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Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
December 15 2010 07:11 GMT
#381
Doesn't work for me lol...
Hmmm...
Based on what I've read in the forums and etc.
Garen's dead D:
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 15 2010 07:12 GMT
#382
On December 15 2010 15:26 NeoIllusions wrote:
Doesn't work for me either. You sure it's not a company only wiki?

And Garen is so bad. I was hoping Smash was doom saying about Garen with all his fancy math but holy shit, I am so disappointed in Garen now. I might have to boot him out of my top 3 most played now.

math never lies. the only way this Garen could've been worth half a shit was if old DPS Garen was IMBA and we all know how long it took for Garen to shake that awful image...
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4343 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 19:20:13
December 15 2010 07:47 GMT
#383
Hm. Might be a company only link. I'll just copy the important stuff.

+ Show Spoiler +
DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP
So wait? I'm bad? =(
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 15 2010 08:09 GMT
#384
Wow you guys are hypocritic

I dont get why you think jungling is dead - gankle jungle with shaco / udyr / eve will become SUPER good against a 1v2 and then it will go back to the old 1v1 at top...

Unless I am wrong I dont see why 1v2 was made more impossible than last patcb
In the woods, there lurks..
L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
December 15 2010 08:43 GMT
#385
On December 15 2010 17:09 Iplaythings wrote:
Wow you guys are hypocritic

I dont get why you think jungling is dead - gankle jungle with shaco / udyr / eve will become SUPER good against a 1v2 and then it will go back to the old 1v1 at top...

Unless I am wrong I dont see why 1v2 was made more impossible than last patcb

Because the solo hero is going to get less experience in lane and dragon control will not give them experience.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 15 2010 08:58 GMT
#386
On December 15 2010 17:43 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 17:09 Iplaythings wrote:
Wow you guys are hypocritic

I dont get why you think jungling is dead - gankle jungle with shaco / udyr / eve will become SUPER good against a 1v2 and then it will go back to the old 1v1 at top...

Unless I am wrong I dont see why 1v2 was made more impossible than last patcb

Because the solo hero is going to get less experience in lane and dragon control will not give them experience.

Your analysis is wrong. An uncontested dragon is worth MORE now. It doesn't give you xp but it's worth more than two towers of gold. Jungle vs no jungle is still heavily imbalanced in favor of jungle. Ganks got stronger because flash dodge was removed and creep counting is dead. Also, generally you take a dragon after a successful gank so many people get exp anyway. Still, an uncontested dragon is a HUGE DEAL.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
December 15 2010 09:16 GMT
#387
So now that IE/LW got changed so much, what do you guys think should be the standard ranged carry build, like on MF?
It seems to me like the LW passive is so important, especially as it goes into late game but then you might seriously lack attackspeed..
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
December 15 2010 09:17 GMT
#388
MF never ran much of a standard carry build; LW suits her better now and so it mega-buffed her.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
December 15 2010 09:23 GMT
#389
Er, my bad, I never really played MF.. Like Trist or ashe then?
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 15 2010 09:38 GMT
#390
On December 15 2010 18:23 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Er, my bad, I never really played MF.. Like Trist or ashe then?


probably infinity edge phantom... ugh god


sorry

just threw up a little

infinity edge + phantom dancers
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 11:24:01
December 15 2010 10:08 GMT
#391
On December 15 2010 18:38 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 18:23 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Er, my bad, I never really played MF.. Like Trist or ashe then?


probably infinity edge phantom... ugh god


sorry

just threw up a little

infinity edge + phantom dancers

Is PD really going to be better than just holding a Recurve Bow?

I'm having a hard time justifying paying 2k more for 5% AS, 30% crit, and some situational movespeed.

Also, this supposed "buff" to Tiger Stance is so hilariously poorly implemented. Apparently the AD value used by the Tiger active is only 1/3 of what it's supposed to be (meaning that it scales off 50% AD and does like 68 damage at level 1--totally worthless). On top of which, the old trick where you could gain the Tiger active proc, and then use it in another stance is gone--you have to be in Tiger Stance to make use of the Tiger active.
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L
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada4732 Posts
December 15 2010 11:27 GMT
#392
On December 15 2010 17:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 17:43 L wrote:
On December 15 2010 17:09 Iplaythings wrote:
Wow you guys are hypocritic

I dont get why you think jungling is dead - gankle jungle with shaco / udyr / eve will become SUPER good against a 1v2 and then it will go back to the old 1v1 at top...

Unless I am wrong I dont see why 1v2 was made more impossible than last patcb

Because the solo hero is going to get less experience in lane and dragon control will not give them experience.

