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Demidyne
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States110 Posts
September 23 2011 12:11 GMT
#341
AP casters are fairly week but I think theres a bit of exception, kass has lots of mobilty, I did a lot of games as Leblanc today. I think as we see roles and actual strats develop there will be places for an AP nuker with the power of LB, the spammability of a Cass. based on the 6-7 games I got in today I think playing a nuker you need to move between the speed boost points constantly and shoot around to cap/defend points and keep stormshield buff as much as possible
He saw how civilized men behave, he never forgot and he never forgave.
SouL_sc2
Profile Joined September 2010
United States90 Posts
September 23 2011 12:14 GMT
#342
Im kinda disappointed by dominion...its seems imbalanced and tailored for *casuals*..you can play a team with all carry and win the game easily not much skill involved, at least it will get some realty bad people away from ranked with the elo reset LOL!
"More GG more skill"-Aleksey "White-Ra" Krupnyk
CROrens
Profile Joined May 2007
Croatia1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 12:30:54
September 23 2011 12:29 GMT
#343
i tried it out and it was fun, its MUCH more casual oriented, fast, short and you cant fail so they cant flame you :D . but i still prefer the classic setup and im kinda sad magma chamber got delayed cuz of the dominion

EDIT: and yea rammus is fricken OP here
There is no problem that cannot be solved by the use of high explosives. - Anonymous ......||......Hyuk fan! \o/
venage
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden65 Posts
September 23 2011 13:10 GMT
#344
On September 23 2011 21:14 SouL_sc2 wrote:
Im kinda disappointed by dominion...its seems imbalanced and tailored for *casuals*..you can play a team with all carry and win the game easily not much skill involved, at least it will get some realty bad people away from ranked with the elo reset LOL!


I wouldn't say its tailored for casuals its just casual friendly when you compare it to summoners rift since you don't get punished as hard if you make a minor mistake. Dominion still has complexity and depth its just not fully explored yet and I would cry my eyes out if it was since its only a couple of hours of open beta. All carry can work but you can still get item countered. And playing a carry with an all-in build will punish you if you ever decide to walk alone.

Honestly its just different from summoners rift and when you say stuff like "tailored for casuals" your making a direct comparison with summoners rift but if you look at other similar modes like AB in WoW, conquest in BF or domination it UT you'll see that the quest system is actually pretty clever as well as the mid buff and circular design as well as the fog being removed in the circle and towers - all these things ad depth outside of the standard capture and hold gameplay. You actually can't roam alone if the other team has a defending nuker at their points and holding points for as long as you can in 1v2 (or more) situations will help your team in their offensive pushes.

I would actually dare to say that dominion requires more teamplay and tactics then summoners rift and if not its at the very least way more reactive.
Sabin010
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1892 Posts
September 23 2011 13:22 GMT
#345
I was playing Domino last night while I was drinking some hard cider, and I figured out the mode is about mobility, sustain, and not needing too much mana. Nunu is a good choice with his eat minion hp regen, passive free spell, and imba slow. I lost with Urgot, but he can charge up 1/4 of a tear on the pad in the first minutes of the game. Tried Shaco, and found anybody with a built in flash is pretty good. Played a game with 3 smites on our team and won that because promoted minions are op. All in all its a fun mode, but I prefer to play summoner's rift.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 23 2011 13:55 GMT
#346
It's definitely fun, we took a basically assured loss (it was like 13-100) and came back and won 6-0. There is assuredly strategy to it, as long as you're smart. Back capping, drawing people away from towers, split pushing, getting turrets "low" then running away and coming back to cap in <1 second when it's clear... it can be pretty nice.

It's clear that there are certain characters that are better than others here. Oddly, though, it's not the same as SR. Obviously carries aren't as good, but some bruisers that aren't as good in SR (Blitz, Trynd, Rammus) are just stupidly good in DM.

I don't think we'll be seeing many DM tournaments, but I also don't think it's outside the realm of possibility.
It's your boy Guzma!
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 23 2011 14:33 GMT
#347
Any news if Dominion gonna be opened again today? ;-)
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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
September 23 2011 14:42 GMT
#348
On September 23 2011 21:14 SouL_sc2 wrote:
Im kinda disappointed by dominion...its seems imbalanced and tailored for *casuals*..you can play a team with all carry and win the game easily not much skill involved, at least it will get some realty bad people away from ranked with the elo reset LOL!

