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On September 03 2011 13:08 Juicyfruit wrote: MF is strong as hell >.>
idk. she used to be my main ad carry, but i just brought her back up after not using her in a while. she felt really underwhelming compared to pretty much everyone else. except sivir obviously.
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End of ladder season is bringing out some serious trolls at low ELO. I picked Cho'gath because I felt we had enough AD between Ashe, Nasus, and Udyr and then I get everyone on my team objecting and spouting off different requests (one for a jungler when we already had one?). I can't even read them quickly enough, so I stick with Cho'gath and then one of them is like I'M GOING TO AFK (he doesn't).
Game starts and for some weird reason they have a two top setup, so I'm thinking great, easy game, free dragon and I get a relatively easy farm (it was against Leona and Sion lol). Then Malz requests a lane switch to top, and I'm like... okay, I don't know why you'd want that, but I can take Mordekaiser fine, so whatever. He dies within a minute, and the turret falls as quickly. He can't even defend the second turret, so I have to go back up having lost a decent amount of farm time. Bottom can't take advantage of free dragons (nor do they even get 1 kill against a solo Akali), and I die a few times because I have to extend pretty far to get any farm whatsoever (and they have Nocturne, bleh). I die twice (barely), and then the rest of the game is spent bickering as 3 of them relentlessly blame me for every single issue we have (why not q Nocturne off me!?!? I DID, IT HAS A WINDUP. Why are you missing all your skill shots when they ghost/flash out) even though it is pretty clear we have superior farm and we have the better composition on top of that. Game turns around during a fight in our base where I kill/assist killing 3 of them while low on health nearly the entire time.
We win, but pretty much right until their Nexus explodes people are still raging at me. I check their profiles and none of them had a ladder game prior to this game (based off their skill levels, I doubt they have smurfs). The one who claimed to main Cho'gath has one loss in his recent history in a normal game, 3/3/6, when I went 9/6/21 taking the brunt of the abuse, especially early since my ult stacks were so messed up. Sigh.
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Woot, finally looks like we'll see a female bruiser type. Hasn't been one yet except for, you know, Poppy. However, I see Poppy as a female in the same way as I see female Gnomes in WoW as female: I don't.
I guess Kayle kind of is, but she hasn't really been seen lately and is more support anymore.
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On September 03 2011 14:00 Requizen wrote:Woot, finally looks like we'll see a female bruiser type. Hasn't been one yet except for, you know, Poppy. However, I see Poppy as a female in the same way as I see female Gnomes in WoW as female: I don't. I guess Kayle kind of is, but she hasn't really been seen lately and is more support anymore.
Irelia says hello.
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Except I'm pretty sure its a guy because I saw a riot post referring to the new champion as a 'he' lol
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Irelia says hello.
Bah, she'll always be an assassin to me.
Except I'm pretty sure its a guy because I saw a riot post referring to the new champion as a 'he' lol
The actual spotlight thing says she. And it's a pretty feminine haircut, unless we're getting another Ez.
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On September 03 2011 14:19 Requizen wrote: unless we're getting another Ez.
But then how will Taric ever choose??
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is lee sin supposed to jungle
is udyr supposed to jungle
is gp supposed to jungle
or would they all be better off top lane
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On September 03 2011 12:23 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: What can MF do that Caitlyn cannot? It's more of a style preference I suppose, but the only thing MF has that Caityln doesn't have is an attack speed boost. I'd much rather have traps and 90 caliber net than impure shots and rain, and both of their ults are lackluster. Caitlyn's passive is also much stronger imo.
Maybe not if MF still had release Q damage, but I like Caitlyn's harass more.
I actually play MF, but I didnt mention her because the guy wanted to know about the strongest AD carries and I tried to give him an objective answer and I dont think MF suits there because A) I never saw her in tournaments and B) she has a unique playstile and a niche role.
You cant compare MF to Cait btw. Cait sits back and farms like a goddess while poking her opponents at occasions. Later in the game she does basicly the same thing during teamfights.
MF is much more of an aggressive laner. She can outdps most AD carries with impure shots and reduces healing. Laning as MF is much more about forcing alot of good trades in your favor. In Teamfights you look for a good angle and moment for your AoE ult and after that you start do AD-carry-like right click stuff that is near you. I think she is actually pretty good but I certainly dont recommend her to a beginner who wants to know what is hot shit atm because she certainly isnt. Not sure why though.
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Irelia says hello too.
Also, the new champion has Quel'Serrar.
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If you go atmogs, what is best then? FoN or banshee? Im kinda sticking with FoN as of now, since i find hp reg quite viable on tanky dps.
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MF can sit back and farm while poking people with Q bounces. That's how I play her at least, although I know some people prefer to max rain first and I'd assume you max her W first if you're going for "trades" to make use of impure shots.
She can outdps most AD Carries, but bottom lane is generally more of a free farming sort of dance. I could see a Janna MF lane maybe doing alright versus ashe soraka, but I don't know if the armor would kill your harassment or not.
I normally don't even bother getting MF's ult at level 6. I'd much rather have a second level in W to go along with my Q harass.
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On September 03 2011 14:31 shawster wrote: is lee sin supposed to jungle
is udyr supposed to jungle
is gp supposed to jungle
or would they all be better off top lane It depends on what you want. ATM udyr is better in lane IMO because there is still no really good way to shut down his farming abilities. Lee Sin on the other hand has a fast jungle and pretty good ganks, and therefore is generally set up well for the jungle.
GP should ALWAYS be in jungle. His ganks are just too strong to waste in top lane.
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On September 03 2011 14:53 Sponkz wrote: If you go atmogs, what is best then? FoN or banshee? Im kinda sticking with FoN as of now, since i find hp reg quite viable on tanky dps.
If you have Atmog's. FoN without a doubt.
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On September 03 2011 15:10 Two_DoWn wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 14:31 shawster wrote: is lee sin supposed to jungle
is udyr supposed to jungle
is gp supposed to jungle
or would they all be better off top lane It depends on what you want. ATM udyr is better in lane IMO because there is still no really good way to shut down his farming abilities. Lee Sin on the other hand has a fast jungle and pretty good ganks, and therefore is generally set up well for the jungle. GP should ALWAYS be in jungle. His ganks are just too strong to waste in top lane.
Udyr top is nerfed hard. I'm going to say he's Jungle only now. He can't sustain with the increased cost of stances.
GP LS are either or. Jungle GP E max first for faster paths and stronger ganks. Lane GP Q max first for lane dominance.
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I don't know about you but I feel that lee sin needs an early gank to get hit jungle going.
whereas GP can just farm to victory
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If you think about it, Heimer should be by far the strongest 3v3 champion out there. brb abusing heimer in 3s.
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