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WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 03 2011 02:52 GMT
#2281
How does Fiddle keep not getting interrupted by Alistar cc?
Is he just microseconds too late?

Or new 1.5s charge time OP?
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
September 03 2011 02:56 GMT
#2282
On September 03 2011 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
How does Fiddle keep not getting interrupted by Alistar cc?
Is he just microseconds too late?

Or new 1.5s charge time OP?


I've experienced the same thing so many times. Fiddle's ult basically isn't interruptable unless you're already sitting on top of him ever since the buffs made him op. I can't count the instances in which I've flashed in and headbutted, or soraka silenced, or blitz silenced, and the ult has gone off anyway.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
hoppipolla
Profile Joined January 2010
Australia782 Posts
September 03 2011 03:04 GMT
#2283
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/champion-sneak-peek-riven-exile
The emo swordswoman?
"It's not acceptable"
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
September 03 2011 03:06 GMT
#2284
On September 03 2011 11:48 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 11:27 barbsq wrote:
On September 03 2011 08:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 03 2011 08:26 MoonBear wrote:
On September 03 2011 08:13 Southlight wrote:
Moon, the one thing that your stuff doesn't really take into account IMO is that, mm, certain things are simply more effective at lower levels. This has nothing to do with either power area and more to do with the fact that people struggle to deal with certain things.
[...]

That is a good point. While that does partially come under vertical growth, a player's mindset and mechanical skill aren't quite fully captured. Learning how to juke skillshots is not necessarily vertical growth but still a good skill toi have.


Fixed.
(Sorry I had to!)
Also Moonbear, why are you not King of the Subforum yet?


you really havn't realized that bears are the master race?


Where do turkeys fit in on that list?

Also this Treeeeeskimo game.....just a slaughter.

You rang?
You can't milk those!
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 03:06:51
September 03 2011 03:06 GMT
#2285
FUCK YES. GOLD. I QUIT. I'M DONE WITH RANKED. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. OWIIOEGHRNGOAIGNOENHSTN YESSSSS <3
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 03:11:33
September 03 2011 03:09 GMT
#2286
On September 03 2011 11:52 esotericc wrote:
Whats a really strong AD hero to start learning, I want nocturne but don't have points (only 3k ip) I already know trist inside and out. Want one that has the potential to demolish people. Been maining annie but the higher I get the more they learn to focus her and I don't think AP is for me.

Prefer ranged


I think Ashe is most solid AD carry. She is very consistent because of her massive utility skillset but deals the least damage from all the carries. Vayne and Kog are probably the ones with the best dps but I consider them hardcarries = very farm dependand and hard to catch up from a bad start but they snowball insanely with level and farm and can shred farmed tanks in seconds if so. Caitlyn is known for her solid laneing phase and good lategame damage output because of her steroid and range. She is the easiest to get farmed not only because of her laneing but also because of her KS ult. Urgot is very underplayed but if mastered probably the scariest (not even considering his looks). His laneing is superb from all the champs i menioned before and is somewhat of a counterpick for bot lanes that include taric/alistar which both are very common. The thing with urgot is that not only his damage output is insane but also his Q range (the spammy skillshot) and he is tanky on top that. You can even win alot of solo lanes with him if you get SoS and manamune.

Those are the AD carries that I consider the strongest right now.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 03 2011 03:11 GMT
#2287
RS running Heimer Soraka bot. I've been suggesting Heim/Soraka bot for a couple of weeks now. Shit's so op. Soraka can heal heimer turrets + give mana so you can't stop them from pushing your tower.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
September 03 2011 03:11 GMT
#2288
On September 03 2011 12:09 clickrush wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 11:52 esotericc wrote:
Whats a really strong AD hero to start learning, I want nocturne but don't have points (only 3k ip) I already know trist inside and out. Want one that has the potential to demolish people. Been maining annie but the higher I get the more they learn to focus her and I don't think AP is for me.

Prefer ranged


I think Ashe is most solid AD carry. She is very consistent because of her massive utility skillset but deals the least damage from all the carries. Vayne and Kog are probably the ones with the best dps but I consider them hardcarries = very farm dependand and hard to catch up from a bad start but they snowball insanely with level and farm and can shred farmed tanks in seconds if so. Caitlyn is known for her solid laneing phase and good lategame damage output because of her steroid and range. She is the easiest to get farmed not only because of her laneing but also because of her KS ult. Urgot is very underplayed but if mastered probably the scariest (not even considering his looks). His laneing is superb from all the champs i menioned before and is somewhat of a counterpick for bot lanes that include taric/alistar which both are very common. The thing with urgot is that not only his damage output is insane but also his Q range (the spammy skillshot) and he is tanky on top that. You can even win alot of solo lanes with him if you get SoS and manamune.

Those are the AD carries that I consider the strongest right now.


i love how mf isn't mentioned </3 what happened to her anyways
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
September 03 2011 03:20 GMT
#2289
atleast play MF this week and see how you like her. shes areally solid ad carry imo.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
September 03 2011 03:23 GMT
#2290
What can MF do that Caitlyn cannot? It's more of a style preference I suppose, but the only thing MF has that Caityln doesn't have is an attack speed boost. I'd much rather have traps and 90 caliber net than impure shots and rain, and both of their ults are lackluster. Caitlyn's passive is also much stronger imo.

