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Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
September 03 2011 04:11 GMT
#2301
On September 03 2011 13:08 Juicyfruit wrote:
MF is strong as hell >.>


idk. she used to be my main ad carry, but i just brought her back up after not using her in a while. she felt really underwhelming compared to pretty much everyone else. except sivir obviously.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 04:48:04
September 03 2011 04:46 GMT
#2302
End of ladder season is bringing out some serious trolls at low ELO. I picked Cho'gath because I felt we had enough AD between Ashe, Nasus, and Udyr and then I get everyone on my team objecting and spouting off different requests (one for a jungler when we already had one?). I can't even read them quickly enough, so I stick with Cho'gath and then one of them is like I'M GOING TO AFK (he doesn't).

Game starts and for some weird reason they have a two top setup, so I'm thinking great, easy game, free dragon and I get a relatively easy farm (it was against Leona and Sion lol). Then Malz requests a lane switch to top, and I'm like... okay, I don't know why you'd want that, but I can take Mordekaiser fine, so whatever. He dies within a minute, and the turret falls as quickly. He can't even defend the second turret, so I have to go back up having lost a decent amount of farm time. Bottom can't take advantage of free dragons (nor do they even get 1 kill against a solo Akali), and I die a few times because I have to extend pretty far to get any farm whatsoever (and they have Nocturne, bleh). I die twice (barely), and then the rest of the game is spent bickering as 3 of them relentlessly blame me for every single issue we have (why not q Nocturne off me!?!? I DID, IT HAS A WINDUP. Why are you missing all your skill shots when they ghost/flash out) even though it is pretty clear we have superior farm and we have the better composition on top of that. Game turns around during a fight in our base where I kill/assist killing 3 of them while low on health nearly the entire time.

We win, but pretty much right until their Nexus explodes people are still raging at me. I check their profiles and none of them had a ladder game prior to this game (based off their skill levels, I doubt they have smurfs). The one who claimed to main Cho'gath has one loss in his recent history in a normal game, 3/3/6, when I went 9/6/21 taking the brunt of the abuse, especially early since my ult stacks were so messed up. Sigh.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 03 2011 05:00 GMT
#2303
On September 03 2011 12:04 hoppipolla wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/champion-sneak-peek-riven-exile
The emo swordswoman?


Woot, finally looks like we'll see a female bruiser type. Hasn't been one yet except for, you know, Poppy. However, I see Poppy as a female in the same way as I see female Gnomes in WoW as female: I don't.

I guess Kayle kind of is, but she hasn't really been seen lately and is more support anymore.
It's your boy Guzma!
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 03 2011 05:02 GMT
#2304
On September 03 2011 14:00 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 12:04 hoppipolla wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/champion-sneak-peek-riven-exile
The emo swordswoman?


Woot, finally looks like we'll see a female bruiser type. Hasn't been one yet except for, you know, Poppy. However, I see Poppy as a female in the same way as I see female Gnomes in WoW as female: I don't.

I guess Kayle kind of is, but she hasn't really been seen lately and is more support anymore.


Irelia says hello.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
September 03 2011 05:07 GMT
#2305
Soraka says greetings.
FADC
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
September 03 2011 05:16 GMT
#2306
Except I'm pretty sure its a guy because I saw a riot post referring to the new champion as a 'he' lol
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 03 2011 05:19 GMT
#2307
Irelia says hello.


Bah, she'll always be an assassin to me.

Except I'm pretty sure its a guy because I saw a riot post referring to the new champion as a 'he' lol


The actual spotlight thing says she. And it's a pretty feminine haircut, unless we're getting another Ez.
It's your boy Guzma!
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
September 03 2011 05:26 GMT
#2308
On September 03 2011 14:19 Requizen wrote:
unless we're getting another Ez.


But then how will Taric ever choose??
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
shawster
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada2485 Posts
September 03 2011 05:31 GMT
#2309
is lee sin supposed to jungle

is udyr supposed to jungle

is gp supposed to jungle

or would they all be better off top lane
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
September 03 2011 05:32 GMT
#2310
On September 03 2011 12:23 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
What can MF do that Caitlyn cannot? It's more of a style preference I suppose, but the only thing MF has that Caityln doesn't have is an attack speed boost. I'd much rather have traps and 90 caliber net than impure shots and rain, and both of their ults are lackluster. Caitlyn's passive is also much stronger imo.

