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Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
December 15 2010 18:17 GMT
#401
On December 16 2010 02:50 LaNague wrote:
The new chat font is so ugly

Is there a way to make it like...half its current size?

I like the new font a lot but it is just a hair to big for me as well.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 15 2010 18:34 GMT
#402
there's an option to lower the size in the in-game options.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
December 15 2010 18:46 GMT
#403
On December 16 2010 03:34 Mogwai wrote:
there's an option to lower the size in the in-game options.

Where? I looked in the interface options and only saw the scaler for the hud size.
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
December 15 2010 18:48 GMT
#404
oh, that's what I used, what are you looking for?
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Scorcher2k
Profile Joined November 2009
United States802 Posts
December 15 2010 19:02 GMT
#405
Something to change only the size of the chat text. Not the entire HUD.
ghen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1356 Posts
December 15 2010 22:51 GMT
#406
On December 16 2010 04:02 Scorcher2k wrote:
Something to change only the size of the chat text. Not the entire HUD.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=129727&currentpage=1156#23115

Change only one piece of the hud (the chat box)
spinesheath
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany8679 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-16 17:45:49
December 16 2010 17:45 GMT
#407
* Seismic Shard cast range reduced to 625 from 700


Then why can't I Q an enemy lux that autoattacks me while I am rooted?

Somehow I have a feeling that half of the autoattack/spell ranges are off/bugged. Having similar issues with Sona and her Q vs autoattack range.
If you have a good reason to disagree with the above, please tell me. Thank you.
Awesomo
Profile Joined June 2010
Netherlands206 Posts
December 16 2010 18:32 GMT
#408
I went to the league of legends directory and found a file called chat.ini, among other things, it says:
;ChatX =436
;ChatY =-312
ChatX=825
ChatY=-157

and

Size=18


ill try to screw around in that later tonight.
I have an ice-cold beer, everything is possible.
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
December 16 2010 18:37 GMT
#409
Please do and share your findings, h8 the new font.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 00:13:47
December 17 2010 00:06 GMT
#410
On December 15 2010 17:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 17:43 L wrote:
On December 15 2010 17:09 Iplaythings wrote:
Wow you guys are hypocritic

I dont get why you think jungling is dead - gankle jungle with shaco / udyr / eve will become SUPER good against a 1v2 and then it will go back to the old 1v1 at top...

Unless I am wrong I dont see why 1v2 was made more impossible than last patcb

Because the solo hero is going to get less experience in lane and dragon control will not give them experience.

Your analysis is wrong. An uncontested dragon is worth MORE now. It doesn't give you xp but it's worth more than two towers of gold. Jungle vs no jungle is still heavily imbalanced in favor of jungle. Ganks got stronger because flash dodge was removed and creep counting is dead. Also, generally you take a dragon after a successful gank so many people get exp anyway. Still, an uncontested dragon is a HUGE DEAL.


so contest the dragon
top lane takes teleport, wards cost 90g
jungler can have all the buffs he wants, as i've said repeatedly, you can't gank a lane when your solo laner is level 1, because if he doesn't help, you're ganking 1v2 against two full health heroes, and if he does help, they just focus him down and even if you kill one you didn't help the lane

also consider that with the flash nerf, people might start taking exhaust/ignite more, which is going to fuck a jungle gank and potentially make it a countergank

also consider taking smite on a laning champ that isn't summoner reliant or appears to be a jungler (in my mind, someone like xin zhao sona or kassadin, who has good mobility without summoners, or is a support champ, or a jungler that can also lane well like xin/shen), contest/steal an initial buff, completely slowing down the jungler, then go back to lane to start zoning. now your jungle is a level or two behind and your solo is being zoned. your move?


of course this won't work in solo queue because people are too worried about their own stats (i.e. refusing to zone and instead pushing the lane for creeps, nullifying your efforts) but in a 5-man team with good communication and people knowing their roles (i.e. you buy the wards for the lane and dragon, let me have the last hits because i'm the carry) there is 0 chance that an effective zone setup will lose to a jungling team now
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
December 17 2010 06:41 GMT
#411
trololol psyonicreaver =(
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
December 17 2010 16:53 GMT
#412
On December 17 2010 09:06 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 17:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On December 15 2010 17:43 L wrote:
On December 15 2010 17:09 Iplaythings wrote:
Wow you guys are hypocritic

I dont get why you think jungling is dead - gankle jungle with shaco / udyr / eve will become SUPER good against a 1v2 and then it will go back to the old 1v1 at top...

