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UniversalSnip
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
one round of the jungle will give you something like 60x2=120 for the buff creeps 35x2=70 for the big wolf and big wraith 30x2=60 for the golems 15x2=30 for the small wolves 10x7=70 for the small lizards and the small wraiths total = 350 gold (plus passive gold, plus smite bonus which is about 20 gold) over the span of like 4-5 minutes... that's like 3 creep waves (or about a minute and a half) worth of gold in lane... jungling is definitely not for champs that need to farm extremely hard | ||
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UniversalSnip
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
Can we just consider him low-tier now? | ||
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Jupiter.sKy
United States50 Posts
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R04R
United States1631 Posts
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EnrageD
Canada230 Posts
I found myself soloing top or in bottom lane. I'd run flat hp reds, mp5/lvl seals, and mp5/lvl glyphs, flat health quints, and 9-0-21. I'd open with regrowth pendant and 1 mana pot go E,Q,E,W then R>E>W>Q. I found myself NEVER EVER EVER having to b, solo top vs panth, not a poblem, bottom vs 2 range, not a problem. Regrowth pendant and tantrum passive would nullify any harass they could put on me, and after philo, i could pretty much spam E for CS whenever i felt the need, never hurting for mana (utility masteries and mp5/lvl seals are OP btw) keep in mind this was fairly low ELO. Philo is cheap now, it requires a bead insteand of a mekhi's yet it still gives the same mp5, my first item on lane amumu, and the 12 minutes it takes to pay itself off is well worth it, because i usually end up having it untill i need to sell it to buy my last item (usually a GA). Amumu's staying power in lanes with just a philo (and eventually catalyst) is pretty strong. TL,DR; Amumu is a viable lane champion in my mind, you just need a philo.. On January 19 2011 16:19 R04R wrote: I know! You could try AP! Believe it or not.. i have 4 pentakills, 2 of which are from playing AP amumu (ROA, rylais, ROA, Abyssal, Lich Bane). and this was a long time ago, before they buffed some of his AP ratio's. (again, super low elo, before i even hit 30) | ||
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On January 21 2011 20:37 BluzMan wrote: Sry, didn't play LoL from about when Swain was the next champion to be released. Anything worth mentioning on top tier rotation? Did Garen become trash now? Whatever you do - don't ask Caller about Garen. He's surely not that great, brush is not your best friend anymore. Tank meta is gone, Sivir is one of best carries, Shaco is very good pick, phoenix Udyr is almost useless, though people go tiger Udyr nowadays. Jungle Eve used to be one of the most scary picks, don't know how she looks since last nerf though. I still see (on my elo) Pantheon banned quite often even though he now stuns for 0,000000000000005 sec and becaue hss-bot (i think hss buff happened post-Swain. Urgot isn't considered that shitty anymore, Anivia AOE rapes teams, Blitz is viable pick, Shen is considered the best tank - since Ramuus is #1 ban. WW is also very viable jungler. Also Malzahar has omfg-huge burst but you will rarely see him anymore since he has no cc. New zhonya items are powerful as well | ||
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
Just bought LeBlanc and went 17-0. Coincidence? Is she worth spending some real time to learn or does she go in the trash can of champions whom you play when you duo queue with your level 10 friend? | ||
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
Now she's just "another caster that is outshined" But then again I'm hardly in mid-high elo | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
On January 21 2011 22:27 BluzMan wrote: WoW. I can't even say what surprises me more - the absence of tank meta or Urgot isn't considered that shitty anymore. Just bought LeBlanc and went 17-0. Coincidence? Is she worth spending some real time to learn or does she go in the trash can of champions whom you play when you duo queue with your level 10 friend? LeBlanc has a pretty high skill ceiling with a pretty mild learning curve. A good LeBlanc is always welcome on a team and you really won't get bad-mouthed for playing her. She acts like a sedated Kassadin playing both support and assassin roles in a similar fashion. So yeah, she can fit on a team.. but with everyone else wanting to play a true AP carry like anivia or vlad your role is going to be diminished. | ||
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Dgiese
United States2687 Posts
On January 21 2011 22:52 Abenson wrote: But then again I'm hardly in mid-high elo Incorrect, you are on TL. Therefore, you are mid-high Elo. No exceptions. | ||
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Orpheos
United States1663 Posts
On January 21 2011 22:58 ghen wrote: LeBlanc has a pretty high skill ceiling with a pretty mild learning curve. A good LeBlanc is always welcome on a team and you really won't get bad-mouthed for playing her. She acts like a sedated Kassadin playing both support and assassin roles in a similar fashion. So yeah, she can fit on a team.. but with everyone else wanting to play a true AP carry like anivia or vlad your role is going to be diminished. does she actually hit hard enough to warrant not just playing kass over her? i mean with kass its easier to silence and easier to mass slow. im not sure how useful her binding is. i just feel like she doesnt hit extremely hard and she doesnt bring as much utility as some other casters so shes kinda just meh... | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
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BluzMan
Russian Federation4235 Posts
On January 21 2011 22:58 ghen wrote: LeBlanc has a pretty high skill ceiling with a pretty mild learning curve. A good LeBlanc is always welcome on a team and you really won't get bad-mouthed for playing her. She acts like a sedated Kassadin playing both support and assassin roles in a similar fashion. So yeah, she can fit on a team.. but with everyone else wanting to play a true AP carry like anivia or vlad your role is going to be diminished. I bought her because she resembles Kass to some extent, and I mained Kass before taking a break. From the initial impression, her burst damage is more than Kassadin's but her sustained damage is somewhat less (which should be pretty obvious since her ult has a cooldown). But she is fun, that is important. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
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Jokey665
United States138 Posts
On January 22 2011 22:56 Zato-1 wrote: Jungle change looks like it gave Amumu a one-way ticket to shit-tier. Rammus and Shen are head and shoulders above the rest of the pack when it comes to tanking, and we may start to see previously less conventional junglers like Yi, Trundle or Irelia jungling more often instead of champions like Udyr and 'mumu. Haven't had enough playtime since the patch hit to tell whether Sivir is still OP or not, but math suggests she still is. I know Trundle is supremely underplayed/underrated but when I jungle Trundle it's the hardest I've ever carried in this game by far (granted I'm not high elo). Jungle Trundle (and Trundle in general) is silly and more people should play him. | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
The only reason to play trundle is if you're tired of warwick or you are pissed he's not as fast in the jungle now. | ||
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Pigsquirrel
United States615 Posts
Before, the ult would light up and become available if a stealthed champ was near. Not any more. It stays greyed out until they decloak. Assuming it affects morganas, only seen this with Katarina so far. | ||
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