Maybe not if MF still had release Q damage, but I like Caitlyn's harass more.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
September 03 2011 03:24 GMT
#2291
Scarra making people cry with AP Nasus on stream.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 03:29:11
September 03 2011 03:28 GMT
#2292
On September 03 2011 12:04 hoppipolla wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/champion-sneak-peek-riven-exile
The emo swordswoman?

WOO TOTAL MYST REFERENCE!

Sorry. I loved that series.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-03 03:34:47
September 03 2011 03:34 GMT
#2293
Corki, kennen, amumu, sona, brand
vs
morde garen gragas, taric, nocturne

lol Tree's team so strong.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
September 03 2011 03:37 GMT
#2294
wait is annie getting a legendary skin? wtff
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
September 03 2011 03:38 GMT
#2295
Pure range v pure melee is really hard for pure melee
But aoe countered by gragas
Interesting to see how it turns out
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
September 03 2011 03:48 GMT
#2296
On September 03 2011 12:11 goldenkrnboi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 12:09 clickrush wrote:
On September 03 2011 11:52 esotericc wrote:
Whats a really strong AD hero to start learning, I want nocturne but don't have points (only 3k ip) I already know trist inside and out. Want one that has the potential to demolish people. Been maining annie but the higher I get the more they learn to focus her and I don't think AP is for me.

Prefer ranged


I think Ashe is most solid AD carry. She is very consistent because of her massive utility skillset but deals the least damage from all the carries. Vayne and Kog are probably the ones with the best dps but I consider them hardcarries = very farm dependand and hard to catch up from a bad start but they snowball insanely with level and farm and can shred farmed tanks in seconds if so. Caitlyn is known for her solid laneing phase and good lategame damage output because of her steroid and range. She is the easiest to get farmed not only because of her laneing but also because of her KS ult. Urgot is very underplayed but if mastered probably the scariest (not even considering his looks). His laneing is superb from all the champs i menioned before and is somewhat of a counterpick for bot lanes that include taric/alistar which both are very common. The thing with urgot is that not only his damage output is insane but also his Q range (the spammy skillshot) and he is tanky on top that. You can even win alot of solo lanes with him if you get SoS and manamune.

Those are the AD carries that I consider the strongest right now.


i love how mf isn't mentioned </3 what happened to her anyways


Don't worry Mf and Trist can hang out together now.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
September 03 2011 04:01 GMT
#2297
On September 03 2011 12:37 Kenpachi wrote:
wait is annie getting a legendary skin? wtff

It'll be 975.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
September 03 2011 04:03 GMT
#2298
On September 03 2011 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote:
How does Fiddle keep not getting interrupted by Alistar cc?
Is he just microseconds too late?

Or new 1.5s charge time OP?

Certain interrupts don't stop things instantly like silences or stuns. It probably has to do with how the game applies certain effects. Alistar headbutt has a travel time from you to the target, plus it doesn't instantly stop some channels because it seems the game doesn't recognize certain movements outside of clicking. Gragas ult works the same way.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
September 03 2011 04:07 GMT
#2299
On September 03 2011 12:48 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 12:11 goldenkrnboi wrote:
On September 03 2011 12:09 clickrush wrote:
On September 03 2011 11:52 esotericc wrote:
Whats a really strong AD hero to start learning, I want nocturne but don't have points (only 3k ip) I already know trist inside and out. Want one that has the potential to demolish people. Been maining annie but the higher I get the more they learn to focus her and I don't think AP is for me.

Prefer ranged


I think Ashe is most solid AD carry. She is very consistent because of her massive utility skillset but deals the least damage from all the carries. Vayne and Kog are probably the ones with the best dps but I consider them hardcarries = very farm dependand and hard to catch up from a bad start but they snowball insanely with level and farm and can shred farmed tanks in seconds if so. Caitlyn is known for her solid laneing phase and good lategame damage output because of her steroid and range. She is the easiest to get farmed not only because of her laneing but also because of her KS ult. Urgot is very underplayed but if mastered probably the scariest (not even considering his looks). His laneing is superb from all the champs i menioned before and is somewhat of a counterpick for bot lanes that include taric/alistar which both are very common. The thing with urgot is that not only his damage output is insane but also his Q range (the spammy skillshot) and he is tanky on top that. You can even win alot of solo lanes with him if you get SoS and manamune.

Those are the AD carries that I consider the strongest right now.


i love how mf isn't mentioned </3 what happened to her anyways


Don't worry Mf and Trist can hang out together now.

Wut. MF and Sivir hang out together.

Corki and Trist hang out on the outskirts of teh cool AD carry kids club. Corki became a little more unpopular after all the nerfs, but he still has the strongest raw damage output lategame when farmed due to his imba passive and the fact that he can wield Triforce like a boss. Trist has probably one of the highest burst early game out of all the range AD carries and lategame with farm is just really strong due to his Q steroid and 700+ range.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
September 03 2011 04:08 GMT
#2300
MF is strong as hell >.>
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