run to my allies, instead I just kept doing alt+w. I played 2 games against AI today as LS and I just absolutely love the way he plays. He can be so stupidly powerful. I can't wait to get home today and try him out some more. As long as I remember all of his skills, I should be alright. I do have a question about the attack order of his abilities though. At level 1, I get E and open at golems. Should I be waiting 2 auto attacks before I use cripple to maximize the AS buff? Also once I get level 3 and have all of my abilities, what is the order I should use them in and should I again be trying to maximize AS buff? I will usally Q through the trees at the mob, Q again to teleport then alt+w, w, e, wait 2 seconds, e then rinse+repeat. Thanks TL  I love you. | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14080 Posts
Mine is like lvl 5 and I just can't get myself to level it up. Edit: PM would be cool if anyone is interested. The "not being used" part is kinda important, I guess. Can just randomly log on there then from time to time. :S Edit 2: If anyone has an account around like RIGHT NAOW for a few hours I'd be gratefull forever. :D | ||
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Attakijing
United States693 Posts
On September 03 2011 21:40 r.Evo wrote: hurrdurr, anyone here got a lvl 30 us account hes not using? Kinda looking for one to smurf when EU fails and to get in some games with US people. Side effect would be you keeping all the IP & you gaining elo on that account for sure as long as it's below 1500. Mine is like lvl 5 and I just can't get myself to level it up. Edit: PM would be cool if anyone is interested. The "not being used" part is kinda important, I guess. Can just randomly log on there then from time to time. :S Edit 2: If anyone has an account around like RIGHT NAOW for a few hours I'd be gratefull forever. :D i just moved to germany from the US and i'm staying here for a year. do you want my account for that time? | ||
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