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Why does every thread that mentions LoL NEED to turn into a LoL vs HoN vs Dota2 thread? Seriously, cut it out.

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chroniX
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
517 Posts
August 15 2011 14:00 GMT
#41
That is hilarious. Instead of throwing money in tournaments they should fix their game first. Its still not even close to a competetive game. the whole competetive environment in LoL is so bad...

And what does Riot do instad of fixing the main problem?

Invent a new game mode (dominion? noone wants that!) and throw money at people...Its bound to fail sooner or later!
PepperoniPiZZa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Sierra Leone1660 Posts
August 15 2011 14:01 GMT
#42
Their e-sport scene is pretty much set for a year now. This is insane, there are only like 10 good teams too. You can have a $300.000,00 cup each month and still have a $1.400.000,00 at the end of the year.
Or how about, 3 gigantic $1.000.000,00 cups and 10 $200.000,00 cups? The possibilities.
Quote?
Essbee
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Canada2371 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 14:02:09
August 15 2011 14:01 GMT
#43
lol at people speaking about graphics. If anything, League of legends has the type of graphics where you can see what's going on compared to HoN for example. Imo LoL graphics are the best for all the games of this style (and all the games for that matter).

Seriously graphics making a game? Brood war? StarCraft 2 on low? LoL? Quake and CS 1.6? These are not games with ground-breaking graphics and still are the most popular. Graphics are for kids (or teens), no offense but veteran gamers knows that graphics doesn't matter. It's all about the gameplay. I seriously never played a bad game and pretend to have fun just because of the graphics. Sorry but that makes no sense.
PrideNeverDie
Profile Joined November 2010
United States319 Posts
August 15 2011 14:01 GMT
#44
5 million dollars
no pause button so matches are decided by disconnects
If you want it bad enough you will find a way; If you don't, you will find an excuse
EtherealBlade
Profile Joined August 2010
660 Posts
August 15 2011 14:04 GMT
#45
Valve threw out 1 000 000 $ just to build some hype. They probably didn't intend to set a new trend.

Riot on the other hand is so nervous about DotA 2, they think throwing more money at a tournament means it'll make their game better. It's obvious DotA 2 will offer a better experience, and they don't realise it's not primarily the prizepool that matters but how well they organize the community.

While Blizzard hasn't been very active either, the SC2 community for example is very autonomous and built it's esports scene pretty much from the ground up, without 1 mil $ tournaments, and see, the competitive scene and it's followers' spirit are great.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 14:06:54
August 15 2011 14:04 GMT
#46
On August 15 2011 23:00 klops wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2011 22:58 Moosai wrote:
On August 15 2011 22:56 klops wrote:
Throw a 5 million dollar tournament.

Still don't have spectator support.

wat.

The LoL season 1 championship had about 250k people watching.


that has nothing to do with what i said. not to mention i know because i watched it.

i'm saying if they have as much money as we now think they do, where is a non 3rd party spectator mode?

They have a spectator mode, they used it for dreamhack.

On August 15 2011 23:01 Essbee wrote:
lol at people speaking about graphics. If anything, League of legends has the type of graphics where you can see what's going on compared to HoN for example. Imo LoL graphics are the best for all the games of this style (and all the games for that matter).

Seriously graphics making a game? Brood war? StarCraft 2 on low? LoL? Quake and CS 1.6? These are not games with ground-breaking graphics and still are the most popular. Graphics are for kids (or teens), no offense but veteran gamers knows that graphics doesn't matter. It's all about the gameplay. I seriously never played a bad game and pretend to have fun just because of the graphics. Sorry but that makes no sense.

Speaking of popular games, you might want to include WoW as that one too has poor graphics

On August 15 2011 23:04 Muki wrote:
Valve threw out 1 000 000 $ just to build some hype. They probably didn't intend to set a new trend.

Riot on the other hand is so nervous about DotA 2, they think throwing more money at a tournament means it'll make their game better. It's obvious DotA 2 will offer a better experience, and they don't realise it's not primarily the prizepool that matters but how well they organize the community.