Maybe not if MF still had release Q damage, but I like Caitlyn's harass more.


I actually play MF, but I didnt mention her because the guy wanted to know about the strongest AD carries and I tried to give him an objective answer and I dont think MF suits there because A) I never saw her in tournaments and B) she has a unique playstile and a niche role.

You cant compare MF to Cait btw. Cait sits back and farms like a goddess while poking her opponents at occasions. Later in the game she does basicly the same thing during teamfights.

MF is much more of an aggressive laner. She can outdps most AD carries with impure shots and reduces healing. Laning as MF is much more about forcing alot of good trades in your favor. In Teamfights you look for a good angle and moment for your AoE ult and after that you start do AD-carry-like right click stuff that is near you. I think she is actually pretty good but I certainly dont recommend her to a beginner who wants to know what is hot shit atm because she certainly isnt. Not sure why though.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
rigwarl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
September 03 2011 05:53 GMT
#2311
Irelia says hello too.

Also, the new champion has Quel'Serrar.
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
September 03 2011 05:53 GMT
#2312
If you go atmogs, what is best then? FoN or banshee? Im kinda sticking with FoN as of now, since i find hp reg quite viable on tanky dps.
hi
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 03 2011 05:55 GMT
#2313
MF can sit back and farm while poking people with Q bounces. That's how I play her at least, although I know some people prefer to max rain first and I'd assume you max her W first if you're going for "trades" to make use of impure shots.

She can outdps most AD Carries, but bottom lane is generally more of a free farming sort of dance. I could see a Janna MF lane maybe doing alright versus ashe soraka, but I don't know if the armor would kill your harassment or not.

I normally don't even bother getting MF's ult at level 6. I'd much rather have a second level in W to go along with my Q harass.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
rigwarl
Profile Joined January 2011
United States540 Posts
September 03 2011 05:55 GMT
#2314
Leona also says hi.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
September 03 2011 06:10 GMT
#2315
On September 03 2011 14:31 shawster wrote:
is lee sin supposed to jungle

is udyr supposed to jungle

is gp supposed to jungle

or would they all be better off top lane

It depends on what you want. ATM udyr is better in lane IMO because there is still no really good way to shut down his farming abilities. Lee Sin on the other hand has a fast jungle and pretty good ganks, and therefore is generally set up well for the jungle.

GP should ALWAYS be in jungle. His ganks are just too strong to waste in top lane.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 03 2011 06:17 GMT
#2316
On September 03 2011 14:53 Sponkz wrote:
If you go atmogs, what is best then? FoN or banshee? Im kinda sticking with FoN as of now, since i find hp reg quite viable on tanky dps.


If you have Atmog's. FoN without a doubt.
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
September 03 2011 06:18 GMT
#2317
Play ww everywhere.
FADC
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
September 03 2011 06:18 GMT
#2318
On September 03 2011 15:10 Two_DoWn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 14:31 shawster wrote:
is lee sin supposed to jungle

is udyr supposed to jungle

is gp supposed to jungle

or would they all be better off top lane

It depends on what you want. ATM udyr is better in lane IMO because there is still no really good way to shut down his farming abilities. Lee Sin on the other hand has a fast jungle and pretty good ganks, and therefore is generally set up well for the jungle.

GP should ALWAYS be in jungle. His ganks are just too strong to waste in top lane.


Udyr top is nerfed hard. I'm going to say he's Jungle only now. He can't sustain with the increased cost of stances.

GP LS are either or. Jungle GP E max first for faster paths and stronger ganks. Lane GP Q max first for lane dominance.
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
September 03 2011 06:23 GMT
#2319
I don't know about you but I feel that lee sin needs an early gank to get hit jungle going.

whereas GP can just farm to victory
FADC
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 03 2011 06:24 GMT
#2320
If you think about it, Heimer should be by far the strongest 3v3 champion out there. brb abusing heimer in 3s.
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