Unless I am wrong I dont see why 1v2 was made more impossible than last patcb

Because the solo hero is going to get less experience in lane and dragon control will not give them experience.

Your analysis is wrong. An uncontested dragon is worth MORE now. It doesn't give you xp but it's worth more than two towers of gold. Jungle vs no jungle is still heavily imbalanced in favor of jungle. Ganks got stronger because flash dodge was removed and creep counting is dead. Also, generally you take a dragon after a successful gank so many people get exp anyway. Still, an uncontested dragon is a HUGE DEAL.


so contest the dragon
top lane takes teleport, wards cost 90g
jungler can have all the buffs he wants, as i've said repeatedly, you can't gank a lane when your solo laner is level 1, because if he doesn't help, you're ganking 1v2 against two full health heroes, and if he does help, they just focus him down and even if you kill one you didn't help the lane

also consider that with the flash nerf, people might start taking exhaust/ignite more, which is going to fuck a jungle gank and potentially make it a countergank

also consider taking smite on a laning champ that isn't summoner reliant or appears to be a jungler (in my mind, someone like xin zhao sona or kassadin, who has good mobility without summoners, or is a support champ, or a jungler that can also lane well like xin/shen), contest/steal an initial buff, completely slowing down the jungler, then go back to lane to start zoning. now your jungle is a level or two behind and your solo is being zoned. your move?


of course this won't work in solo queue because people are too worried about their own stats (i.e. refusing to zone and instead pushing the lane for creeps, nullifying your efforts) but in a 5-man team with good communication and people knowing their roles (i.e. you buy the wards for the lane and dragon, let me have the last hits because i'm the carry) there is 0 chance that an effective zone setup will lose to a jungling team now


If we assume 5-man teams with equally good communication and people knowing their roles there's a fair chance to beat a zone setup. The jungling team could do any of the following to mess with your plan:

  • Gank top early. This could easily devolve into level 1 team fights, but that's fun anyway so who cares.
  • Have top take teleport and join with mid for a 2v1 if there's a complete exp deny. If all the player from top does is absorb exp and harass it's not a big deal due to the exp changes. The uber exp deny duo top can't push because then the player teleports back and the deny is defeated by simple creep management. Anything else the duo does will result in antics and fun times mid and elsewhere.
  • Go euro style and use vision wards at dragon. The enemy can still teleport nearby, but assuming both teams are warding the jungler will have plenty of warning.


I'm not saying any of these are foolproof, but the full exp deny only seems 100% potent if the jungling team doesn't adapt. As long as the full exp deny remains uncommon it'll be effective simply by virtue of surprise. Were it to become popular an effective counter-strategy would be right behind it.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
TieN.nS)
Profile Joined August 2003
United States2131 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-17 17:30:16
December 17 2010 17:15 GMT
#413
There's a new option in the latest patch to flip the minimap to its rightful place on the left!!! So good~ Looks like they fixed the font too.

edit: ok nm font still same. t.t Too used to minimap on the right too now.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
December 17 2010 19:15 GMT
#414
On December 17 2010 09:06 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2010 17:58 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
On December 15 2010 17:43 L wrote:
On December 15 2010 17:09 Iplaythings wrote:
Wow you guys are hypocritic

I dont get why you think jungling is dead - gankle jungle with shaco / udyr / eve will become SUPER good against a 1v2 and then it will go back to the old 1v1 at top...

Unless I am wrong I dont see why 1v2 was made more impossible than last patcb

Because the solo hero is going to get less experience in lane and dragon control will not give them experience.