While Blizzard hasn't been very active either, the SC2 community for example is very autonomous and built it's esports scene pretty much from the ground up, without 1 mil $ tournaments, and see, the competitive scene and it's followers' spirit are great.
HoN is the one that should be nervous. I really doubt Riot just suddenly becomes nervous of DotA2 like that, they're of the same genre but completely different games, I really doubt DotA2 will appeal to casuals as much.
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Ryhn
Profile Joined February 2010
United States509 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 14:06:51
August 15 2011 14:05 GMT
#47
What the guys griping about the graphics really mean is that the find the aesthetic of the game displeasing.

They don't like the style.

Brood War has horrible graphics, but a great aesthetic -- for example.
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Grimjaw
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
178 Posts
August 15 2011 14:08 GMT
#48
Riot can throw money to the game, yet their game is still rather broken internally as well as from an eSports perspective. Lack of a reliable spectator mode or replays is pretty horrendous, especially for how long the game has been out and been how much complaining there has been. Dota 2 has already leveraged LoL's incompetency in that department and will shoot ahead in the overall competitive market.

Of course, LoL will still retain its massive player base for the most part since it's free, comfortable, and casually fun. It will just be a different game than Dota 2.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14187 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 14:17:28
August 15 2011 14:09 GMT
#49
On August 15 2011 22:37 Senx wrote:
Silly people thinking valve were actually going to outdo riot games in the esport department.. I dont think people realize how much spare money this company has to throw around.

GG no re valve.


you mean the ammount of money that activision has to throw around.

On August 15 2011 23:01 PrideNeverDie wrote:
5 million dollars
no pause button so matches are decided by disconnects


Because people can't recondite at all. There was one match maybe that was decided by a disconnect at the season 1 championship. Don't bash and entire game for a feature that is completely short sighted like that.

A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES51132 Posts
August 15 2011 14:10 GMT
#50
On August 15 2011 23:05 Ryhn wrote:
What the guys griping about the graphics really mean is that the find the aesthetic of the game displeasing.

They don't like the style.

Brood War has horrible graphics, but a great aesthetic -- for example.


I honestly doubt thats what they are trying to say.
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Eleaven
Profile Joined September 2010
772 Posts
August 15 2011 14:12 GMT
#51
On August 15 2011 23:01 Essbee wrote:
lol at people speaking about graphics. If anything, League of legends has the type of graphics where you can see what's going on compared to HoN for example. Imo LoL graphics are the best for all the games of this style (and all the games for that matter).

Seriously graphics making a game? Brood war? StarCraft 2 on low? LoL? Quake and CS 1.6? These are not games with ground-breaking graphics and still are the most popular. Graphics are for kids (or teens), no offense but veteran gamers knows that graphics doesn't matter. It's all about the gameplay. I seriously never played a bad game and pretend to have fun just because of the graphics. Sorry but that makes no sense.



Agree with you quite a bit.

I tried out lol the other day, and whilst i still dont really like the moba gameplay in general, the graphics are very "clean" there's no extraneous shit, so its very easy to see what is going on.
Xplitcit
Profile Joined October 2010
United States419 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 14:16:54
August 15 2011 14:15 GMT
#52
Lol most people don't realize that the prize money won in these tourney are divided between 5 people. So whatever might seems to be a lot, it's evenly distributed among 5 people. If there was a starcraft tourny for 1 million, then the winner would not have to play for the rest of his/her life. Who the hell here want to see Flash play for 1 tourny and quit?
It aint easy being crazy
520
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2822 Posts
August 15 2011 14:16 GMT
#53
CLG, Fnatic, SK, aAa, TSM and the like must be super happy about this.
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Jakkerr
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2549 Posts
August 15 2011 14:17 GMT
#54
I don't think Riot should be scared of Dota2 at all.
The game is probably gonna cost ~$50USD, I dunno about you guys but I'm not gonna pay that money for a MOBA game, we all saw what happened to HoN who pretty much did the same.
Also the leaked screenshots of Dota2 don't look impressive at all.
But i'll draw my conclusions after the tourney this week.
Cevari
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland74 Posts
August 15 2011 14:19 GMT
#55
I'm curious, does LoL have any kind of tournament scene outside these events directly sponsored by the developer and if it does what kind of money moves in those tournaments? Just wondering because despite how enormous $5 million in prizes is, it's not actually in a different scale of magnitude when compared to the entire sc2 competetive scene since release. A very fast guesstimate derived from sc2earnings.com would put the total prize money distributed in sc2 competetions over this past year and a bit at somewhere around $2 million. And there's no reason to believe that figure won't go higher this coming year imo.