Your analysis is wrong. An uncontested dragon is worth MORE now. It doesn't give you xp but it's worth more than two towers of gold. Jungle vs no jungle is still heavily imbalanced in favor of jungle. Ganks got stronger because flash dodge was removed and creep counting is dead. Also, generally you take a dragon after a successful gank so many people get exp anyway. Still, an uncontested dragon is a HUGE DEAL.

Okay. Next IH we'll run a GP/X lane against whomever you want to run top and toss a ward on dragon with the X carrying teleport.
The number you have dialed is out of porkchops.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
December 15 2010 12:05 GMT
#393
On December 15 2010 18:38 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 18:23 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Er, my bad, I never really played MF.. Like Trist or ashe then?


probably infinity edge phantom... ugh god


sorry

just threw up a little

infinity edge + phantom dancers

After the patch, I honestly see no reason to get a Phantom Dancer over double Zeal.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 19:16:14
December 15 2010 12:13 GMT
#394
On December 15 2010 16:47 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Hm. Might be a company only link. I'll just copy the important stuff.
DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP



Probably should ask before posting inter-company stuff on the web. Especially due to their stance on the test realms.
myopia
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2928 Posts
December 15 2010 16:09 GMT
#395
psyonic's gonna get himself fired after a week hahah
it's my first day
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
December 15 2010 16:31 GMT
#396
On December 15 2010 20:27 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 17:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On December 15 2010 17:43 L wrote:
On December 15 2010 17:09 Iplaythings wrote:
Wow you guys are hypocritic

I dont get why you think jungling is dead - gankle jungle with shaco / udyr / eve will become SUPER good against a 1v2 and then it will go back to the old 1v1 at top...

Unless I am wrong I dont see why 1v2 was made more impossible than last patcb

Because the solo hero is going to get less experience in lane and dragon control will not give them experience.

Your analysis is wrong. An uncontested dragon is worth MORE now. It doesn't give you xp but it's worth more than two towers of gold. Jungle vs no jungle is still heavily imbalanced in favor of jungle. Ganks got stronger because flash dodge was removed and creep counting is dead. Also, generally you take a dragon after a successful gank so many people get exp anyway. Still, an uncontested dragon is a HUGE DEAL.

Okay. Next IH we'll run a GP/X lane against whomever you want to run top and toss a ward on dragon with the X carrying teleport.

Why do you assume that if someone gets a lane vs GP, that people just stay in the bot lane and think "damn, tough lane top's got"

Is lane switches really unthinkable? And mentioning the GP example is pure BS, it wont happen that often and if it does then ban the damn pirate. Normally the solo wont get behind in levels, he just wont get as much as head, and the gold he lacks will be compensated for with drag free cus its like 20-25 worth of creep kills TO THE ENTIRE TEAM.
one creep gives around 22 gold (approx), new drag gives someone along 250 iirc.

its really hypocritcal to say that a free drag is worthless, 1k gold is alot even if spread out.
Besides the 2v1 will be painfully exposed to ganks from the jungle and you can even just take tele and a char who can put up a zoning fight 1v2. (Nida fx).
lower then down, go back, call for jungle gank, tele in and go double kill.

on another note I tried jungling with tiger stance first on udyr, and gonna try phoenix next and see how much better it is.
In the woods, there lurks..
Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
December 15 2010 16:31 GMT
#397
Poor psyonic, I hope they don't find out about this, 1 week employment would be suck
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-15 23:11:30
December 15 2010 16:37 GMT
#398
On December 15 2010 21:05 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 18:38 UniversalSnip wrote:
On December 15 2010 18:23 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Er, my bad, I never really played MF.. Like Trist or ashe then?


probably infinity edge phantom... ugh god


sorry

just threw up a little

infinity edge + phantom dancers

After the patch, I honestly see no reason to get a Phantom Dancer over double Zeal.


Phantom has basically the same cost efficiency as zeal now except you're paying about 35% more over base stats in return for twice as much movement speed bonus.

Zeal = base stats + you pay about 180 for 8% movement speed
Phantom = base stats + you pay about 250 for 15% movement speed

On December 15 2010 19:08 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 18:38 UniversalSnip wrote:
On December 15 2010 18:23 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Er, my bad, I never really played MF.. Like Trist or ashe then?


probably infinity edge phantom... ugh god


sorry

just threw up a little

infinity edge + phantom dancers

Is PD really going to be better than just holding a Recurve Bow?

I'm having a hard time justifying paying 2k more for 5% AS, 30% crit, and some situational movespeed.


Well, those are legitimately good stats
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
cascades
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore6122 Posts
December 15 2010 17:17 GMT
#399
You probably should quote quoting psyonic guys. So that he can edit his stuff out if needed.
HS: cascades#1595 || LoL: stoppin
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
December 15 2010 17:50 GMT
#400
The new chat font is so ugly

Is there a way to make it like...half its current size?
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