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Why does every thread that mentions LoL NEED to turn into a LoL vs HoN vs Dota2 thread? Seriously, cut it out.
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On August 17 2011 08:16 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 08:13 robertdinh wrote:On August 17 2011 08:01 Lanzoma wrote: ITT: Appeal to Authority Fallacy
Also known as: I'm pulling rank on you so I'm right / My e-peen is bigger than yours / I'm royalty and you're a peasant It's just silly how players from games always want their game to be glorified as perfect in all ways. LoL is not Dota, they both have their strengths and weaknesses, in the realm of teamwork LoL wins. In the realm of personal glory, dota wins. Only, that's not factual either. I'm fine with conceding, "They both have their own merits" but one being more about teamwork is still something I don't quite see.
That's fine, not everyone sees things for what they are.
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Yeah, like how you can't see that your opinion is not a fact. :p
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On August 17 2011 08:21 Lanzoma wrote: Yeah, like how you can't see that your opinion is not a fact. :p
Or how some opinions end up being the same as fact. Sorta like someone had the opinion that the earth wasn't cube shaped.
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On August 17 2011 08:18 robertdinh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 08:16 Mordiford wrote:On August 17 2011 08:13 robertdinh wrote:On August 17 2011 08:01 Lanzoma wrote: ITT: Appeal to Authority Fallacy
Also known as: I'm pulling rank on you so I'm right / My e-peen is bigger than yours / I'm royalty and you're a peasant It's just silly how players from games always want their game to be glorified as perfect in all ways. LoL is not Dota, they both have their strengths and weaknesses, in the realm of teamwork LoL wins. In the realm of personal glory, dota wins. Only, that's not factual either. I'm fine with conceding, "They both have their own merits" but one being more about teamwork is still something I don't quite see. That's fine, not everyone sees things for what they are.
And Some people like to make shit up to give their game merits it doesn't have, like saying their game has more teamwork involved.
Are we really coming to this now? Couldn't we have quit at a difference of opinion instead of, "Hurr durr, I'm right, you're blind".
On August 17 2011 08:21 robertdinh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 08:21 Lanzoma wrote: Yeah, like how you can't see that your opinion is not a fact. :p Or how some opinions end up being the same as fact. Sorta like someone had the opinion that the earth wasn't cube shaped.
Are you fucking serious? So prove your point, or call it an opinion. It's not a fact because you know for suresies that it's true and if someone doesn't see it your way, they're obviously blind.
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On August 17 2011 08:23 Mordiford wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 08:18 robertdinh wrote:On August 17 2011 08:16 Mordiford wrote:On August 17 2011 08:13 robertdinh wrote:On August 17 2011 08:01 Lanzoma wrote: ITT: Appeal to Authority Fallacy
Also known as: I'm pulling rank on you so I'm right / My e-peen is bigger than yours / I'm royalty and you're a peasant It's just silly how players from games always want their game to be glorified as perfect in all ways. LoL is not Dota, they both have their strengths and weaknesses, in the realm of teamwork LoL wins. In the realm of personal glory, dota wins. Only, that's not factual either. I'm fine with conceding, "They both have their own merits" but one being more about teamwork is still something I don't quite see. That's fine, not everyone sees things for what they are. And Some people like to make shit up to give their game merits it doesn't have, like saying their game has more teamwork involved. Are we really coming to this now? Couldn't we have quit at a difference of opinion instead of, "Hurr durr, I'm right, you're blind".
Let me ask you this, what if I am right?
From my position how would you look to me then? With you believing it's a made up merit that lol has more teamwork involved. What if it actually does? Then what?
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On August 17 2011 08:24 robertdinh wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 08:23 Mordiford wrote:On August 17 2011 08:18 robertdinh wrote:On August 17 2011 08:16 Mordiford wrote:On August 17 2011 08:13 robertdinh wrote:On August 17 2011 08:01 Lanzoma wrote: ITT: Appeal to Authority Fallacy
Also known as: I'm pulling rank on you so I'm right / My e-peen is bigger than yours / I'm royalty and you're a peasant It's just silly how players from games always want their game to be glorified as perfect in all ways. LoL is not Dota, they both have their strengths and weaknesses, in the realm of teamwork LoL wins. In the realm of personal glory, dota wins. Only, that's not factual either. I'm fine with conceding, "They both have their own merits" but one being more about teamwork is still something I don't quite see. That's fine, not everyone sees things for what they are. And Some people like to make shit up to give their game merits it doesn't have, like saying their game has more teamwork involved. Are we really coming to this now? Couldn't we have quit at a difference of opinion instead of, "Hurr durr, I'm right, you're blind". Let me ask you this, what if I am right? From my position how would you look to me then? With you believing it's a made up merit that lol has more teamwork involved. What if it actually does? Then what?
Then I learn something new.
Why is this even a question? If you're right, I learn something new and I change my stance on the subject. However, I don't think you're right, and all you've done is say you're right to prove you're right.
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Aaah, good old circular logic.
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Obviously comparing apples to oranges is how we prove our points.
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All this hate over a prize for a tournament? This shit makes me sad as hell. I'm playing LoL slightly casually, but I'm thrilled to see good players play their best, and I'd imagine something like this would help that. It's like people are forgetting that spectators are the most important aspect of an E-sport, and what better way to gain spectators is there than to get more people play the game? Which Riot have succeeded at tremendously with a brilliant marketing model. I play LoL because it's a fun game. I watch competetive LoL because the game interests me and it's fun to watch. Can't we just stay at that ?
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Anyone watching the DOTA 2 games? I really hope they will take time to refine the game coz it looks like pre alfa release. Also lagging like crazy. I don't know but it's not making a pretty appearance so far.
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So, its a great thing to see they are not letting valve alone on this and it will help the competitive scene.
I still am sad however that they couldn't get a few thousands to pay CLG and TSM trips to germany. That would have been very helpful now.
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How will this tournament work? Will it be a single big tournament over a week, month or more? Or invitational?
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Probably spread across season 2.
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On August 17 2011 22:59 Craton wrote: Probably spread across season 2.
Let's say season 2 is gonna be 12 months.
Spread that 5 million out over 12 months and you can have a huge tournament every month. I think they might be aiming to:
1) Make tournaments consistent. Have a tournament go often but for generally lower cash prizes (10k winning team for example). This keeps the pro scene alive and gives those intrested a lot to talk about and often. It's important not to let the scene grow stale.
2) Create big tournaments. Massive marketing machines with million dollar cash prizes for the #1 team. These serve to excite the entire playerbase, draw in new viewers for future tournaments and draw in new players all together.
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On August 15 2011 22:41 Ryhn wrote: Valve: 1.6M~ for a three day invitational tournament
Riot: 5.0M~ for a 365 day worldwide season, spanning multiple tournaments.
I think Valve still has a record, guys. Only if they keep doing tournaments. 1 tournament isn't that much!
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