The sc2 scene is just extremely different in structure. I expect Riot to be organising more events than in the past but it feels like they're still keeping the numbers relatively low, so what I see happening is a lot more centralised scene with the top teams competing at pretty much every event, instead of the extremely decentralised sc2 scene. Whether this is a good or bad thing is up for debate, though for the spectator it's probably a good thing since it limits tournament overflow and creates storylines that are relatively easy to keep track of. From a business point of view I can't imagine it's a good thing the entire scene is sustained by the developer though. Afaik Blizzard accounts for a fairly marginal piece of the sc2 prize money pie at least for now, with almost all of the money coming from sponsors. This seems the better option to me.
LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-15 14:35:43
August 15 2011 14:19 GMT
#56
Hopefully, Valve's not done yet. lol

Good for LoL to have a huge prize pool, but DOTA2 needs long term tournament funding from Valve too.
Looky
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1608 Posts
August 15 2011 14:22 GMT
#57
all pro dota players pick this game up take the money and go back to playing dota2. ez. even one of the best hon players got ranked 1 on solo ladder for playing it only a month.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
August 15 2011 14:24 GMT
#58
Why isn't this in the LoL forum?

This makes me so happy ;3
In the woods, there lurks..
Jswizzy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States791 Posts
August 15 2011 14:25 GMT
#59
On August 15 2011 23:17 Jakkerr wrote:
I don't think Riot should be scared of Dota2 at all.
The game is probably gonna cost ~$50USD, I dunno about you guys but I'm not gonna pay that money for a MOBA game, we all saw what happened to HoN who pretty much did the same.
Also the leaked screenshots of Dota2 don't look impressive at all.
But i'll draw my conclusions after the tourney this week.

I rather pay once for all the content then be nickled and dimed for characters and xp/ip boost.
I always try to give a sensitive, reasoned answer. This is usually awkward, time consuming and pointless.
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
August 15 2011 14:26 GMT
#60
On August 15 2011 23:19 Cevari wrote:
I'm curious, does LoL have any kind of tournament scene outside these events directly sponsored by the developer and if it does what kind of money moves in those tournaments? Just wondering because despite how enormous $5 million in prizes is, it's not actually in a different scale of magnitude when compared to the entire sc2 competetive scene since release. A very fast guesstimate derived from sc2earnings.com would put the total prize money distributed in sc2 competetions over this past year and a bit at somewhere around $2 million. And there's no reason to believe that figure won't go higher this coming year imo.

The sc2 scene is just extremely different in structure. I expect Riot to be organising more events than in the past but it feels like they're still keeping the numbers relatively low, so what I see happening is a lot more centralised scene with the top teams competing at pretty much every event, instead of the extremely decentralised sc2 scene. Whether this is a good or bad thing is up for debate, though for the spectator it's probably a good thing since it limits tournament overflow and creates storylines that are relatively easy to keep track of. From a business point of view I can't imagine it's a good thing the entire scene is sustained by the developer though. Afaik Blizzard accounts for a fairly marginal piece of the sc2 prize money pie at least for now, with almost all of the money coming from sponsors. This seems the better option to me.


ESL runs quite consistantly tournaments and cups, MLG will also be starting with LoL at Raleigh.

There is a LoL scene, its just poorly covered, we also have no good commentators like SC2 has.
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