EPTHmmm...
Based on what I've read in the forums and etc.
Garen's dead D:
[Discussion] Patch Notes - Page 20
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
Hmmm... Based on what I've read in the forums and etc. Garen's dead D: | ||
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Mogwai
United States13274 Posts
On December 15 2010 15:26 NeoIllusions wrote: Doesn't work for me either. You sure it's not a company only wiki?  And Garen is so bad. I was hoping Smash was doom saying about Garen with all his fancy math but holy shit, I am so disappointed in Garen now. I might have to boot him out of my top 3 most played now. math never lies. the only way this Garen could've been worth half a shit was if old DPS Garen was IMBA and we all know how long it took for Garen to shake that awful image... | ||
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Psyonic_Reaver
United States4341 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
I dont get why you think jungling is dead - gankle jungle with shaco / udyr / eve will become SUPER good against a 1v2 and then it will go back to the old 1v1 at top... Unless I am wrong I dont see why 1v2 was made more impossible than last patcb | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On December 15 2010 17:09 Iplaythings wrote: Wow you guys are hypocritic I dont get why you think jungling is dead - gankle jungle with shaco / udyr / eve will become SUPER good against a 1v2 and then it will go back to the old 1v1 at top... Unless I am wrong I dont see why 1v2 was made more impossible than last patcb Because the solo hero is going to get less experience in lane and dragon control will not give them experience. | ||
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
10417 Posts
On December 15 2010 17:43 L wrote: Because the solo hero is going to get less experience in lane and dragon control will not give them experience. Your analysis is wrong. An uncontested dragon is worth MORE now. It doesn't give you xp but it's worth more than two towers of gold. Jungle vs no jungle is still heavily imbalanced in favor of jungle. Ganks got stronger because flash dodge was removed and creep counting is dead. Also, generally you take a dragon after a successful gank so many people get exp anyway. Still, an uncontested dragon is a HUGE DEAL. | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
It seems to me like the LW passive is so important, especially as it goes into late game but then you might seriously lack attackspeed.. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On December 15 2010 18:23 Xenocide_Knight wrote: Er, my bad, I never really played MF.. Like Trist or ashe then? probably infinity edge phantom... ugh god sorry just threw up a little infinity edge + phantom dancers | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 15 2010 18:38 UniversalSnip wrote: probably infinity edge phantom... ugh god sorry just threw up a little infinity edge + phantom dancers Is PD really going to be better than just holding a Recurve Bow? I'm having a hard time justifying paying 2k more for 5% AS, 30% crit, and some situational movespeed. Also, this supposed "buff" to Tiger Stance is so hilariously poorly implemented. Apparently the AD value used by the Tiger active is only 1/3 of what it's supposed to be (meaning that it scales off 50% AD and does like 68 damage at level 1--totally worthless). On top of which, the old trick where you could gain the Tiger active proc, and then use it in another stance is gone--you have to be in Tiger Stance to make use of the Tiger active. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On December 15 2010 17:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote: Your analysis is wrong. An uncontested dragon is worth MORE now. It doesn't give you xp but it's worth more than two towers of gold. Jungle vs no jungle is still heavily imbalanced in favor of jungle. Ganks got stronger because flash dodge was removed and creep counting is dead. Also, generally you take a dragon after a successful gank so many people get exp anyway. Still, an uncontested dragon is a HUGE DEAL. Okay. Next IH we'll run a GP/X lane against whomever you want to run top and toss a ward on dragon with the X carrying teleport. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On December 15 2010 18:38 UniversalSnip wrote: probably infinity edge phantom... ugh god sorry just threw up a little infinity edge + phantom dancers After the patch, I honestly see no reason to get a Phantom Dancer over double Zeal. | ||
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ghen
United States1356 Posts
On December 15 2010 16:47 Psyonic_Reaver wrote: Hm. Might be a company only link. I'll just copy the important stuff. DERP DERP DERP DERP DERP Probably should ask before posting inter-company stuff on the web. Especially due to their stance on the test realms. | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On December 15 2010 20:27 L wrote: Okay. Next IH we'll run a GP/X lane against whomever you want to run top and toss a ward on dragon with the X carrying teleport. Why do you assume that if someone gets a lane vs GP, that people just stay in the bot lane and think "damn, tough lane top's got" Is lane switches really unthinkable? And mentioning the GP example is pure BS, it wont happen that often and if it does then ban the damn pirate. Normally the solo wont get behind in levels, he just wont get as much as head, and the gold he lacks will be compensated for with drag free cus its like 20-25 worth of creep kills TO THE ENTIRE TEAM. one creep gives around 22 gold (approx), new drag gives someone along 250 iirc. its really hypocritcal to say that a free drag is worthless, 1k gold is alot even if spread out. Besides the 2v1 will be painfully exposed to ganks from the jungle and you can even just take tele and a char who can put up a zoning fight 1v2. (Nida fx). lower then down, go back, call for jungle gank, tele in and go double kill. on another note I tried jungling with tiger stance first on udyr, and gonna try phoenix next and see how much better it is. | ||
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Senx
Sweden5901 Posts
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UniversalSnip
9871 Posts
On December 15 2010 21:05 Shikyo wrote: After the patch, I honestly see no reason to get a Phantom Dancer over double Zeal. Phantom has basically the same cost efficiency as zeal now except you're paying about 35% more over base stats in return for twice as much movement speed bonus. Zeal = base stats + you pay about 180 for 8% movement speed Phantom = base stats + you pay about 250 for 15% movement speed On December 15 2010 19:08 TheYango wrote: Is PD really going to be better than just holding a Recurve Bow? I'm having a hard time justifying paying 2k more for 5% AS, 30% crit, and some situational movespeed. Well, those are legitimately good stats | ||
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cascades
Singapore6122 Posts
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LaNague
Germany9118 Posts
Is there a way to make it like...half its current size? | ||
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