Your analysis is wrong. An uncontested dragon is worth MORE now. It doesn't give you xp but it's worth more than two towers of gold. Jungle vs no jungle is still heavily imbalanced in favor of jungle. Ganks got stronger because flash dodge was removed and creep counting is dead. Also, generally you take a dragon after a successful gank so many people get exp anyway. Still, an uncontested dragon is a HUGE DEAL.


so contest the dragon
top lane takes teleport, wards cost 90g
jungler can have all the buffs he wants, as i've said repeatedly, you can't gank a lane when your solo laner is level 1, because if he doesn't help, you're ganking 1v2 against two full health heroes, and if he does help, they just focus him down and even if you kill one you didn't help the lane

also consider that with the flash nerf, people might start taking exhaust/ignite more, which is going to fuck a jungle gank and potentially make it a countergank

also consider taking smite on a laning champ that isn't summoner reliant or appears to be a jungler (in my mind, someone like xin zhao sona or kassadin, who has good mobility without summoners, or is a support champ, or a jungler that can also lane well like xin/shen), contest/steal an initial buff, completely slowing down the jungler, then go back to lane to start zoning. now your jungle is a level or two behind and your solo is being zoned. your move?


of course this won't work in solo queue because people are too worried about their own stats (i.e. refusing to zone and instead pushing the lane for creeps, nullifying your efforts) but in a 5-man team with good communication and people knowing their roles (i.e. you buy the wards for the lane and dragon, let me have the last hits because i'm the carry) there is 0 chance that an effective zone setup will lose to a jungling team now

Wait, are you seriously trying to tell me that a team WITHOUT a jungler is better than a team WITH a jungler?

Cuz A) I haven't seen one of those in a LOOOOOONG time and B) when I'm the jungler vs that team I absolutely stomp them.
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
r33k
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Italy3402 Posts
December 17 2010 19:52 GMT
#415
Tbh it depends, if the team without a jungler has CV and the solo top people decide to take the tower at lv4 and roam then they should be fine. At least one copy of smite is compulsory, but they can put it on a character that isn't too summoner skill dependant. Basically what they are doing is delaying their jungler's first 1 and a half run and leaving the opponent solo top exposed without a tower, which can be beneficial for future ganks if both the opponent solos are squishies.

If 1 person in the nojungle team can open rejuv pendant+ward or boots+ward they can ward by the top brush and push/dive safely.

I still stand by the fact that a buff control is essential, but wards+smite can do that job.
Asdkmoga
Profile Joined May 2010
United States496 Posts
December 17 2010 22:11 GMT
#416
they....removed....innervating locket???? WWWTFF <////////////3 when did this shit happen?, probably several patches ago, but i play Udyr and Sona, like ffs
"Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, three times is enemy action and over 600 is clearly the work of an ancient Sumerian demon or some shit."
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
December 17 2010 22:20 GMT
#417
Happened this most recent patch ;|

Supposedly theyre taking it back to the drawing board to make it a solid support item?

Riot was countering the FotM of EVERYONE going locket visage and being unkillable unless you burst them down from 100% in one go
pfff
Profile Joined May 2004
Belgium1352 Posts
December 18 2010 01:02 GMT
#418
hehe, reminds me of the deny-xp-for-melees patch for dota a few years ago, everyone was complaining, but in the end it made the game ten times better. Way too many strats and heroes in the game were dogma/too good anyway, nice that they shake things up.
It ain’t no sin to be glad you’re alive
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 04:47:41
December 31 2010 04:46 GMT
#419
derp
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EnrageD
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada230 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-31 04:47:03
December 31 2010 04:46 GMT
#420
those patchnotes are fake, read the bottom.
+ Show Spoiler +
So I spent the last few days hoping for the new patch. And it was never announced probably because they are saving it for New Year's. This is my personal fantasy of what it should look like, but won't. Upvotes for wanting the same patch as me. I had to nerf and rebalance some of my personal favorites like Zilean for sake fairness.




Edit:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Groosalugg
Forgot Guardsman's Galoshes.
Oh yea, also those cdr boot things Sona wants really badly.

Edit: Forgot about the Zhonya's rework. Added it in.
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