You could do that on SR too when it was released.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
September 23 2011 14:45 GMT
#349
On September 23 2011 23:33 EatMySpell wrote:
Any news if Dominion gonna be opened again today? ;-)


Do please update. Thanks to someone, I was able to play dominion on other servers.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 23 2011 15:03 GMT
#350
Dominion on EU-NE starting @ 18:00, means it will start in AN HOUR ! BE READY ;-)
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 23 2011 15:10 GMT
#351
On September 23 2011 21:14 SouL_sc2 wrote:
Im kinda disappointed by dominion...its seems imbalanced and tailored for *casuals*..you can play a team with all carry and win the game easily not much skill involved, at least it will get some realty bad people away from ranked with the elo reset LOL!


Honestly? Not really, since there's a lot of split-pushing style stuff going on. Carries work well in a group, but if I'm Jax/Akali/Riven capping a tower and a single AP or AD carry comes along to try and defend, I can kind of just shit all over them solo. The best counter to big roaming groups on that map is just to abandon the tower they're attacking and take the rest. Eventually 1 or 2 of them will split off, which is much easier to manage by yourself or with one teammate.
It's your boy Guzma!
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
September 23 2011 15:34 GMT
#352
On September 24 2011 00:03 EatMySpell wrote:
Dominion on EU-NE starting @ 18:00, means it will start in AN HOUR ! BE READY ;-)

Same for EU west. 1700 bst. which is 1800 cest.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 23 2011 16:03 GMT
#353
Dominion is UP :D
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
FakeSteve[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Valhalla18444 Posts
September 23 2011 16:10 GMT
#354
It's going to take a while before people develop actual strategies, that's all. we're going to see a different caste of dominant champions, but I don't think we'll see any inherent balance issues. yes, your favourite AP carry probably isn't the best choice (but mine is LOL), but there are a lot of other options, and champs with fringe kits like eve/veigar are going to see little resurgences on the map. it's fun!

i'm pretty sure with a stable team i could analyze the map and determine some close-to-optimal strategies
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mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-23 16:34:33
September 23 2011 16:33 GMT
#355
On September 23 2011 23:42 Eppa! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2011 21:14 SouL_sc2 wrote:
Im kinda disappointed by dominion...its seems imbalanced and tailored for *casuals*..you can play a team with all carry and win the game easily not much skill involved, at least it will get some realty bad people away from ranked with the elo reset LOL!

You could do that on SR too when it was released.

The full map isn't revealed on SR and you don't get a shitton on money by not doing anything. Dominion is fun but it should absolutely not be seen as anything close to an online competitive game, because there is little to no skill involved in it if you know the basics of video games. And even being terrible you can be useful, which makes no sense to me.

Good thing is playing normal or ranked while Dominion is active makes you play much more interesting games !
The legend of Darien lives on
Fawkes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada1935 Posts
September 23 2011 16:36 GMT
#356
The lack of wards piss me off.

Wouldn't it be part of a strat to place wards within the fog where we actually CANNOT see so we can react to backdooring more easily?
Taeyeon ~ Jennie ~ Seulgi ~ Irene @Fawkes711
freelander
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Hungary4707 Posts
September 23 2011 16:45 GMT
#357
i m playing distractor twitch l0l
running around shooting people, they cant capture anything
And all is illuminated.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
September 23 2011 16:47 GMT
#358
Wards would kinda fuck up the purpose of the game ;-)
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Attakijing
Profile Joined June 2011
United States693 Posts
September 23 2011 16:48 GMT
#359
I feel like dominion is basically just going to be my replacement for coop vs ai matches. i really doubt someone would care if you afk for a few minutes and it will give you your win of the day bonus faster. it also will help you test out new shit without having to worry about consequences.
daemir
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland8662 Posts
September 23 2011 17:04 GMT
#360
2nd game of dominion, a warwick cries his eyes out because I was *gasp* defending a node as heimer instead of roaming around getting killed. Apparently I should not hug my turrets so he could kill me >_>
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